Question on installed H&R coilovers on my Xi

TL · 11-02-2009, 02:55 PM

So i finally had my coilovers installed but the problem i'm having is the fronts are still higher than the rears. The fronts are set to the lowest setting and the rear is set to the highest but it's still not level.
Pics of the drop Here

i think the problem has to do with the fronts having that extra small spring 9see pic below in the blue box) for a softer ride. it came with 4 springs total (2 small ones called "tender spring" & 2 big ones.

Has anyone here not install the smaller helper springs?

JeffL · 11-03-2009, 06:32 AM

Those definitely do not go in the front. After seeing the installed picture I can say 100% when those were on my car those little spring things were not on the fronts.

Kevin@AKMotorwerk · 11-03-2009, 06:38 AM

those go in the back on the h&r kit! defintely installed wrong and is probably not too safe because your front springs dont have a solid bottom seat!

BRAISKI · 11-03-2009, 07:22 AM

Are you installing it alone or at a shop?

TL · 11-03-2009, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffL

Those definitely do not go in the front. After seeing the installed picture I can say 100% when those were on my car those little spring things were not on the fronts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexye92

those go in the back on the h&r kit! defintely installed wrong and is probably not too safe because your front springs dont have a solid bottom seat!

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRAISKI

Are you installing it alone or at a shop?

Yea they're definitely installed incorrectly...here's a pic of how they should be placed.....i thought they were color coded and placed the Big Red springs with the "helper" smaller springs together in the front and left the rear black springs alone.

yamazaho · 11-04-2009, 01:52 AM

I am surprised to see that the H&R front coils come without helper springs. My FKs have helper springs in all 4 corners.

Anyways, have you resolved the problem yet?

JeffL · 11-04-2009, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yamazaho

I am surprised to see that the H&R front coils come without helper springs. My FKs have helper springs in all 4 corners.

Anyways, have you resolved the problem yet?

KW's don't use them either.

TL · 11-04-2009, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yamazaho

I am surprised to see that the H&R front coils come without helper springs. My FKs have helper springs in all 4 corners.

Anyways, have you resolved the problem yet?

no not yet but it's been addressed, so hopefully soon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffL

KW's don't use them either.

yea KW's don't have helper/tender springs

ucdbiendog · 11-04-2009, 08:18 PM

noob question here, but what are "helper" springs used for? Seems like it would just be used to customize the spring rate/ride height, yeah?

TL · 11-05-2009, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ucdbiendog

noob question here, but what are "helper" springs used for? Seems like it would just be used to customize the spring rate/ride height, yeah?

from what i've heard "helper" springs or "tender" springs (what H&R calls them) are use to help dampen/absorb/cushion the ride to make it less harsh when you hit a bump/pothole. it does add about an inch or two to the ride height but it makes sense they should be for the rear.

johnwing12 · 11-06-2009, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL

Yea they're definitely installed incorrectly...here's a pic of how they should be placed.....i thought they were color coded and placed the Big Red springs with the "helper" smaller springs together in the front and left the rear black springs alone.

I am guessing this is a kits for the whole car. look pretty simple to install. How hard to install a set like this. Mine got some squeez noise. I guess I move too much legal paper at once one time.

TL · 11-06-2009, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnwing12

I am guessing this is a kits for the whole car. look pretty simple to install. How hard to install a set like this. Mine got some squeez noise. I guess I move too much legal paper at once one time.

yep, its the Street Perf. Coil Over. the install took 4 hours. the front was easier than the rear;it's the biggest PITA. you have to remove all your carpeting just to access the 2 rear bolt/screw. bmw don't make it easy to mess with the rear suspension.

yiboi · 01-15-2011, 11:55 PM

Did U Remove The Factory Rear Upper And Lower Spring Pads Before Installing The New H&r Components?

TL · 01-17-2011, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yiboi

Did U Remove The Factory Rear Upper And Lower Spring Pads Before Installing The New H&r Components?

hmm, not sure as it was 2 years ago....how do the padding look like? I can check my storage and see what i got left in the box of my stock suspension

yiboi · 01-18-2011, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL

hmm, not sure as it was 2 years ago....how do the padding look like? I can check my storage and see what i got left in the box of my stock suspension

1) the pads on the top and bottom of the spring.
2) the mechanic tell me that the lowest it can go on the rear, and i know that must be something wrong,and he told me that he follow the instruction.

TL · 01-21-2011, 08:52 PM

pretty much everything stock was removed and placed into the box for storage.

hmm that looks pretty high. are you sure he installed it like this

yiboi · 01-21-2011, 10:15 PM

i need to go other shop to check it out.

Ndx · 03-30-2012, 02:08 PM

Hey Guys,

I think The friction ring should be at the bottom not the top ...

Thx

11-02-2009, 02:55 PM	#1
TL Brigadier General 283 Rep 3,102 Posts Drives: Happy on H&R coil overs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Hub iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 335xi [1.00]	Installed H&R coilovers on my Xi So i finally had my coilovers installed but the problem i'm having is the fronts are still higher than the rears. The fronts are set to the lowest setting and the rear is set to the highest but it's still not level. Pics of the drop Here i think the problem has to do with the fronts having that extra small spring 9see pic below in the blue box) for a softer ride. it came with 4 springs total (2 small ones called "tender spring" & 2 big ones. Has anyone here not install the smaller helper springs? Attached Images __________________ 2008 E92 335xi ------->Links to my Mods: H&R Street Performance Coil Overs \|\| 19" Alufelgen CS7 \|\| Interior Swap: Black to Coral Red My Website \|\| My Flickr \|\| My Tumblr \|\| My Twitter\|\| My Facebook\|\| My 500px Last edited by TL; 11-06-2009 at 02:23 PM..
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

11-03-2009, 06:32 AM	#2
JeffL Major 35 Rep 1,202 Posts Drives: C63 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Massachusetts iTrader: (1)	Those definitely do not go in the front. After seeing the installed picture I can say 100% when those were on my car those little spring things were not on the fronts. __________________ no sig.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-03-2009, 06:38 AM	#3
Kevin@AKMotorwerk General 290 Rep 28,154 Posts Drives: THE GUY YOU LOVE TO HATE Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: hillsborough, nj iTrader: (1)	those go in the back on the h&r kit! defintely installed wrong and is probably not too safe because your front springs dont have a solid bottom seat!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-03-2009, 07:22 AM	#4
BRAISKI Colonel 135 Rep 2,517 Posts Drives: '11 335xi e92 M-Pak Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: GTA/KW, Canada iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 BMW 335xi [7.00]	Are you installing it alone or at a shop?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-04-2009, 01:52 AM	#6
yamazaho Wang D.D.S. 185 Rep 7,057 Posts Drives: 14' WRX, 15' W205 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (11) Garage List 2006 325i [7.76]	I am surprised to see that the H&R front coils come without helper springs. My FKs have helper springs in all 4 corners. Anyways, have you resolved the problem yet? __________________ Official Houston Chat Thread
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-04-2009, 08:18 PM	#9
ucdbiendog Captain 89 Rep 610 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi E90 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reno, NV iTrader: (0)	noob question here, but what are "helper" springs used for? Seems like it would just be used to customize the spring rate/ride height, yeah?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-15-2011, 11:55 PM	#13
yiboi Private First Class 9 Rep 151 Posts Drives: bmw E90 335xi Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: braintree ma iTrader: (0)	Did U Remove The Factory Rear Upper And Lower Spring Pads Before Installing The New H&r Components?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-21-2011, 08:52 PM	#16
TL Brigadier General 283 Rep 3,102 Posts Drives: Happy on H&R coil overs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Hub iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 335xi [1.00]	pretty much everything stock was removed and placed into the box for storage. hmm that looks pretty high. are you sure he installed it like this __________________ 2008 E92 335xi ------->Links to my Mods: H&R Street Performance Coil Overs \|\| 19" Alufelgen CS7 \|\| Interior Swap: Black to Coral Red My Website \|\| My Flickr \|\| My Tumblr \|\| My Twitter\|\| My Facebook\|\| My 500px
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-21-2011, 10:15 PM	#17
yiboi Private First Class 9 Rep 151 Posts Drives: bmw E90 335xi Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: braintree ma iTrader: (0)	i need to go other shop to check it out.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-30-2012, 02:08 PM	#18
Ndx Second Lieutenant 27 Rep 289 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: May 2011 Location: CA NY iTrader: (1)	Hey Guys, I think The friction ring should be at the bottom not the top ... Thx Last edited by Ndx; 03-30-2012 at 02:23 PM..
	Appreciate 0 Quote