A 2007 LCI?

CapnCook · 03-26-2015, 02:38 PM

Hi all,

My brother is in the market for an E91 and just sent me this link:

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=321703282837

It says a 2007 LCI with WTCC rims?

I know they're wrong about the alloys but is it an LCI or had it just had an LCI conversion?

I notice it's a CAT C so I'm assuming so, but I'd be pretty naffed off if I bought it then found out it was actually the older model with a facelift!

Can anyone confirm?

Ian122 · 03-26-2015, 02:45 PM

It's a pre-lci that has had a lci front end conversion. You can see the rear lights and wing mirrors are still pre-lci. If I had to guess I would say the front end was totalled (hence the cat c) and it was repaired using lci parts.

Jimmy-F46 M-sport · 03-26-2015, 02:47 PM

That's a pre-lci bud you can tell by the back lights 👍

CapnCook · 03-26-2015, 02:50 PM

Ahh true, I didn't notice the rears

I thought as much but I was doubting myself due to the CIC, start-stop, telematics, connected drive etc!

Looks like someone's gone all out on the rebuild! (Minus the rear lights :-p )

Thanks guys!

Digitalize · 03-26-2015, 03:00 PM

There's no iDrive on that car...

And WTCC? They're the pretty much standard M Sport MV3s.

I hate these kinds of adverts, ALL of this is standard:

Push Button Start
Dynamic brake control/ stability control/ traction control
Deluxe Dual Zone Climate Control with Air Conditioniong
Front/side airbags
Electrically Operated Windows (x4) and Mirrors
Parking sensors (rears only, which this has)
Exterior lighting pack with LED lights Under each door handle, light when locked or unlocked.
Auto lighting Coming/Leaving home function

Dodgy advert, or wrong car pictured etc, I'd avoid/assume it's a base model.

It's had the LCI radio and heater panel fitted, hopefully they've been coded to work with the Pre-LCI, the rest of the interior is Pre-LCI.

I'd hazard a guess that the car is practically base model personally. No chance you'll get those MPG figures either. 50mpg max extra urban. No idea what button he is talking about for economy.

nicktyler · 03-27-2015, 06:54 AM

AVOID!

So many holes can be picked in that advert. It is like a cullender!

dy63 · 03-27-2015, 07:02 AM

i hate these adverts too. i dont think this car cost 38k new with all of these extras? is he having a laugh the car has got feck all

all its had is LCI bonnet and bumper and lights which dont cost much.

avoid it mate.

CapnCook · 03-27-2015, 07:45 AM

You're absolutely right...No Nav!...God knows how I missed that!

I (politely) emailed the seller to let him know that the car isn't actually an LCI although he has stated "it's the newer LCI model" (and provided all the info relating to an LCI), nor does it have the WTCC alloys, I-Drive, Connected Drive or Telematics.

I said I'm just letting you know so that you don't end up with an "item not as described" case opened against you...

He replied:

"if they not stupid they should know it been conversion and over 100 message i had in last 4 days none of them saying that tihs car lci model coz they were knows"

Imagine driving 200 miles to go and collect this car and finding out its missing half the features you were expecting!

CapnCook · 03-27-2015, 07:47 AM

We should all ask him questions about the Nav system

nicktyler · 03-27-2015, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapnCook

He replied:

"if they not stupid they should know it been conversion and over 100 message i had in last 4 days none of them saying that tihs car lci model coz they were knows"

Imagine driving 200 miles to go and collect this car and finding out its missing half the features you were expecting!

Not only the drive etc but having to then deal with a completely illiterate moron.

dy63 · 03-27-2015, 09:46 AM

He felt the need to make up stuff and list 4x electric windows because there is not much spec at all to talk about.

richk84 · 03-27-2015, 09:48 AM

To be fair, anyone who buys this is probably as thick as the current owner so they will be in good company

essex_lad · 03-27-2015, 05:52 PM

Where it's probably had a front smash they have just put lci parts on it instead. May as well if your doing it I guess.

Jeff123 · 03-28-2015, 03:37 PM

My previous car was registered on virtually the same day as that! It was NOT an LCI, but it WAS the "efficient dynamics" model that seemed to arrive around the same time that the engine changed from 163 to 177 bhp.

Maybe the seller means that?

The bonnet is a strange one. It looks stone-chipped, so maybe the front end was replaced when the car was re-built. Those models in decent condition are fetching pretty good money these days, so if it was a write off, there must have been a bill in excess of c£7k to repair it.

If the OP is keen to bid on the car, ask for some details of the repair - there must be pictures, estimates, repair bills etc.

litany · 03-28-2015, 04:49 PM

Don't even look at...

dest · 03-28-2015, 04:56 PM

This is the original spec

Data for vehicle identification number: WBAVU52090A131584
Model description: 320d
Market: Europa
Type: VU52
E-Code: E91
Chassis: touring
Steering: rechts
Doors: 5
Engine: N47D20O0 - 2,00l (130kW)
Drive: Heckantrieb
Transmission: automatisch
Body Color: Titansilber Metallic (354)
Upholstery: Stoff Blue Shadow/alcant./anthrazit (ANAT)
Production date: 24.09.2007
Assembled in: München

Code Serienausstattung Standard Equipment
S321A
Exterieurumfänge in Wagenfarbe Exterior parts in vehicle color
S853A
Sprachversion englisch Language version English
Code Sonderausstattung Optional Equipment
S1CAA
Selektion COP relevanter Fahrzeuge Selection of COP relevant vehicles
S1CBA
CO2 Umfang CO2 package
S1CDA
Brake Energy Regeneration Brake Energy Regeneration
S205A
Automatikgetriebe Automatic transmission
S249A
Multifunktion für Lenkrad Multifunction f steering wheel
S2MFA
BMW LM Rad M Sternspeiche 193 BMW alloy wheel, M spider spoke 193
S2PAA
Radschraubensicherung Lug bolt retainer
S302A
Alarmanlage Alarm system
P337A
M Sportpaket M Sports package
S386A
Dachreling Roof railing
S423A
Fussmatten Velours Floor mats, velours
S428A
Warndreieck und Verbandstasche Warning triangle and first aid kit
S431A
Innenspiegel automatisch abblendend Interior mirror with automatic-dip
S441A
Raucherpaket Smoker package
S481A
Sportsitz Sports seat
S4MGA
Interieurleisten Alu glacier-silber Int. mouldings aluminium glacier-silver
S507A
Park Distance Control hinten (PDC) Park Distance Control (PDC), rear
S520A
Nebelscheinwerfer Fog lights
S534A
Klimaautomatik Automatic air conditioning
S540A
Geschwindigkeitsregelung Cruise control
S563A
Lichtpaket Light package
S663A
Radio BMW Professional Radio BMW Professional
S694A
Vorbereitung BMW 6 CD Wechsler Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer
S704A
M Sportfahrwerk M Sports suspension
S710A
M Lederlenkrad M leather steering wheel
S715A
M Aerodynamikpaket M Aerodynamics package
S760A
Hochglanz Shadow-Line High gloss shadow line
S775A
Dachhimmel anthrazit Headlining anthracite
L812A
Länderausführung England / Irland NATIONAL VERSION GREAT BRITAIN
S850A
Zusätzl. Tankfüllung Export Additional Export tank filling
S863A
Händlerverzeichnis Europa Retailer Directory Europe
S877A
Entfall Überkreuzbedienung Delete cross-pattern operation
S880A
Bordliteratur englisch On-board vehicle literature English
S8S2A
Codierung Alarmsignal Coding alarm signal
S8S3A
Automatische Verriegelung beim Anfahren Automatic locking when driving off
S8SMA
Fahrgestellnummer von aussen sichtbar Car ident. number visible from outside
S8SPA
Steuerung COP Control unit COP

CapnCook · 03-29-2015, 04:12 AM

Thanks guys, don't worry we will not be pursuing this car,

My brother works in accident repair so ideally he's looking for one with some light damage (and/or an SE) so he can have a bit of a project

03-26-2015, 02:38 PM	#1
CapnCook Gibbon 26 Rep 192 Posts Drives: E91 LCI 320d Touring Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Wolverhampton, UK iTrader: (1)	A 2007 LCI? Hi all, My brother is in the market for an E91 and just sent me this link: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=321703282837 It says a 2007 LCI with WTCC rims? I know they're wrong about the alloys but is it an LCI or had it just had an LCI conversion? I notice it's a CAT C so I'm assuming so, but I'd be pretty naffed off if I bought it then found out it was actually the older model with a facelift! Can anyone confirm? __________________ Past Cars: Mini Cooper 1.6 / VX220 2.2 / Z4 3.0i / E46 320CD / E53 X5 3.0D
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Ian122 Private First Class 3 Rep 148 Posts Drives: N/A Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: N/A iTrader: (1)	It's a pre-lci that has had a lci front end conversion. You can see the rear lights and wing mirrors are still pre-lci. If I had to guess I would say the front end was totalled (hence the cat c) and it was repaired using lci parts.
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03-26-2015, 02:47 PM	#3
Jimmy-F46 M-sport First Lieutenant 64 Rep 397 Posts Drives: f46 220d msport, R56 Cooper s Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Ayrshire iTrader: (0)	That's a pre-lci bud you can tell by the back lights 👍
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CapnCook Gibbon 26 Rep 192 Posts Drives: E91 LCI 320d Touring Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Wolverhampton, UK iTrader: (1)	Ahh true, I didn't notice the rears I thought as much but I was doubting myself due to the CIC, start-stop, telematics, connected drive etc! Looks like someone's gone all out on the rebuild! (Minus the rear lights :-p ) Thanks guys!
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03-26-2015, 03:00 PM	#5
Digitalize Photographer 412 Rep 2,643 Posts Drives: 320D Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	There's no iDrive on that car... And WTCC? They're the pretty much standard M Sport MV3s. I hate these kinds of adverts, ALL of this is standard: Push Button Start Dynamic brake control/ stability control/ traction control Deluxe Dual Zone Climate Control with Air Conditioniong Front/side airbags Electrically Operated Windows (x4) and Mirrors Parking sensors (rears only, which this has) Exterior lighting pack with LED lights Under each door handle, light when locked or unlocked. Auto lighting Coming/Leaving home function Dodgy advert, or wrong car pictured etc, I'd avoid/assume it's a base model. It's had the LCI radio and heater panel fitted, hopefully they've been coded to work with the Pre-LCI, the rest of the interior is Pre-LCI. I'd hazard a guess that the car is practically base model personally. No chance you'll get those MPG figures either. 50mpg max extra urban. No idea what button he is talking about for economy.
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03-27-2015, 06:54 AM	#6
nicktyler Major 32 Rep 1,271 Posts Drives: 335i (sadly gone) Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Essex iTrader: (3) Garage List 2007 BMW E92 335i [0.00]	AVOID! So many holes can be picked in that advert. It is like a cullender!
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03-27-2015, 07:02 AM	#7
dy63 Colonel 160 Rep 2,399 Posts Drives: F30 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (1)	i hate these adverts too. i dont think this car cost 38k new with all of these extras? is he having a laugh the car has got feck all all its had is LCI bonnet and bumper and lights which dont cost much. avoid it mate.
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03-27-2015, 07:45 AM	#8
CapnCook Gibbon 26 Rep 192 Posts Drives: E91 LCI 320d Touring Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Wolverhampton, UK iTrader: (1)	You're absolutely right...No Nav!...God knows how I missed that! I (politely) emailed the seller to let him know that the car isn't actually an LCI although he has stated "it's the newer LCI model" (and provided all the info relating to an LCI), nor does it have the WTCC alloys, I-Drive, Connected Drive or Telematics. I said I'm just letting you know so that you don't end up with an "item not as described" case opened against you... He replied: "if they not stupid they should know it been conversion and over 100 message i had in last 4 days none of them saying that tihs car lci model coz they were knows" Imagine driving 200 miles to go and collect this car and finding out its missing half the features you were expecting! __________________ Past Cars: Mini Cooper 1.6 / VX220 2.2 / Z4 3.0i / E46 320CD / E53 X5 3.0D
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CapnCook Gibbon 26 Rep 192 Posts Drives: E91 LCI 320d Touring Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Wolverhampton, UK iTrader: (1)	We should all ask him questions about the Nav system __________________ Past Cars: Mini Cooper 1.6 / VX220 2.2 / Z4 3.0i / E46 320CD / E53 X5 3.0D
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dy63 Colonel 160 Rep 2,399 Posts Drives: F30 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (1)	He felt the need to make up stuff and list 4x electric windows because there is not much spec at all to talk about.
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03-27-2015, 09:48 AM	#12
richk84 Lieutenant Colonel 130 Rep 1,534 Posts Drives: e93 330i Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: All over iTrader: (0)	To be fair, anyone who buys this is probably as thick as the current owner so they will be in good company
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essex_lad Banned 106 Rep 1,562 Posts Drives: E92 Msport N53 Stage 2 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Essex iTrader: (0)	Where it's probably had a front smash they have just put lci parts on it instead. May as well if your doing it I guess.
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03-28-2015, 03:37 PM	#14
Jeff123 Jeff 318 Rep 1,451 Posts Drives: 330d M Sport x-drive F30 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yorkshire iTrader: (0)	My previous car was registered on virtually the same day as that! It was NOT an LCI, but it WAS the "efficient dynamics" model that seemed to arrive around the same time that the engine changed from 163 to 177 bhp. Maybe the seller means that? The bonnet is a strange one. It looks stone-chipped, so maybe the front end was replaced when the car was re-built. Those models in decent condition are fetching pretty good money these days, so if it was a write off, there must have been a bill in excess of c£7k to repair it. If the OP is keen to bid on the car, ask for some details of the repair - there must be pictures, estimates, repair bills etc.
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03-28-2015, 04:49 PM	#15
litany Banned 51 Rep 282 Posts Drives: e92 330dA M57NA Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Southampton iTrader: (5)	Don't even look at...
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03-28-2015, 04:56 PM	#16
dest Major 89 Rep 1,378 Posts Drives: LCI E91 320d M Sport Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Northamptonshire iTrader: (4)	This is the original spec Data for vehicle identification number: WBAVU52090A131584 Model description: 320d Market: Europa Type: VU52 E-Code: E91 Chassis: touring Steering: rechts Doors: 5 Engine: N47D20O0 - 2,00l (130kW) Drive: Heckantrieb Transmission: automatisch Body Color: Titansilber Metallic (354) Upholstery: Stoff Blue Shadow/alcant./anthrazit (ANAT) Production date: 24.09.2007 Assembled in: München Code Serienausstattung Standard Equipment S321A Exterieurumfänge in Wagenfarbe Exterior parts in vehicle color S853A Sprachversion englisch Language version English Code Sonderausstattung Optional Equipment S1CAA Selektion COP relevanter Fahrzeuge Selection of COP relevant vehicles S1CBA CO2 Umfang CO2 package S1CDA Brake Energy Regeneration Brake Energy Regeneration S205A Automatikgetriebe Automatic transmission S249A Multifunktion für Lenkrad Multifunction f steering wheel S2MFA BMW LM Rad M Sternspeiche 193 BMW alloy wheel, M spider spoke 193 S2PAA Radschraubensicherung Lug bolt retainer S302A Alarmanlage Alarm system P337A M Sportpaket M Sports package S386A Dachreling Roof railing S423A Fussmatten Velours Floor mats, velours S428A Warndreieck und Verbandstasche Warning triangle and first aid kit S431A Innenspiegel automatisch abblendend Interior mirror with automatic-dip S441A Raucherpaket Smoker package S481A Sportsitz Sports seat S4MGA Interieurleisten Alu glacier-silber Int. mouldings aluminium glacier-silver S507A Park Distance Control hinten (PDC) Park Distance Control (PDC), rear S520A Nebelscheinwerfer Fog lights S534A Klimaautomatik Automatic air conditioning S540A Geschwindigkeitsregelung Cruise control S563A Lichtpaket Light package S663A Radio BMW Professional Radio BMW Professional S694A Vorbereitung BMW 6 CD Wechsler Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer S704A M Sportfahrwerk M Sports suspension S710A M Lederlenkrad M leather steering wheel S715A M Aerodynamikpaket M Aerodynamics package S760A Hochglanz Shadow-Line High gloss shadow line S775A Dachhimmel anthrazit Headlining anthracite L812A Länderausführung England / Irland NATIONAL VERSION GREAT BRITAIN S850A Zusätzl. Tankfüllung Export Additional Export tank filling S863A Händlerverzeichnis Europa Retailer Directory Europe S877A Entfall Überkreuzbedienung Delete cross-pattern operation S880A Bordliteratur englisch On-board vehicle literature English S8S2A Codierung Alarmsignal Coding alarm signal S8S3A Automatische Verriegelung beim Anfahren Automatic locking when driving off S8SMA Fahrgestellnummer von aussen sichtbar Car ident. number visible from outside S8SPA Steuerung COP Control unit COP
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03-29-2015, 04:12 AM	#17
CapnCook Gibbon 26 Rep 192 Posts Drives: E91 LCI 320d Touring Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Wolverhampton, UK iTrader: (1)	Thanks guys, don't worry we will not be pursuing this car, My brother works in accident repair so ideally he's looking for one with some light damage (and/or an SE) so he can have a bit of a project
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