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      12-03-2018, 09:13 AM   #1
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what are your #'s XHP custom users

So as we all know XHP offers a customization license which allow the end user to modify ANY map before you flash it to the trans.

I have it custom license and have modified my maps to my personal likings, but i want to know what do you like! Lets share our trans tune style and user settings to see where we all stand and maybe we can all adjust within each other.

since we can't share performance tunes and the customization side is an open slide bar adjustment we aren't giving out any vendor secrets, so i don't think anything is wrong sharing open info.

Here my settings from the XHP flash settings section. Numbers in (*) represent setting number
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Tune XHP stage 3 V2.2

-Drive mode
_up shift= 1-2(+22) 2-3(+18) 3-4(+11) 4-5(+5) 5-6(-6)
_down shift=2-1(0) 3-2(0) 4-3(0) 5-4(-8) 6-5(-15)

-Sport mode
_up shift= 1-2(-4) 2-3(-12) 3-4(-15) 4-5(-20) 5-6(-24) ***changed 5-6 to -35 have not flashed yet. current -24 shifts to 6th at 70mph. it is very nice on the street and the 2-3 is smooth***
_down shift= unmodified (all 0)

-Max RPM kickdown inactive
_Drive= 1-2 (4900) 2-3 (4700) 3-4 (4500) 4-5 (4500) 5-6 (4400) **changing all to 4400 have not flashed yet**
_Sport= (same)
_Manual= (same)
-Max RPM kickdown active
_Drive = (same as above)
_Sport= (same as above)
_Manual= (same as above)

-kickdown
_Drive= yes
_Sport= yes
_Manual= no

-Throttle blips
2-1 (-5) 3-2 (+6) 4-3 (+6) 5-4 (+6) 6-5 (+6)

-shift speeds M-Mode
1-2 (-6) 2-3 (-6) 3-4 (-6) 4-5 (-6) 5-6 (-6) **don't know why I put at all -6?? I changed all to +10 but haven't flashed yet**
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it could get rather long so if you can post what you adjusted and what is not posted can be assumed it is unchanged.

there is some stuff i didn't change, but the gear shifting is on mine has been changed drastically and another thing i was able to do is get the car the shift to 6th in sport mode.

i think we could use this to better all of our info and experiment between with our trans tunes. the XHP customization license will not let us flash an invalid settings.

i have been real interested in modifying the stock tune! i just have not done it yet lol
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Woo awesome idea. I'll post up mine when I have access to my phone I use for trans tuning. I've refined it a couple times... have yet to load my newest update though. Also love that I can disable kickdown. Pretty sure I've got my shift hardness, max rpm, and throttle blips where I like them. Mostly experimenting with the D and DS shift points. Might be adjusting max rpm when I hit the dyno again with my BRR tune update . Wish we could change the start gear though in D and DS.... sucks having to be in m mode to get a proper launch.
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      12-03-2018, 12:14 PM   #3
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^^ this is what i am talking about!! i haven't messed with shift firmness or blips, but i have bumped my RPM up and down in a few areas... i will be making a few adjustments and move mine down.. i have 1-2 at 4900 and I don't like it.. going to try 4400 and try to keep the car in the higher torque range vs the higher HP.. i have gone to town on all my up and down shift points drive and sport mode.
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Edit: I was giving you a reference to go off of to help you set you max rpm (wot) shift points. So I found our transmission gear ratios then used this calculator (https://www.crawlpedia.com/rpm_gear_calculator.htm) to find rpm at a speed in a given gear... So (using my chart below) if I wanted to be around 3,100rpm when I shift to 4th, I found that shifting in 3rd at 4,100rpm dropped me right there. Keeping me in my peak hp range which is from 3,200-3,800 rpm going off my most recent dyno sheet. Hopefully I explained that better.

1st-4.17
2nd-2.34
3rd-1.52
4th-1.14
5th-0.87
6th-0.69
R-3.40

*-is where I set my max rpm to

1st @ 10mph: 1575rpm
1st @ 15mph: 2362rpm

2nd @ 15mph: 1326rpm
2nd @ 20mph: 1767rpm
2nd @ 25mph: 2209rpm
2nd @ 30mph: 2651rpm
2nd @ 35mph: 3093rpm
2nd @ 40mph: 3535rpm
2nd @ 45mph: 3977rpm
2nd @ 50mph: 4419rpm
*2nd @ 53.5mph: 4728rpm (3rd @ 53.5mph:3071rpm)

3rd @ 23mph: 1320rpm
3rd @ 30mph: 1722rpm
3rd @ 35mph: 2009rpm
3rd @ 40mph: 2296rpm
3rd @ 45mph: 2583rpm
3rd @ 50mph: 2870rpm
3rd @ 55mph: 3157rpm
3rd @ 60mph: 3444rpm
3rd @ 65mph: 3731rpm
*3rd @ 70mph: 4018rpm (4th @ 70mph: 3014rpm)
3rd @ 75mph: 4305rpm
3rd @ 80mph: 4592rpm
3rd @ 82.5mph: 4736rpm

4th @ 30mph: 1292rpm
4th @ 35mph: 1507rpm
4th @ 40mph: 1722rpm
4th @ 45mph: 1937rpm
4th @ 50mph: 2153rpm
4th @ 55mph: 2368rpm
4th @ 60mph: 2583rpm
4th @ 65mph: 2798rpm
4th @ 70mph: 3014rpm
4th @ 75mph: 3229rpm
4th @ 80mph: 3444rpm
4th @ 85mph: 3660rpm
4th @ 90mph: 3875rpm
*4th @ 95mph: 4090rpm (5th @ 95 mph:3121rpm)
4th @ 100mph: 4305rpm
4th @ 105mph: 4521rpm
4th @ 110mph: 4736rpm

5th @ 40mph: 1314rpm
5th @ 45mph: 1479rpm
5th @ 50mph: 1643rpm
5th @ 55mph: 1807rpm
5th @ 60mph: 1971rpm
5th @ 65mph: 2136rpm
5th @ 70mph: 2300rpm
5th @ 75mph: 2464rpm
5th @ 80mph: 2629rpm
5th @ 85mph: 2793rpm
5th @ 90mph: 2957rpm
5th @ 95mph: 3121rpm
5th @ 100mph: 3286rpm
5th @ 105mph: 3450rpm
5th @ 110mph: 3614rpm
5th @ 115mph: 3779rpm
5th @ 120mph: 3943rpm
*5th @ 125mph: 4107rpm (6th @ 125mph: 3257rpm)
5th @ 130mph: 4271rpm
5th @ 135mph: 4436rpm
5th @ 140mph: 4600rpm
5th @ 144mph: 4731rpm
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I updated post 1 with my current setup in XHP going through it I made a few adjustments, but I have not flashed the new tune yet.

RL18 im a little confused?? what are you using to make your adjustments?? im using the "flash settings" in XHP which requires the customization license.
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Yes sorry. Edited my post above ^^

Here's my customizations though (running same stage 3 v2.2 tune):

Shift map editor D mode: Ds:
Upshift-
1>2 (-40%) 1>2 (-40%)
2>3 (-15%) 2>3 (-25%)
3>4 (-5%) 3>4 (-20%)
4>5 (5%) 4>5 (-10%)
5>6 (10%) 5>6 (0%)

Downshift-
2>1 (-15%) 2>1 (-30%)
3>2 (-10%) 3>2 (-25%)
4>3 (-8%) 4>3 (-20%)
5>4 (-6%) 5>4 (-15%)
6>5 (-4%) 6>5 (-5%)


max rpm or wot shift points in all modes are:
1>2 3000
2>3 4800
3>4 4300
4>5 4200
5>6 4100

Kickdown in all modes: (OFF)
2nd at standstill in m-mode: (ON)

Throttle blips:
2>1 (-30%)
3>2 (-15%)
4>3 (-5%)
5>4 (10%)
6>5 (20%)

Shift speeds in m-mode
1>2 (-10%)
2>3 (-5%)
3>4 (5%)
4>5 (10%)
5>6 (13%)

Gear display- (actual gear)
Lockout 6th in s-mode- (ON)
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i see.. maybe i didn't read it fully when in first saw it.. i had a few things going on at work

lol makes since
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No worries! I cleaned it up a bit anyways.

I find it interesting that you increased your 1>2 shift time though and have your 1st max rpm at 4,900rpm. I hate being in first, it just kind of revs to quickly and goes nowhere being deleted now. I've found that getting into 2 or starting in 2nd makes for the quickest initial acceleration.
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in regular drive mode it up because i felt with light throttle it shifted out of first too early and dropped the too low..

the bump up in rpm makes the regular driving seem better..

i just flashed my changes this morning... i did not like the max RPM as high as it was. i changed it all to 4400. having it so high caused allowed the car to shift an extra gear down on the freeway and put the power band in the top area where the car was losing its useable range. after it would shift to the next gear it would start to scoot after that..

Seeing we are both running similar tunes for the DDE and TCU ill probably give your RPM range a try in a week or so
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Ahh I see. We both have different styles I guess. Nothing wrong with that though .

I hope they update it to allow us to start in 2nd in D and DS.

Cool! I'm going to try to get another dyno soon because my last dyno they did the pull in 3rd and I had two bad pressure converters so my turbos were acting weird so that might change my hp and tq curves a bit.
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my trans tune is setup like a mullet.. drive is professional and sport mode is party.. i like to have a nice calm and collective drive mode and if i need to pass or want a quick reaction in shifting i slap it over to sport mode.. i do this quite a bit lol



anyone else want to going the fun! lol
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I'm with you stoner.....why have the different modes if theyre gonna act the same.
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Haha I like that. I haven't really done much messing around with the shift points cause I never drive in those modes... first thing I do when I set off is put mine in M-mode. I just feel more connected with the car that way... if I want to weave through traffic I feel more controlled shifting where I want it to shift rather then letting the car do it for me. D-mode is basically gf mode cause I drive too aggressive . And Idk what DS is lol I just drove in DS once and hated it so I tried getting it close to D mode and I'm going to make adjustments from there to make it more sporty.
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My updated dyno sheet. Done in 4th gear
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Yes sorry. Edited my post above ^^

Here's my customizations though (running same stage 3 v2.2 tune):

Shift map editor D mode: Ds:
Upshift-
1>2 (-40%) 1>2 (-40%)
2>3 (-15%) 2>3 (-25%)
3>4 (-5%) 3>4 (-20%)
4>5 (5%) 4>5 (-10%)
5>6 (10%) 5>6 (0%)

Downshift-
2>1 (-15%) 2>1 (-30%)
3>2 (-10%) 3>2 (-25%)
4>3 (-8%) 4>3 (-20%)
5>4 (-6%) 5>4 (-15%)
6>5 (-4%) 6>5 (-5%)


max rpm or wot shift points in all modes are:
1>2 3000
2>3 4800
3>4 4300
4>5 4200
5>6 4100

Kickdown in all modes: (OFF)
2nd at standstill in m-mode: (ON)

Throttle blips:
2>1 (-30%)
3>2 (-15%)
4>3 (-5%)
5>4 (10%)
6>5 (20%)

Shift speeds in m-mode
1>2 (-10%)
2>3 (-5%)
3>4 (5%)
4>5 (10%)
5>6 (13%)

Gear display- (actual gear)
Lockout 6th in s-mode- (ON)
Thank you for this.
Just made the switch to customize as I was sick of the abnormal shifts in standard stg 3.
Totally changed the car.
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Thank you for this.
Just made the switch to customize as I was sick of the abnormal shifts in standard stg 3.
Totally changed the car.
No problem! I'll have to update mine again I think. I've tweaked a couple things. Mostly D mode and some fine tuning in M mode.

I'm also going to add my x5 parameters once I get the shifting characteristics where I want them.
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Thank you for this.
Just made the switch to customize as I was sick of the abnormal shifts in standard stg 3.
Totally changed the car.
No problem! I'll have to update mine again I think. I've tweaked a couple things. Mostly D mode and some fine tuning in M mode.

I'm also going to add my x5 parameters once I get the shifting characteristics where I want them.
Any update to this?
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Anyone got new settings for the V3 map for XHP? I honestly am fine with everything where it is but I need to make the 3rd to 2nd downshift less aggressive in sport mode. Thats honestly the only change I want to make but I'm not sure the best/logical way to do it without messing with any other gears if they seem fine now.
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