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      03-05-2014, 01:56 PM   #1
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1st smog, need advise

I am currently running full cat less right now
have to have my first smog done , can I just
put my stock exhaust on or do I have put the stock
down pipes on to? Ahh the joys of living In Cali, Please advise... Thx
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      03-05-2014, 02:08 PM   #2
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You'll most likely have to reinstall the stock downpipes and stock airbox to pass the visual inspection. You can try installing the BMS DP fix and follow the write-up to set readiness, but California is pretty strict on emissions.
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Thanks teeohdoor for feedback , my Injen intake I have on is Ca. carb legal, my jb4 has the o2 sim installed.
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you have to do your downpipes for sure - you need those cats. They don't care about "sound" but they do care what you're emission reading are and those cats will be the only thing to keep those reading down. You will fail without them. As for your intake, as long as you have the sticker showing it is carb legal, you will be fine.
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by any chance do you know if bms dci intakes are carb legal. I bought mines used and don't know if they are. I also live in so cal and would need smog check next year. Let me know where I can get the document for that if they are legal
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^ It's not legal unless if it comes with a CARB EO sticker.
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Ask to do a test run 1st. If it does not pass I wont count against you. I would put everything back as stock and it should pass.
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by any chance do you know if bms dci intakes are carb legal. I bought mines used and don't know if they are. I also live in so cal and would need smog check next year. Let me know where I can get the document for that if they are legal
I bought my 335i in Dec and, when I looked into it, the ONLY 335i intake that was CARB legal was the Injen. Nothing else. I chose NOT to buy the Injen or any other intake because of the marginal HP gains and/or the hassle dealing w/CARB rules.

FYI, no FMIC is CARB legal either and, if there are visible changes in the charge pipes, you could fail the visual inspection during a smog test because of that. I chose the 5" Mishimoto FMIC because it retained the use of the stock fittings and charge pipes, required no cutting and was otherwise indistinguishable from stock from above.

Other FMICs use the stock fittings as well but I chose the Mishimoto because it also came in black which makes it all but invisible behind the lower bumper grill. [/QUOTE]
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Ask to do a test run 1st. If it does not pass I wont count against you. I would put everything back as stock and it should pass.
Dont do that..... thats an easy way for the shop to make money off you... im a smog tech... lol you have to have cats, no questions about it, without them, no way in hell ur passing a visual test... our cars run pretty clean emission wise but it is what it is.

Heres a link that will give you the test history of any car:

http://www.bar.ca.gov/pubwebquery/vehicle/pubtstqry.aspx


P.s. i always wondered why people are so scared about smogs, its not like the dmv suspends your reg. Or anything like that, you dont get fined, and most places offer a free retest, so why, if your unsure, just get a smog?
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Stocks will have to go back on to pass. Clear and simple. My buddies never did though and I'm sure they went through a shady route but I never asked any questions.
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Thanks everyone for feedback, wanted to let everyone know that the Injen CAI is NOT CARB Appoved! I just got a email back from them b/c I could not find my sticker and they said(That intake is currently being carb approved and is in process pending approval. You should replace the intake with your stock air box for the smog check.) that's messed up b/c I got rid of my stock b/c I did not think I still need it. The whole reson I went with the freakn Injen is b/c they were the only one appoved
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Thanks everyone for feedback, wanted to let everyone know that the Injen CAI is NOT CARB Appoved! I just got a email back from them b/c I could not find my sticker and they said(That intake is currently being carb approved and is in process pending approval. You should replace the intake with your stock air box for the smog check.) that's messed up b/c I got rid of my stock b/c I did not think I still need it. The whole reson I went with the freakn Injen is b/c they were the only one appoved
Really?

I've seen pics of the InJen intake w/CARB stickers on them and the guys at ModBargins also told me that it was approved.

Injen lists this CARB EO#476-5 with Part SP1125 for the 2007-2009 335i. And, it's on CARB's list of approved InJen intakes BUT there's a confusing exclusion in the certification:

EO: D-476-5 View PDF
EO Date: 2009-08-31
Manufacturer Name: Injen Technology Co., LTD
Device: Cyborg Intake System
Device Type: Air Filter / Intake Modification

SP1125 2007-2009 BMW 335i 3.0L 6 Cyl. (excludes LEV2, SULEV, test group #7BMXV03.0N51 and #8BMXV03.0N51)

See: http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/de...eo/D-476-5.pdf

Some people are taking the exclusion to mean that all 335i's are excluded, but that makes no sense. Why would they list the 2007-2009 335i as eligible for the exemption and then add an exclusion that revokes the exemption from all 335i's at the same time? The only explanation seems to be that the exclusion applies only to 335i's w/a N51 engine, since "N51" is the only thing specifically noted in the wording of the exclusion and that the exclusion does not apply to 335i's w/a N54 engine. So, if you have a 2009 335i N54, my guess is that the person at InJen who told you that the SP1125 intake did NOT have CARB approval was mistaken.

In any event, given this confusion, I'm REALLY glad that I did not buy one. Good luck!
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      03-07-2014, 05:14 PM   #13
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Ya I had got mine from Mod Bargains a couple years ago and even the salesman at the time said it was legal. I just talked to Mod bargains today
and they said that it was never carb legal.
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my guess is that the person at InJen who told you that the SP1125 intake did NOT have CARB approval was mistaken.
I thought so too but to get any CARB info from injen you have to talk directly to there CARB dept, where I had to send a pic in with it installed and a pic of my Vin for them to authorize the CARB #.
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I thought so too but to get any CARB info from injen you have to talk directly to there CARB dept, where I had to send a pic in with it installed and a pic of my Vin for them to authorize the CARB #.
Yeah, I heard about this too which was actually the final reason why I chose not to bother getting the InJen DCI.

Did they ever give you an explanation why your car was subject to the "exclusion"?
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