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      05-27-2022, 02:06 PM   #67
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      05-27-2022, 02:11 PM   #68
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Stiff increases considering the loss of pretty much all incentives and discounts.

I didnít lease my 530e so Iíll check back in sometime in 2026 or 2027 and see if this stuff has right sized any.

Canít justify these jumps considering all other runaway price increases.
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      05-27-2022, 02:34 PM   #69
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guess i'm switching from xDrive to RWD lol
Ditto!! 😅🤣😅😩😩 Living in Florida I probably never needed it lol. Hopefully going to RWD doesn't change up how often/where you can drive in your city!!
Makes sense. I've got a RWD and never considered an xdrive. In Florida too so what is the point?
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      05-27-2022, 02:35 PM   #70
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Glad I got my g82 MY 22 when i did. My impulse buy feels a tad better lol
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Pretty bummed my g80 order went up 3700.
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Appears the price increase affected the non US built cars, as the Ä is approaching parity with the USD.
That doesn't make sense. As the US dollar gains strength as it has the last year, it buys more Euro's. US would be less likely to see an increase because of the strong dollar.
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guess i'm switching from xDrive to RWD lol
Ditto!! 😅🤣😅😩😩 Living in Florida I probably never needed it lol. Hopefully going to RWD doesn't change up how often/where you can drive in your city!!
Makes sense. I've got a RWD and never considered an xdrive. In Florida too so what is the point?
If you already have a non-xDrive M, the answer is not going to help your product satisfaction. But for everyone else, it pays to go through the countless threads or YouTube videos that have conclusively discussed this. TL;DR: only reason to get RWD is because you wanted a manual.
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Wonder what this means for the upcoming M2. Guessing it's gonna start somewhere around $61k or $62k but who knows
On the waitlist at my local dealership for the new M2. Curious to see what the dealer invoice and mark up price is going to be. Make sure you get everything in writing boys!
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Appears the price increase affected the non US built cars, as the € is approaching parity with the USD.
That doesn't make sense. As the US dollar gains strength as it has the last year, it buys more Euro's. US would be less likely to see an increase because of the strong dollar.
At the end of the day profits from BMW NA goes back over the Atlantic to BMW AG. Less euro's to AG's pockets when nearing parity, thus needs more USD.
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$3700 on the M3 and M4. Base G87 msrp is going over $60k.
64.9k is my guess
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Average markup for M3 x drive is $3000+ and people are willing to paying markup anyway, so bmw just charged it ahead of dealers lol
Oh, the dealers will still do their part...count on it!
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And with the prices increases, can we still expect some standard options to come back? Or will we have another year of "COVID spec'd" cars"?
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Don't forget BMW NA needs to pay for the next EV Arnold super bowl ad at $7 million plus.
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For those of us who are leasing MY 2022 M3/M4 models the car will probably now have a higher market residual value than the lease buy out. Personally, I would buy out the lease, sell to a third party and use the profit to offset the next lease purchase. I might start a new business to provide this liquid cash funding now that BMWFS is prohibiting 3rd party lease buyouts, but there is always a way around the system.
It's a gamble, you could possibly be upside down by lease end… especially if the market right sizes.
Either way it'll be interesting… I'm sticking with my current lease, residual and low miles was too good to pass up!
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[QUOTE=BigSky702;28952240]It's a gamble, you could possibly be upside down by lease endÖ especially if the market right sizes.
Either way it'll be interestingÖ I'm sticking with my current lease, residual and low miles was too good to pass up!


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Thats a toss up... Remember those that have leased already got hit as who is leasing a M3/M4 sub 1100 dollars without a massive downpayment these day?

Also bear in mind the LCI got tech updates so who knows... If a recession happens and rates interest jump up the supply vs demand discussion will flip.

Tons of inventory and no buyers.... With that values drop


Either way only thing to do is wait and see
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      05-27-2022, 04:41 PM   #82
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So glad I got my order in when I did. It seems like larger jump than normal. I guess that aligns with the current economy.
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At the end of the day profits from BMW NA goes back over the Atlantic to BMW AG. Less euro's to AG's pockets when nearing parity, thus needs more USD.
Again, no that's not correct. As the Euro falls and the dollar gets stronger, the dollar buys more Euro's, they get MORE euro's as we near parity.

Example: Euro is $1.30
BMW sells a car for 10,000 Euro. To get that same 10,000 Euro it must sell for $13,000.

As the Euro drops to say $1.07 which is where it is today, you must sell it for $10,700. Why is that? Because now your $13,000 buys 12,149 Euros.

So again, you are not correct. As the Euro falls and the dollar gains strength it results in more Euros. It's not the reason prices are going up.
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Outside of even supply and demand and inflation I imagine BMW had to spend substantial cash to adjust its supply chain out of Ukraine. It may also be paying more for what it got from Ukraine.

My understanding is a substantial set of the wiring harnesses that modern cars use were being made in Ukraine or at least the raw materials came from Ukraine.
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Commodity prices are up.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/24/meta...ts-record.html

It was a matter of time when BMW had to adjust prices. And of course BMW will not be the only one.
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It's a gamble, you could possibly be upside down by lease end… especially if the market right sizes.
Either way it'll be interesting… I'm sticking with my current lease, residual and low miles was too good to pass up!


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Thats a toss up... Remember those that have leased already got hit as who is leasing a M3/M4 sub 1100 dollars without a massive downpayment these day?

Also bear in mind the LCI got tech updates so who knows... If a recession happens and rates interest jump up the supply vs demand discussion will flip.

Tons of inventory and no buyers.... With that values drop


Either way only thing to do is wait and see
The average car is going to drop substantially in the next 18 months. People paying markups on Nissan Rogues or buying 4 year old crosstreks at MSRP will be in trouble. This coming recession is going to hit the less wealthy much, much harder. Already seeing it in gas prices and how it affects the average household.

On the other side, the guys leasing M cars, buying 911's etc. are going to be nowhere near as affected. I think we will see a big divergence in asset prices, where enthusiast cars will stay flat compared to cooking models. What that means for more regular new BMW models is hard to say, but inventories are still very low and will remain that way until at least mid 2023.
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It's a gamble, you could possibly be upside down by lease end… especially if the market right sizes.
Either way it'll be interesting… I'm sticking with my current lease, residual and low miles was too good to pass up!


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Thats a toss up... Remember those that have leased already got hit as who is leasing a M3/M4 sub 1100 dollars without a massive downpayment these day?

Also bear in mind the LCI got tech updates so who knows... If a recession happens and rates interest jump up the supply vs demand discussion will flip.

Tons of inventory and no buyers.... With that values drop


Either way only thing to do is wait and see
My '22 G83 adjusted cap was at $3,000 + below MRSP, '21 F95 adjusted cap was $1,000 below invoice Both lease's had loyalty credits and sales tax in SC is capped at $500.
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Makes sense. I've got a RWD and never considered an xdrive. In Florida too so what is the point?
When it rains you can use the power.
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