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      11-09-2018, 11:23 AM   #1453
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hello, I'm Italian, can you explain me what did you do to the rear for the Msport brakes?
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Ciao salpone, ma da dove sei precisamente? 😁

I'll answer in english so that others also can understand..



I have described everything pretty much detailed a few posts up with pics included.

To summarize once again:

- you have to buy/produce eccentrical bushings like the ones that you see on the pics (a few pages back I uploaded precise measurements), remove the original bushings and press the new ones in, it's pretty straightforward..

- buy e60 345mm rear brake discs (Zimmermann is the only one that has slotted ones)

- cut the dust shield with an angle grinder so that it fits your new bigger calipers (I used the description that someone also uploaded a few pages back)

- mount everything back just like any other stock caliper, bleed the system

- admire how much prettier your car is, and hit yourself over the head because you didn't do this conversion sooner


Don't forget: you won't be able to use 18" stock e9x wheels any more (only F30 or some aftermarket), and even for the stock 19" wheels you'll need a 10mm spacer on the rears..

If you get stuck hit me up on FB (Mihael Tutic)
So even with the 340 fronts and 2 piston rears OEM 17" and 18" with et35 or less wont fit? I already have 15mm spacers all around. I thought I saw some most pictures of these brakes pairs with OEM 17" et34 wheels? I'm just trying to figure out if the rear wheels will clear the calipers. If not I'll install them after winter since I have brand new Hakkas on the 285 style stocks. I test mounted the fronts and seems to clear the 340 calipers just fine.
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So even with the 340 fronts and 2 piston rears OEM 17" and 18" with et35 or less wont fit? I already have 15mm spacers all around. I thought I saw some most pictures of these brakes pairs with OEM 17" et34 wheels? I'm just trying to figure out if the rear wheels will clear the calipers. If not I'll install them after winter since I have brand new Hakkas on the 285 style stocks. I test mounted the fronts and seems to clear the 340 calipers just fine.
TBH I haven't tried to mount the rears in combination with 18" wheels, went directly to 19", but logic says that it should be just fine..

Pretty much positive that 17" wheels won't fit..

The 340mm fronts should be ok with 18", even on the 370mm is just a matter of 0.5mm
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So even with the 340 fronts and 2 piston rears OEM 17" and 18" with et35 or less wont fit? I already have 15mm spacers all around. I thought I saw some most pictures of these brakes pairs with OEM 17" et34 wheels? I'm just trying to figure out if the rear wheels will clear the calipers. If not I'll install them after winter since I have brand new Hakkas on the 285 style stocks. I test mounted the fronts and seems to clear the 340 calipers just fine.
TBH I haven't tried to mount the rears in combination with 18" wheels, went directly to 19", but logic says that it should be just fine..

Pretty much positive that 17" wheels won't fit..

The 340mm fronts should be ok with 18", even on the 370mm is just a matter of 0.5mm
Thanks, I know the 17s do work with 340 front. Maybe I'll just try one side this month to see what happens, I can always throw the stock caliper back on if it doesn't work. But potentially looks like another winter setup!
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So even with the 340 fronts and 2 piston rears OEM 17" and 18" with et35 or less wont fit? I already have 15mm spacers all around. I thought I saw some most pictures of these brakes pairs with OEM 17" et34 wheels? I'm just trying to figure out if the rear wheels will clear the calipers. If not I'll install them after winter since I have brand new Hakkas on the 285 style stocks. I test mounted the fronts and seems to clear the 340 calipers just fine.
TBH I haven't tried to mount the rears in combination with 18" wheels, went directly to 19", but logic says that it should be just fine..

Pretty much positive that 17" wheels won't fit..

The 340mm fronts should be ok with 18", even on the 370mm is just a matter of 0.5mm
Thanks, I know the 17s do work with 340 front. Maybe I'll just try one side this month to see what happens, I can always throw the stock caliper back on if it doesn't work. But potentially looks like another winter setup!
You don't have to disconnect your stock caliper only to try fitment, just zip tie it until you're over to release tension on the brake lines..

If it was me, I would survive this winter on the 17s that you already got, and huy some new 18" for next winter.

I live near the alps and do approximately 50k miles per year, never ever have I had a problem on snow, and I use my car to go snowboarding and everything.. 225/40/18 and 255/35/18 combo, so don't be skeptical about bigger winter tyres..

this year I'll try the 19", should be no difference at all.
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Ciao salpone, ma da dove sei precisamente? 😁

I'll answer in english so that others also can understand..



I have described everything pretty much detailed a few posts up with pics included.

To summarize once again:

- you have to buy/produce eccentrical bushings like the ones that you see on the pics (a few pages back I uploaded precise measurements), remove the original bushings and press the new ones in, it's pretty straightforward..

- buy e60 345mm rear brake discs (Zimmermann is the only one that has slotted ones)

- cut the dust shield with an angle grinder so that it fits your new bigger calipers (I used the description that someone also uploaded a few pages back)

- mount everything back just like any other stock caliper, bleed the system

- admire how much prettier your car is, and hit yourself over the head because you didn't do this conversion sooner


Don't forget: you won't be able to use 18" stock e9x wheels any more (only F30 or some aftermarket), and even for the stock 19" wheels you'll need a 10mm spacer on the rears..

If you get stuck hit me up on FB (Mihael Tutic)
hello I'm from Calabria
my car is a 320d so the rear wheel hub may be different from the 335.
I eltto someone has made changes to the E series but have only modified the bell for the handbrake and moved the caliper forward (or the disc) but never read that the caliper is higher with the bushings.
however, it is true with the E60 zimmerman's disk is better only that they do it only drilled and not with steps.
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I finally found some time and mounted the fronts, bedded them in and for now itīs a noticable difference, cannot wait to mount the rears this weekend.


4 calipers 1 cup





OEM 335d brakes vs. 370mm





Fronts mounted!





Someone asked before how to best remove the inserts from the rear calipers, well I found that the best way is to screw in a bolt (you can use old wheel bolts) and hammer it out, they come out pretty easily, I used a wooden hammer myself.








And the final result!
TBH, I kinda fell in love in my car all over again!







Expect more updates of how the rears fit on saturday!
Did you switch to m3 master cylinder as well? or just use stock master cylinder with a brake bleeding?
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I finally found some time and mounted the fronts, bedded them in and for now it´s a noticable difference, cannot wait to mount the rears this weekend.


4 calipers 1 cup





OEM 335d brakes vs. 370mm





Fronts mounted!





Someone asked before how to best remove the inserts from the rear calipers, well I found that the best way is to screw in a bolt (you can use old wheel bolts) and hammer it out, they come out pretty easily, I used a wooden hammer myself.








And the final result!
TBH, I kinda fell in love in my car all over again!







Expect more updates of how the rears fit on saturday!
Did you switch to m3 master cylinder as well? or just use stock master cylinder with a brake bleeding?
For the moment using it with stock master, when properly bleeded is not so dramatic as some described it, maybw not as progressive but still firm, I don't hate it..
Maybe it has something to do with the braided steel brake lines and Motul RBF fluid?!

But as I already bought it, I will probably do the swap in a couple of months together with the M3 steering rack..
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      11-15-2018, 11:06 PM   #1460
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I finally found some time and mounted the fronts, bedded them in and for now it´s a noticable difference, cannot wait to mount the rears this weekend.


4 calipers 1 cup

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/rpwgKdbz/20181025-141802.jpg[/IMG]



OEM 335d brakes vs. 370mm

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/Jh0cRfDk/20181025-143619.jpg[/IMG]



Fronts mounted!

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/nz61R3LQ/20181025-151800.jpg[/IMG]



Someone asked before how to best remove the inserts from the rear calipers, well I found that the best way is to screw in a bolt (you can use old wheel bolts) and hammer it out, they come out pretty easily, I used a wooden hammer myself.

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/5yLSZ8HK/20181025-163617.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/Jnyq5fRL/20181025-163949.jpg[/IMG]




And the final result!
TBH, I kinda fell in love in my car all over again!

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/nh0GbFzx/20181025-182907.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/6p9fm2Bz/20181025-182940.jpg[/IMG]



Expect more updates of how the rears fit on saturday!
Did you switch to m3 master cylinder as well? or just use stock master cylinder with a brake bleeding?
For the moment using it with stock master, when properly bleeded is not so dramatic as some described it, maybw not as progressive but still firm, I don't hate it..
Maybe it has something to do with the braided steel brake lines and Motul RBF fluid?!

But as I already bought it, I will probably do the swap in a couple of months together with the M3 steering rack..
Not a bad job to do the MS, 45 min tops. Just watch the adjustable brake light sensor on the inside of firewall by pedal, as I knocked it out of alignment with brake light staying on... so double check that before panel goes back on.
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I have a series E 92 but 320d
the problem I have at the rear wheel is:
- my handbrake drum has an internal diameter of 160mm, so with disc for series 3 I go well for the handbrake ............... ..... disk height is 66mm and it's not good because I have to bring the Msport plier out more, right?

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- not to put the Msport caliper forward, I have to mount the E60 series 5 disc, which has a disc height of 63mm and that's fine, but it has the 180mm handbrake drum, so my handbrake drum .... .do not brake.




what better solution?
. do I make a bush and do I make the E60 disc drum from 180 to 160 small?
- Do I take a danzas and take the caliper outwards and mount E9x disc?
thank you
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I have a series E 92 but 320d
the problem I have at the rear wheel is:
- my handbrake drum has an internal diameter of 160mm, so with disc for series 3 I go well for the handbrake ............... ..... disk height is 66mm and it's not good because I have to bring the Msport plier out more, right?

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/fyxNV8PZ/SGPhot...8-08-45-26.jpg[/img]



- not to put the Msport caliper forward, I have to mount the E60 series 5 disc, which has a disc height of 63mm and that's fine, but it has the 180mm handbrake drum, so my handbrake drum .... .do not brake.

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/wx0KGsdw/SGPhot...8-08-54-12.jpg[/img]


what better solution?
. do I make a bush and do I make the E60 disc drum from 180 to 160 small?
- Do I take a danzas and take the caliper outwards and mount E9x disc?
thank you
Thats an easy fix, I spaced them out by welding on new larger shoes. I did this to mine a long time ago. Look 10-15 pages back on this thread and you will see picture/link. If your offset is pretty small, you can leave it or use spacers like you said. Also better to upsize drum shoes, so you have more disc options come replacement time.
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Originally Posted by salpone View Post
I have a series E 92 but 320d
the problem I have at the rear wheel is:
- my handbrake drum has an internal diameter of 160mm, so with disc for series 3 I go well for the handbrake ............... ..... disk height is 66mm and it's not good because I have to bring the Msport plier out more, right?

[/url]



- not to put the Msport caliper forward, I have to mount the E60 series 5 disc, which has a disc height of 63mm and that's fine, but it has the 180mm handbrake drum, so my handbrake drum .... .do not brake.




what better solution?
. do I make a bush and do I make the E60 disc drum from 180 to 160 small?
- Do I take a danzas and take the caliper outwards and mount E9x disc?
thank you
As Seattlesquash said one post up..

Itīs actually easier to convert the handbrake shoes than to mill the caliper and practically destroy it for any other use than the e9x.
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