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      03-12-2018, 08:50 PM   #1
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I NEED Help Cloning an MSV80 DME

I have a 2007 328xi and I need to replace the MSV80 DME. I have been researching this but have not found the specific process or tools to clone my DME.

Any help/advice or even a good source to send it to be cloned would be much appreciated.

Many thanks!!
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      03-13-2018, 12:23 AM   #2
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      03-13-2018, 01:40 AM   #3
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Go to the coding subforum also look up Bimmergeeks.net

An Internet wide search never hurts.

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      03-13-2018, 02:19 PM   #4
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You can't clone MSV80. It's password protected, and the tri-core boot mode was disabled by BMW.
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      03-13-2018, 08:35 PM   #5
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So what are the options?
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      03-14-2018, 03:08 PM   #6
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I think your options are buy a virign DME, replace DME, CAS and Keys from a donor car, or realign the used DME to your CAS / Keys.
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      03-14-2018, 03:16 PM   #7
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you should be able to change the ISN in the CAS to match a donor DME. I believe that's how most people swap in a used DME.

Are you sure your DME is damaged beyond repair? What is wrong with it? I have only ever had one DME that was actually dead - for whatever reason it stopped powering up.
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      03-14-2018, 07:57 PM   #8
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My MSD80 crapped out last month and I sent it to get it repaired thru this website

https://n54dmerepair.com

It actually worked! Plugged it in last Thursday, changed all the plugs and coils, and it's been running great.

Much cheaper than upgrading to and coding an MSD81.
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      03-14-2018, 11:42 PM   #9
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Short history, I bought the car not running, supposedly a bad engine. Turned out to be a rocker arm failure that knocked the exhaust cam out of time and the engine just quit.

I replaced the head timed the cams with the appropriate tool and put everything back together. The engine started right up but had several misfires ... some to specific cylinders and a "random misfire" code. So I did the appropriate cylinder to cylinder coil swaps to verify it wasn't a bad coil(s). All of the coils check out, so here the interesting part, cylinder #1 wouldn't fire at all (coli was good). So we pulled the DME out and found bluish corrosion only around the 12 pins that go to the coils. We cleaned the connector and plug, put it back together, cleared the codes and fired it back up. The cylinder misfire codes moved to different cylinders except #1, that still had no spark. I did a continuity check from the DME wiring harness connector to each corresponding wire on the coil connector and had continuity at all 6 coli connectors. Next I pulled the cover off the DME and checked continuity between the connector on the DME and the corresponding solder joint on the circuit board, all had continuity except the connection for cylinder #1. So I soldered a wire on the circuit board for cyl#1 and made a temporary connection to the wiring harness bypassing the connector. Cylinder #1 fired but now different cylinders were misfiring. I suspect corrosion caused damage between the connector and circuit board/solder point.
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Sounds repairable to me - probably your best bet.
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you should be able to change the ISN in the CAS to match a donor DME. I believe that's how most people swap in a used DME.

Are you sure your DME is damaged beyond repair? What is wrong with it? I have only ever had one DME that was actually dead - for whatever reason it stopped powering up.

I have a donor DME and found a place to "clone it". So if you're saying change ISN in the CAS to match the donor, if I do that won't there be a mismatch with the VIN between the modules?

At this point a repair or clone will cost about same.

I appreciate everyone's help and advice!!
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      03-15-2018, 11:17 PM   #12
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Who is saying they can clone MSV80?

I still think a repair is your best bet.
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      03-16-2018, 10:15 AM   #13
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Check the link below, I just need to know if this is a valid service.


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well, he's "cloning" the program/data section (you could just do that with WinKFP, there's nothing unique in there) but you can't write the AIF or ISN over OBD, or read the boot passwords, so it's not really a true "clone". They're basically doing what I said, they are going to have to write the ISN from the donor DME to the CAS. Which is fine, that works, but it's not a clone.

I would still consider having your original repaired, but that's up to you.
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Many thanks I Really Appreciate your feedback!!
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Not being real familiar with the whole process ... after the data transfer to the donor DME/CAS would there be any issues with any other modules, in other words would the car know the difference?

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      03-21-2018, 08:09 PM   #17
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So not much progress with anyone willing to repair my DME after I describe the problem. So it looks like a replacement is in order ... so I have a few questions for anyone that had their (MSV80) DME "cloned/replaced" successfully.

I have a donor and I'm curious what to expect if it's cloned?

-Will the car VIN transfer to the donor DME?
-Will both of my keys work after the DME/CAS alignment?
-Will any other modules need to be aligned and could there be any error codes if alignment is needed but not done?
-Will the car's original mileage transfer to the donor DME?

Am I missing anything?
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