[JRoldan79]

Hi i have a 2009 E92 all wheel drive with 80,000 miles and the dealer told me i need a transmission flush but BMW guarantee the life time of the oil up to 100k and they are charging me $572 to do it.... i was told that it is a sealed transmission that doesnt need to be service but so now is given me a red code for immediate service isnt this should be cover by the BMW not me havent to havent to pay for it... if any body has any suggestions please of what should i do about this

[BimmerNugget]

You should never do a transmission flush at this mileage. But yes, you do need a transmission fluid change. Big difference between the two.

Also $572 for a fluid change is a joke. Either DIY it or take it to an indy. About $150 for a drain and refill only or $400 for a drain, refill, replace transmission filter, replace transmission pan gasket.

I highly recommend doing all 3 at an indy for $400. If you DIY it, should cost about $80 for parts.

[mweisdorfer]

Originally Posted by JRoldan79

Hi i have a 2009 E92 all wheel drive with 80,000 miles and the dealer told me i need a transmission flush but BMW guarantee the life time of the oil up to 100k and they are charging me $572 to do it.... i was told that it is a sealed transmission that doesnt need to be service but so now is given me a red code for immediate service isnt this should be cover by the BMW not me havent to havent to pay for it... if any body has any suggestions please of what should i do about this

You can pull the return line from the trans to the trans cooler and have it drain into a bucket. You just drain and fill 3qts at a time until nothing but Red comes out. You'll probably need 12qts.

[ctuna]

By the way lifetime fluids mean the car lasts only 100k.
Lifetime fluids are a marketing ploy used be car company's to
push product.

Google Mike Miller BMW and download the old school maintenance schedule.

[JRoldan79]

thanks for the advice

[JRoldan79]

thanks

[Gamb1t]

Originally Posted by mweisdorfer

You can pull the return line from the trans to the trans cooler and have it drain into a bucket. You just drain and fill 3qts at a time until nothing but Red comes out. You'll probably need 12qts.

Now you got me curious... how do you do that? Any photos of this wondrous line?

[JRoldan79]

im sorry but whats an INDY ?

[ryan stewart]

Originally Posted by ctuna

By the way lifetime fluids mean the car lasts only 100k.
Lifetime fluids are a marketing ploy used be car company's to
push product.

Google Mike Miller BMW and download the old school maintenance schedule.

Honestly I feel most of the modern maintenance rules have more to do with warranties than anything else. All of the sudden, after everyone started putting maintenance as a feature of a warranty, oil lasts 15k.

I stick to the old school methods instead of this new "fix when broke" model because I want to be able to depend on the car.

[ryan stewart]

Originally Posted by JRoldan79

im sorry but whats an INDY ?

Independent shop, not a dealer

[snedanator]

Originally Posted by JRoldan79

im sorry but whats an INDY ?

Not a BMW garage.

[ryan stewart]

Originally Posted by snedanator

Not a BMW garage.

Well, they can be BMW specific. But not a dealership. Just a place that works on BMWs and is well rated. Usually labor is a decent chunk lower.

[tlow98]

Originally Posted by ryan stewart

Honestly I feel most of the modern maintenance rules have more to do with warranties than anything else. All of the sudden, after everyone started putting maintenance as a feature of a warranty, oil lasts 15k.

I stick to the old school methods instead of this new "fix when broke" model because I want to be able to depend on the car.

Let’s not forget how much better modern synthetics are than what was largely used as recently as the 90s and early 2000s.

In general, tho, you’re right. Follow the money..

[lowrydr310]

Originally Posted by JRoldan79

the dealer told me i need a transmission flush but BMW guarantee the life time of the oil up to 100k and they are charging me $572 to do it.... i was told that it is a sealed transmission that doesnt need to be service

It's not a sealed transmission, just not easily serviceable. And no, the oil isn't guaranteed up to 100K in the sense that BMW will pay to replace it before then if it's needed. It's a regular maintenance item just like engine oil, tires, brakes, etc. BMW won't pay to replace it.

Originally Posted by JRoldan79

but so now is given me a red code for immediate service isnt this should be cover by the BMW not me havent to havent to pay for it... if any body has any suggestions please of what should i do about this

What red code? Is it general service or a transmission problem? If general service, you need to perform the required service.

Listen to the guys here and find an independent BMW mechanic, there should be plenty around you. I just did a quick search and there's one called Motorsport GmbH in Lyndhurst, no experience with them but a lot of positive reviews.

If you're just getting the generic service indicator and not a transmission specific failure, you don't need a $572 dealer flush, the only thing flushed is your wallet. You can choose to wait until 100K miles and get the fluid changed or go ahead and do it now along with whatever other service you need, it certainly won't hurt to replace it a bit sooner.

[biz77]

If it's the red gear with the exclamation point inside, that's a transmission fault. Flushing the transmission is not going to do anything for you. What does the fault code say? Have you scanned the car for codes?

[mweisdorfer]

Originally Posted by Gamb1t

Now you got me curious... how do you do that? Any photos of this wondrous line?

The trans cooler has two hydraulic lines on it, which are running from the passenger side. The cooler itself is attached to the engine fan by one screw on the driver's side.

You want to pull the bottom line, which is a return line from the transmission. It will be the warm one. You will need a special key to take the hydraulic fitting off, but you can get them on Amazon for $13-15.00.

You pull it off and direct it into a bucket. Turn the motor on and let 3 QTs run out. Fill 3 qts & repeat until you see clean, red fluid come out of the trans cooler line. This is of course done after your initial drain & replace the pan filter & fill.

This is the only way you can get all the crappy trans fluid out of the torque converter in one shot, unless you want to drain and fill once a week for about a month.

https://www.google.com/search?q=e90+...7dEytgbMsL5oFM:

[Pladi]

This is why i love forums EVERYONE has their idea of what should be done.

Sir please refer to ZF documents. All over the internet. How to perform when to perform and what fluid to use.

[Wolf 335]

Originally Posted by JRoldan79

Hi i have a 2009 E92 all wheel drive with 80,000 miles and the dealer told me i need a transmission flush but BMW guarantee the life time of the oil up to 100k and they are charging me $572 to do it.... i was told that it is a sealed transmission that doesnt need to be service but so now is given me a red code for immediate service isnt this should be cover by the BMW not me havent to havent to pay for it... if any body has any suggestions please of what should i do about this

Look up what transmission you have on realoem.


At this point you may as well do your pan and fluid.

Follow what ZF (manufacturer) recommends.

With aforementioned comes additional opportunity to address certain aspects of the mechatronic unit that may develop issues later, such as leaking mechatronic sleeve, and cracked mechatronic adapter (seal) that can cause jerky shifts. These are all items that can be done easily once the pan is off.

I just completed this whole job over the weekend.

My main issue was that I ran out of oil and had to make an emergency run to the dealer for two more liters.

Once the mechatronic unit is removed the oil will leak from the tranny for additional 30 mins. In the end I ended up adding 8.5 liters (with the engine running).

If you got any additional questions feel free to message me.

http://www.zftranspart.com/images/custom/mecha.pdf

http://www.thectsc.com/bmw-6hp19-6hp...vel-procedures

[JRoldan79]

GO it thanks!

[JRoldan79]

it came from the multi inspection form report/// given by the dealer im assuming from the scanner !

[BravoJohny33]

Originally Posted by ryan stewart

Well, they can be BMW specific. But not a dealership. Just a place that works on BMWs and is well rated. Usually labor is a decent chunk lower.

I was quoted 300 on a 6mt which takes about 30 min to do. I really do not get the indy dick sucking all the time on here.

[MysticRob]

Originally Posted by BravoJohny33

I was quoted 300 on a 6mt which takes about 30 min to do. I really do not get the indy dick sucking all the time on here.

Weren't you banned?
I haven't seen this knob-slobbing you refer to, merely the frequently true statements from many here that indys are cheaper and often just as good as stealerships. Why go high when you can just get by?

Originally Posted by JRoldan79

it came from the multi inspection form report/// given by the dealer im assuming from the scanner !

Say what? OP, you haven't actually seen any codes or IP dummy lights? Is there actually anything wrong with the transmission or the way the car drives?