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      08-07-2020, 07:27 AM   #969
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Just wanted to let you guys know that the conti belt y'all recommended fits the 110mm pulley perfectly and fixed all of my slipping issues!
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Just wanted to let you guys know that the conti belt y'all recommended fits the 110mm pulley perfectly and fixed all of my slipping issues!
Yeah, the one that came with kit before suck! Glad it worked for you, and found same reason I switched too. Cheers
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Just ordered gasket sets, vanos & ecs sensors, aluminum bolt sets, tensioner, deflector pulley, plugs, Delphi coils (they look pretty snazzy), thermostat & waterpump refresh, mishimoto thermostat, and CSF radiator, fresh Luk clutch. Trying redline oil this time around for funsies. Wanted to look into different coolants, but I kinda just defaulted to oem shit from the therm/waterpump refresh kit.
Inquired with Bob to see what meth kit / config would work best (aside from power levels, I feel like he should be super savvy about what I should be looking for). He is developing some cooling means — waiting intently for that before I run the car for anything other than parking it. About to ping ESS for a new pulley given the safeties that will be in place. I'd order a new belt to match everything, but if I'm able to change the pulley... you know the rest. It's just toooooo effing hot right now in the motherland to run this car without the safeties in place. I'm trying to piece together that sweet setrab oil cooler that was fabbed up in the past couple years. May not do a whole lot, but something is better than nothing. I love this car lmao. Fml. I'll keep y'all up to date on this shit show.
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The CSF radiator does not help at all. Assuming it is the same as the n54 version. Save your money and keep the stock one unless it is damaged. That is the consensus from everyone who has tracked their car with it from everything I have read.
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The CSF radiator does not help at all. Assuming it is the same as the n54 version. Save your money and keep the stock one unless it is damaged. That is the consensus from everyone who has tracked their car with it from everything I have read.
Are you serious? heck
Well... in your honest opinion, should I think about returning it even if the radiator in my car is the oem shid from like 2005???
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Are you serious? heck
Well... in your honest opinion, should I think about returning it even if the radiator in my car is the oem shid from like 2005???
Google the following:

csf-radiator-long-term-review

n54-cooling-temp-control-logic-and-what-are-your-temps-during-extended-track-use

N54 Cooling - Temp Control Logic and what are your temps during extended track use?

How to build an M car beating Z4 in three easy steps...]

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"Yeah I've never had power reduction due to oil. It typically happens due to iat and coolant with the N54.

The csf doesn't help with cooling performance. I hit 117C several times running it. Also some have had them start leaking, and really there's nothing special about that radiator. It is waaaay undersized, just like stock. So I highly recommend against it.

Spend the money on a radiator setup that actually increases cooling performance instead (large aux cooler(s)). You will want to increase the frontal area by around 50% to get something similar to what the S55 has. I recommend dual aux radiators."



The OEM radiator is MUCH more reliable. If you track the car the CSF will not help you. You need aux radiators as said above. Now with an N52 you might be just fine and get away without going into coolant temp limp. Return or cancel your shipment is my advice. Save some $$$.
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Are you serious? heck
Well... in your honest opinion, should I think about returning it even if the radiator in my car is the oem shid from like 2005???
Google the following:

csf-radiator-long-term-review

n54-cooling-temp-control-logic-and-what-are-your-temps-during-extended-track-use

N54 Cooling - Temp Control Logic and what are your temps during extended track use?

How to build an M car beating Z4 in three easy steps...]

best-aftermarket-oil-thermostat-solution-for-n54



"Yeah I've never had power reduction due to oil. It typically happens due to iat and coolant with the N54.

The csf doesn't help with cooling performance. I hit 117C several times running it. Also some have had them start leaking, and really there's nothing special about that radiator. It is waaaay undersized, just like stock. So I highly recommend against it.

Spend the money on a radiator setup that actually increases cooling performance instead (large aux cooler(s)). You will want to increase the frontal area by around 50% to get something similar to what the S55 has. I recommend dual aux radiators."



The OEM radiator is MUCH more reliable. If you track the car the CSF will not help you. You need aux radiators as said above. Now with an N52 you might be just fine and get away without going into coolant temp limp. Return or cancel your shipment is my advice. Save some $$$.
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Are you serious? heck
Well... in your honest opinion, should I think about returning it even if the radiator in my car is the oem shid from like 2005???
Google the following:

csf-radiator-long-term-review

n54-cooling-temp-control-logic-and-what-are-your-temps-during-extended-track-use

N54 Cooling - Temp Control Logic and what are your temps during extended track use?

How to build an M car beating Z4 in three easy steps...]

best-aftermarket-oil-thermostat-solution-for-n54



"Yeah I've never had power reduction due to oil. It typically happens due to iat and coolant with the N54.

The csf doesn't help with cooling performance. I hit 117C several times running it. Also some have had them start leaking, and really there's nothing special about that radiator. It is waaaay undersized, just like stock. So I highly recommend against it.

Spend the money on a radiator setup that actually increases cooling performance instead (large aux cooler(s)). You will want to increase the frontal area by around 50% to get something similar to what the S55 has. I recommend dual aux radiators."



The OEM radiator is MUCH more reliable. If you track the car the CSF will not help you. You need aux radiators as said above. Now with an N52 you might be just fine and get away without going into coolant temp limp. Return or cancel your shipment is my advice. Save some $$$.
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Question guys, car with tuner and we may drop smaller pulley, retune and drop some headers on w the custom tune. Question, where did you guys source the smaller pulley, and it took you to like 8 or 10psi? Also, looking to not be hated in Neigbohood and currently have res delete and magnaflow muffler... and no issue with sound level. If I get the AA headers on or equivalent is it much louder? I want to maximize the blower a bit more.

And assume that leave rear cats, anyways just looking for some input as this is our daily.
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You won't be able to run the OEM auxiliary radiator in its factory position if you have the supercharger intake behind the driver's side fog light. I wanted to do that with the 335is intake scoops but it physically won't fit without some custom fabricating.

Also wanted to say that the Stett oil cooler is absolutely badass. My oil temps stay between 190-200 and that's down from regularly seeing 230-250 before the oil cooler. I haven't gotten to use it on track yet, but if it stays stable below 250 in those conditions, I'll consider that a win.

My biggest worry when going back to the track is supercharger temps over a longer session. I've considered using AFE scoops and the OEM intake snorkel to try and air-cool the unit, but I don't know how helpful that'd be.

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You won't be able to run the OEM auxiliary radiator in its factory position if you have the supercharger intake behind the driver's side fog light. I wanted to do that with the 335is intake scoops but it physically won't fit without some custom fabricating.

Also wanted to say that the Stett oil cooler is absolutely badass. My oil temps stay between 190-200 and that's down from regularly seeing 230-250 before the oil cooler. I haven't gotten to use it on track yet, but if it stays stable below 250 in those conditions, I'll consider that a win.

My biggest worry when going back to the track is supercharger temps over a longer session. I've considered using AFE scoops and the OEM intake snorkel to try and air-cool the unit, but I don't know how helpful that'd be.
Are you running a thermostat on your oil cooler, and if so what temp does it open at?
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Are you running a thermostat on your oil cooler, and if so what temp does it open at?

I am, it opens at 180 degrees. It's an external thermostat made by improved racing and I run an adaptor plate on the filter housing. The needle stays absolutely dead still between 190-200 even during more spirited driving.
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Yeh — aiming to either mount it on the passenger side or somewhere in the lower grill (grille? Idk I don't talk to em.) of the bumper. I see a website offers the stett kit, but they haven't responded to my email since I noticed stett's website is down. So I pinged to confirm availability... nada. I have the vented hood from Duke Dynamics — honestly thought about getting a set of halogens, drilling a fat hole (UwU), and try to mimic what the hellcat has going on. I figure it would help push the air out the hood even more so. That with the burger motor sports cabin filter replacements that ditch the cowl should do okay with helping air pass through. I'd do these things purely because I would never typically drive this car in poor weather. (Lights are the obvious — the BMS cabin filters will allow water to drop right into where the cowl was protecting). That and possibly wrapping my AA headers while they're off or having them ceramic coated to control their heat a tad.
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Go to ESS' website.

Paste this after their original link: n52-vt/
(Don't wanna get pooped on by mod, sorry)

Exhaust: I dunno all pros and cons of this, but talk to your tuner about cold start delete. I think my car was bearable given my setup. I have highflow cats, too. If you're rocking OEM cats, I think you'll be okay. Just don't step on it in the neighborhood. Sauce: old neighbor in VA beach got salty about noise, I drove like a grandma out the neighborhood, all was right in the world. (Aa+xpipe+hi-flow cats+335 quads)

Everyone's different — but I think a few people can attest to the almost stock sound of the headers being in the mix if they drive normally.
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Go to ESS' website.

Paste this after their original link: n52-vt/
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Exhaust: I dunno all pros and cons of this, but talk to your tuner about cold start delete. I think my car was bearable given my setup. I have highflow cats, too. If you're rocking OEM cats, I think you'll be okay. Just don't step on it in the neighborhood. Sauce: old neighbor in VA beach got salty about noise, I drove like a grandma out the neighborhood, all was right in the world. (Aa+xpipe+hi-flow cats+335 quads)

Everyone's different — but I think a few people can attest to the almost stock sound of the headers being in the mix if they drive normally.
Thanks, not sure what you meant w their website. Don't see the smaller pulley and know they don't like the headers but why I do custom tune. Anyways, I check more and looks like new kit still puts out sane as ours.

Thanks for exhaust info, I think I will try headers, and leave stock rear cats and magnaflow and see. Worst case I put resonator back in. Good call on cold start delete and did that on other car too and a must w exhaust mods. Thanks man
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Ok guys - all committed now... in shop for headers, 105mm pulley, custom tune, full exhaust. He is thinking about 350-380 WHP. Will keep you posted, currently 280 whp as it sits.
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Thanks, not sure what you meant w their website. Don't see the smaller pulley and know they don't like the headers but why I do custom tune. Anyways, I check more and looks like new kit still puts out sane as ours.

Thanks for exhaust info, I think I will try headers, and leave stock rear cats and magnaflow and see. Worst case I put resonator back in. Good call on cold start delete and did that on other car too and a must w exhaust mods. Thanks man
Yeah some good deals on AA header right now....
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Ok guys - all committed now... in shop for headers, 105mm pulley, custom tune, full exhaust. He is thinking about 350-380 WHP. Will keep you posted, currently 280 whp as it sits.
I never thought I'd be so excited by a few lines of text. The only real thing keeping me from a supercharger is the problem with throttle tuning on the n52. I wouldnt sacrifice heel toe for any amount of hp
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I never thought I'd be so excited by a few lines of text. The only real thing keeping me from a supercharger is the problem with throttle tuning on the n52. I wouldnt sacrifice heel toe for any amount of hp
I don't think that's a problem. I heel toe the crap out of mine on pretty much every downshift!
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Ok guys - all committed now... in shop for headers, 105mm pulley, custom tune, full exhaust. He is thinking about 350-380 WHP. Will keep you posted, currently 280 whp as it sits.
I never thought I'd be so excited by a few lines of text. The only real thing keeping me from a supercharger is the problem with throttle tuning on the n52. I wouldnt sacrifice heel toe for any amount of hp
Also, shop will install an air-to-air intercooler w some custom tubing being required to be made obviously! Pumped!
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