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      04-01-2019, 06:08 AM   #309
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This was my point. There is no story. Just a regular n54 that the owner pulled the bearings on. But of course for the n54 you'll make excuses but the n55 you'll blame the engine.
Well of course I will because to this date there has been more on N55 and N54, even on facebook post regards to OFHG failures. I know this is in regards to general wear but IMO both are related in the end.

And to be fair these looks less worse than some on N55 pulled BUT Ozzie didn't look like the end of the world either considering he was on crazy HP.

I don't know.
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      04-01-2019, 08:37 AM   #310
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Well of course I will because to this date there has been more on N55 and N54, even on facebook post regards to OFHG failures. I know this is in regards to general wear but IMO both are related in the end.

And to be fair these looks less worse than some on N55 pulled BUT Ozzie didn't look like the end of the world either considering he was on crazy HP.

I don't know.
Lol maybe you can carry this comment over to this thread that just started: https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1599392
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Lol maybe you can carry this comment over to this thread that just started: https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1599392
Haha just read that thread about an hour ago and pretty sure his problems are due to his engine swallowing engine belts without cleaning up the internals afterwards and driving with low pressure and not strictly due to bearings issue.
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Haha just read that thread about an hour ago and pretty sure his problems are due to his engine swallowing engine belts without cleaning up the internals afterwards and driving with low pressure and not strictly due to bearings issue.
exactly that engine was destroyed from pure neglect and obvious one. So its outside any type of discussion.
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Haha just read that thread about an hour ago and pretty sure his problems are due to his engine swallowing engine belts without cleaning up the internals afterwards and driving with low pressure and not strictly due to bearings issue.
"Another one" in DJ Khaled voice

https://www.facebook.com/groups/9323...1027333029060/

Again, I'm not saying you guys are wrong in saying that there are concerns over rod bearing wear. I'm just saying you guys are wrong in regard to this being some exclusive 2011 n55 issue just because you found 5 people to agree with you on this forum. You should be tryign to fight that stigma of the N55 as well.

And now you keep mentioning the ofhg in every post for some reason lol that's a different thread.

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/9323...1027333029060/

Again, I'm not saying you guys are wrong in saying that there are concerns over rod bearing wear. I'm just saying you guys are wrong in regard to this being some exclusive 2011 n55 issue just because you found 5 people to agree with you on this forum. You should be tryign to fight that stigma of the N55 as well.

And now you keep mentioning the ofhg in every post for some reason lol that's a different thread.
Out of all the comments only one guy is saying rod bearings though so I'm not sure if we can conclude that is the issue.

Yeah it's just what I've seen recently I admit. Not seeing as much or barely N54 issues just makes me lean more one way than the other that's all.
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/9323...1027333029060/

Again, I'm not saying you guys are wrong in saying that there are concerns over rod bearing wear. I'm just saying you guys are wrong in regard to this being some exclusive 2011 n55 issue just because you found 5 people to agree with you on this forum. You should be tryign to fight that stigma of the N55 as well.

And now you keep mentioning the ofhg in every post for some reason lol that's a different thread.
That's n54. I don't think is year specific but I do think that both n54 and n55 had issue with the bearings failing prematurely. Why, I don't know.
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That's n54. I don't think is year specific but I do think that both n54 and n55 had issue with the bearings failing prematurely. Why, I don't know.
I know it's n54... I'm just continuing to post the daily n54 failures I see vs the nonexistant n55 ones lol again in response the people saying they dont see n54s ever fail.
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I know it's n54... I'm just continuing to post the daily n54 failures I see vs the nonexistant n55 ones lol again in response the people saying they dont see n54s ever fail.
At the shop, actually, n55 are more frequent with rod/seized issue. I know you will comment how many many n55 were made. So were other engines with lower fail rate however...
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"I'm just saying you guys are wrong in regard to this being some exclusive 2011 n55 issue just because you found 5 people to agree with you on this forum. You should be tryign to fight that stigma of the N55 as well."

Not sure who you mean by that, but I am fully aware of N54 rod bearing issues, among other BMW engines. I think we all are. Let me know when the 2012 or 2013 guys create a spreadsheet for documentation and discussion? It sounds like you've got the N54 guys pretty well covered. Now put that data on paper.

"I'm just continuing to post the daily n54 failures I see vs the nonexistant n55 ones lol again in response the people saying they dont see n54s ever fail."

Us guys with N55s will continue to worry about our engines. As one worrying about my 2011 N55, I for one took proactive measures. You keep bringing up the N54s, of which there probably were tons more of them made, are all getting mechanically old, and were built up and beaten relentlessly. Regardless of how many N54 engines fail similarly, all that matters is your engine. Not to mention have a look at how many N54 guys vs N55 guys are online at any point in time. They eat, drink and breathe this crap, and have done so long before the N55 came about. My point here is regardless of how many failures there are for either engine, the N54 guys are more likely to report it.
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GS350 F Sport.. get it right
Buddy only BMW makes sports cars.. Toyota only makes corolla and camrys..

Same with all other japanese cars , Nissan only makes sentras. They dont know how. Only BMW knows how to F*** your weekend. With a :
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Us guys with N55s will continue to worry about our engines. As one worrying about my 2011 N55, I for one took proactive measures. You keep bringing up the N54s, of which there probably were tons more of them made, are all getting mechanically old, and were built up and beaten relentlessly. Regardless of how many N54 engines fail similarly, all that matters is your engine. Not to mention have a look at how many N54 guys vs N55 guys are online at any point in time. They eat, drink and breathe this crap, and have done so long before the N55 came about. My point here is regardless of how many failures there are for either engine, the N54 guys are more likely to report it.
I completely get that you're worried about your engine. More power to you for swapping out the bearings.

People get upset when I go back and quote them. If I do that and prove to people using their own comments they get very upset and call me names and say I have an ego. so, forget that. People apparent;y don't want to have meaningful conversations on the internet. I am not "bringing up" n54s. Other people said N54s don't fail and that this is only an n55 issue. I am pointing out that they do fail lol literally every single day almost. I'd also put money on it that there are massively more N55s on the road than N54s, since you brought that up again. And, massively more N55s still under warranty which is why you see them at the dealer still. You're logic there is completely backwards.

All you have to do is search if oyu want to see other failures. I don't know if F-series have made a spreadsheet but there are sure as shit plenty of rod bearing threads on F30 post, 2addicts, and several other forums lol.

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Buddy only BMW makes sports cars.. Toyota only makes corolla and camrys..

Same with all other japanese cars , Nissan only makes sentras. They dont know how. Only BMW knows how to F*** your weekend. With a :
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Fuel Pump

Fail
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Oh, believe me, I'm still going to have an E chasis in the line up. I had to have my car towed twice in two months while I had the kids in the car; not again. This GS350 is tits. I would totally recommend to a friend.
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Buddy only BMW makes sports cars.. Toyota only makes corolla and camrys..

Same with all other japanese cars , Nissan only makes sentras. They dont know how. Only BMW knows how to F*** your weekend. With a :
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Man, your butt hole is really raw. Please tell again how BMW hurt you,

And yeah the GS350 F Sport is a screamer, lol
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Man, your butt hole is really raw. Please tell again how BMW hurt you,

And yeah the GS350 F Sport is a screamer, lol
It's slow as snot, I want to say on the dyno it's only putting down like 225 to the wheels and weighs close to 4k lbs.
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All these threads are just making me paranoid more and more. I intend to keep my 335 long term, but every little tick and odd noise are driving me up a wall.

Anybody have idea of the cost for a mechanic to change them out?

The F30 board on this topic is saying the 2014+ n55s share the same bearings as the s55. I might look into this route unless there's something better.
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bbnks, I hear you. More and more I believe this is a clearance thing, and as you arrived at the other day, the wear likely occurs over time until that one fatal event. I theorize that extra .001 may provide a tad more precious lubrication, thus minimizing the chance of metal on metal.

hibye, most of the guys here do their own wrenching. I don't have the facilities to do so myself, nor would I care to drop my ride off somewhere with a box of parts, with my tail planted firmly between my legs. As one that has just had this done like the last few weeks I have a pretty good grasp on the cost.

Parts: About 400 dollars. This is for going with the King bearings, which provide a .002 inch clearence versus the stock BMW .001 inch.

Labour: According to the book it is 7 hours, + .2 hours for each bearing. My guy asked for 700 bucks.

Alignment: As the subframe is taken out it is a good practice to assure that the alignment is confirmed. This is another 200 dollars.

= Approximately 1300 dollars total

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All these threads are just making me paranoid more and more. I intend to keep my 335 long term, but every little tick and odd noise are driving me up a wall.

Anybody have idea of the cost for a mechanic to change them out?

The F30 board on this topic is saying the 2014+ n55s share the same bearings as the s55. I might look into this route unless there's something better.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part...&q=11247576714

11247576714 (07/01/2011 - Present)
11247558880 (06/01/2006 — 09/12/2012)

Same part number standard rod bearings were put into pretty much every BMW since mid 2011. Prior to that, the same part number standard bearings were put into both N54's and early N55s. There is no 2014+ part number change.

People are claiming on the F-series boards that there was a "flaw" with 2013 N55s too. Yet, there was no part number change. Guess where that rumor started? "a guy at a dealer told me." It's as if people don't realize dealers are pretty clueless (for the most part).

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http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part...&q=11247576714

11247576714 (07/01/2011 - Present)
11247558880 (06/01/2006 — 09/12/2012)

Same part number standard rod bearings were put into pretty much every BMW since mid 2011. Prior to that, the same part number standard bearings were put into both N54's and early N55s. There is no 2014+ part number change.

People are claiming on the F-series boards that there was a "flaw" with 2013 N55s too. Yet, there was no part number change. Guess where that rumor started? "a guy at a dealer told me." It's as if people don't realize dealers are pretty clueless (for the most part).
TheMidnightNarwhal according to real oem ur car and my car have same bearings !
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TheMidnightNarwhal according to real oem ur car and my car have same bearings !
Yeah it's why I was following the N55 rod bearing issue or "rumours" if you want to call it that with close attention. Well more the OFHG and instant engine fails shortly after which may or may not be related to the bearings.
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All these threads are just making me paranoid more and more. I intend to keep my 335 long term, but every little tick and odd noise are driving me up a wall.

Anybody have idea of the cost for a mechanic to change them out?

The F30 board on this topic is saying the 2014+ n55s share the same bearings as the s55. I might look into this route unless there's something better.
Take a break from BMW forums. It's like hanging out in a hospital. You'll assume everyone has cancer and every symptom is cancer.
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