Whats next for PROcede/Piggybacks?

E90ice · 12-13-2007, 11:15 PM

Shiv, or everyone else, whats next for PROcede or the piggyback world, power-wise? Are we maxed out on power from these units?

B00sted335BMW · 12-13-2007, 11:21 PM

Upgraded- Turbo, Manifold, Fuel Pump, Injectors, etc.........

Pretty much like every other turbo car.

Also if you notice alot of the tuners are starting to say to use 98+octane for their 100% settings, that is usually a sign they are reaching their limits.........

even though u could live life dangerously, but it seems like the avg modder on here doesn't want to blow their turbos just to get to 450whp on no turbo upgrades and just increased boost and timing and air and fuel ratios........

335iheLLraiseR · 12-13-2007, 11:33 PM

shiv has stated that the limit for stock internals would most likely be in the 450rwp range.

FuelTuner · 12-13-2007, 11:40 PM

i havent heard much from Active.. I too was wondering what is going on with some of the other tuners during the recent activity with V2, JBS2R"H" and Helix.
So what's Active up to? I would love more maps from them or an idea of what is in the future for the Xede.
Because I am going to be upgrading the car over the winter, I would like some more ajustability.
I have been looking at the CP-E Standback, V2, or I could simply retune the Xede with the ChipTorque software, but I would be starting at zero and that would be EXPENSIVE$$$$$$....
So whats up AA??
( Sorry, didnt mean to jack this thread a bit. )

scottp999 · 12-14-2007, 01:19 AM

Downpipe maps are next - probably 400whp max without changing engine internals or a turbo upgrade (93 octane). I am sticking with bolt ons. 400whp will be enough for me!

j|rz44 · 12-14-2007, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335iheLLraiseR

shiv has stated that the limit for stock internals would most likely be in the 450rwp range.

450 is perfect....
anything more then that is a waste of money.
get a V8 if you want some more power than that, i say...

GL

HPIA4v2 · 12-14-2007, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90ice

Shiv, or everyone else, whats next for PROcede or the piggyback world, power-wise? Are we maxed out on power from these units?

Fix the limp mode problem?

Oops you meant power-wise, of course more power (and no limp mode)!

e90AW335i · 12-14-2007, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPIA4v2

Fix the limp mode problem?

Oops you meant power-wise, of course more power (and no limp mode)!

Put your flame suit on......

Scottward · 12-14-2007, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmramos44

450 is perfect....
anything more then that is a waste of money.
get a V8 if you want some more power than that, i say...

GL

Actually, not many V8's can make 450 at the wheels. To get that currently you need a heavily modified N/A V8 or big V8 (ie LS7) or a F/I one (ie 5.4L GT500).

Driver72 · 12-14-2007, 01:33 PM

Personally, I don't want a 400 whp 335i

The ideal power output for me would be

355-360 rwhp
360 rwtq

on 91 Octane pump gas and simple drop in filter.

The PROcede v2.0.2 is not far off that now, as I got 345 rwhp and 352 rwtq
That was on 92% settings on 92 Octane.

I'm guessing on 91 Octane with 93% settings I would be at the same power level as 92 Octane at 92% settings.

So I'm hoping v2.0.3 will up the power and torque just a bit so I can run an easy 91 Octane tune with a bit more power up top and a bit more torque below 4500 rpms and no major power drop off in the last 300 rpms like the current v2.0.2 6AT map has, and I'd be golden.

I can live with a mid 12's @ 114 mph daily driving 335i Coupe.

HPIA4v2 · 12-14-2007, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver72

Personally, I don't want a 400 whp 335i

The ideal power output for me would be

355-360 rwhp
360 rwtq

on 91 Octane pump gas and simple drop in filter.

The PROcede v2.0.2 is not far off that now, as I got 345 rwhp and 352 rwtq
That was on 92% settings on 92 Octane.

I'm guessing on 91 Octane with 93% settings I would be at the same power level as 92 Octane at 92% settings.

So I'm hoping v2.0.3 will up the power and torque just a bit so I can run an easy 91 Octane tune with a bit more power up top and a bit more torque below 4500 rpms and no major power drop off in the last 300 rpms like the current v2.0.2 6AT map has, and I'd be golden.

I can live with a mid 12's @ 114 mph daily driving 335i Coupe.

+1

Since, there is always somebody with more power. (boorrowing fortune cookies quote).

cn555ic · 12-14-2007, 02:28 PM

I think from this point is special maps for DP, exhaust and other mods...V2 like Shiv said will improve via maps and firmware....and maybe possible other enhanced features via the Procede reader program...Remember V2 gives us the feature to tune our own cars with the torque settings that each individual car can handle!!!

ezatnova · 12-14-2007, 03:15 PM

I hope to see a V2 type Procede that is one whole unit, to buy without first having 1.47 and adding to it.

DanMardik · 12-14-2007, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottward

Actually, not many V8's can make 450 at the wheels. To get that currently you need a heavily modified N/A V8 or big V8 (ie LS7) or a F/I one (ie 5.4L GT500).

I was just thinking the same thing.. lol.. some people just have no clue.

stressdoc · 12-14-2007, 03:36 PM

To: Shiv Claus
335 San Jose Pole, apt. N54
BMW Mecca, USA

Easy, reliable plug-in fittings. Amped water pump like the Dinan. Perfect power curve. Cockpit-adjustable programs -- switch from boring fuel efficient mode to screamer mode by touching a button. Oh, and a rocket sled.

I've been a good boy.

e.n335 · 12-14-2007, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver72

Personally, I don't want a 400 whp 335i

The ideal power output for me would be

355-360 rwhp
360 rwtq

on 91 Octane pump gas and simple drop in filter.

The PROcede v2.0.2 is not far off that now, as I got 345 rwhp and 352 rwtq
That was on 92% settings on 92 Octane.

I'm guessing on 91 Octane with 93% settings I would be at the same power level as 92 Octane at 92% settings.

So I'm hoping v2.0.3 will up the power and torque just a bit so I can run an easy 91 Octane tune with a bit more power up top and a bit more torque below 4500 rpms and no major power drop off in the last 300 rpms like the current v2.0.2 6AT map has, and I'd be golden.

I can live with a mid 12's @ 114 mph daily driving 335i Coupe.

+1000

I have similar goals as Driver72 but I will support the tune with a drop in filter, FMIC and catted downpipes. This will allow to use lower torque % settings for the same gains. As long as further map versions support the current power / torque output levels the PROcede V2 is the perfect ECU tuning for me. Others may come, the PROcede is reality. I have no intensions for more power or torque and I can use any kind of gas in case I have to. I am looking forward to additional functionality. I am impressed that Shiv finally made such a tune.

- Eugen

j|rz44 · 12-14-2007, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottward

Actually, not many V8's can make 450 at the wheels. To get that currently you need a heavily modified N/A V8 or big V8 (ie LS7) or a F/I one (ie 5.4L GT500).

im w/ ya, but getting to 500 would be much easier...
thats what i was getting at.
ive got an 05 C6 in cali. that i would push to the 600 mark..
this lil V6 im going to keep around 400 whp

GL

satinghostrider · 12-14-2007, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmramos44

im w/ ya, but getting to 500 would be much easier...
thats what i was getting at.
ive got an 05 C6 in cali. that i would push to the 600 mark..
this lil V6 im going to keep around 400 whp

GL

Its Inline 6 not V6.

scalbert · 12-14-2007, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmramos44

this lil V6

I6

j|rz44 · 12-14-2007, 08:31 PM

Ahh the hairs we split

j|rz44 · 12-14-2007, 08:32 PM

how about straight Six

satinghostrider · 12-14-2007, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmramos44

how about straight Six

Smart Ass.

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Driver72 Brigadier General 329 Rep 4,484 Posts Drives: 335i - to new owners now. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Personally, I don't want a 400 whp 335i The ideal power output for me would be 355-360 rwhp 360 rwtq on 91 Octane pump gas and simple drop in filter. The PROcede v2.0.2 is not far off that now, as I got 345 rwhp and 352 rwtq That was on 92% settings on 92 Octane. I'm guessing on 91 Octane with 93% settings I would be at the same power level as 92 Octane at 92% settings. So I'm hoping v2.0.3 will up the power and torque just a bit so I can run an easy 91 Octane tune with a bit more power up top and a bit more torque below 4500 rpms and no major power drop off in the last 300 rpms like the current v2.0.2 6AT map has, and I'd be golden. I can live with a mid 12's @ 114 mph daily driving 335i Coupe.
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