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      01-18-2011, 05:20 AM   #23
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My 135i cost me £120 for an oil service, which like the 335i is conditioned based.

Compared to the 335i the interior in nigh on identical and comments on the quality issues are unjustified and don’t forget the car’s £10k cheaper.

The ride quality it’s as good as the E92 which I put down to the shorter wheel base, they’re still a very capable cars.
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Unless the bigger engined 1 series have completely different interiors with better quality plastics then I stand by my comment about the major differences between the 1 and 3. It's obvious there's a difference due to price but it is a step back in that dept as I experienced when I had a 1 as a courtesy car.
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M cars are also conditioned based. if you plan of keeping it a few years, you might do well to look at the BMW serice inclusive option, mine cost the original owner £1k and for 5 years or 60k covers.

-Oil service

- Oil top-ups between services

- Vehicle-check and standard inspections

- Micro filter

- Renew spark plugs

- Renew brake fluid

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      01-18-2011, 06:27 AM   #26
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Unless the bigger engined 1 series have completely different interiors with better quality plastics then I stand by my comment about the major differences between the 1 and 3. It's obvious there's a difference due to price but it is a step back in that dept as I experienced when I had a 1 as a courtesy car.
I stand by the fact I owned both and they are nigh on identical.

In fact, my 08 135 (with silver flourishes as per all 08 cars) had a better interior than my 07 335d, because that didn't have silver flourishes and hence looked a little cheaper.

The 135 was by far the more interesting, more pleasant and more exciting car to drive, but make no mistake, 335 Coupe has more comfort features such as... Erm... The thing that passes you the seatbelt.... Erm... Other stuff probably.

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      01-18-2011, 06:29 AM   #27
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Unless the bigger engined 1 series have completely different interiors with better quality plastics then I stand by my comment about the major differences between the 1 and 3. It's obvious there's a difference due to price but it is a step back in that dept as I experienced when I had a 1 as a courtesy car.
Agree +1

I've had several smaller 1's and the interior is poor. 116i, 118d, 120d etc. Hard plastics eveywhere, flimsier dash, and less sound proofing, shut the door and it feels like the handle might brake off. Real rattle boxes. A friend with his 120d got in my 3er and couldn't believe it - he was gutted as he though his 1er was 'just like the other BMs'.

BUT - Having been a passenger in a 135i if felt much more substantial, maybe just more sound proofing or thicker carpets?

They are not just smaller 3's though, you think they save 10 grand because the 1er is 14mm narrower than a 3er?

Its all in reduced spec and trim, the same as a 3er is less than a 5er is less than a 6er and a 7er. Have you felt the quality in a 6er? Makes the 3er feel like a Peugeot!

Same structure with Audi A2, A3, A4, A5, A8 etc or any manufacturer TBH.

Its about meeting customer expectations, up the range means higher expectations. If you're spending more money you don't just want a bigger car, you want a bigger and better car.

So they're not going to waste money where (most) buyers don't expect it. That is also why small variants are such a money spinner for premium manufacturers, they can charge 'new' customers a premium for the 'brand' but not have to deliver the higher costs of the more traditional variant ranges where established customers have much higher expectations - this is common car manufacturing knowledge, you can read about it anywhere.

Admittedly thought the 1M is different to a regular 1er and I'd have one if I was able to!

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      01-18-2011, 09:59 AM   #28
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M cars are also conditioned based. if you plan of keeping it a few years, you might do well to look at the BMW serice inclusive option, mine cost the original owner £1k and for 5 years or 60k covers.

-Oil service

- Oil top-ups between services

- Vehicle-check and standard inspections

- Micro filter

- Renew spark plugs

- Renew brake fluid
The 5 year free servicing on mine only cost £350 or £450.
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The 5 year free servicing on mine only cost £350 or £450.
Well you must realise. M car owners are going to get shafted.
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I wanted a 135.

Until I drove it.

Lots of intrusive wind noise - I think it was the wing mirrors and also top of the screen but not 100%.

Biggest stoppers for me were the tiny boot compared to a 3er, but worst point was the tranny tunnel intruding into the clutch pedal area.
After catching my left foot repeatedly on the rest, I couldnt wait to ditch the idea.
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Think the 1 M will be great if it really is more chuck-able than the e90 M3.

Of course, the V8 is great compensation on the pie eating M3
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All interesting posts.

I'm struggling with this decision. I really am.

Anneka is going to come back to me with some rough numbers. I'll take it from there.
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Apologies Creepy I forgot you'd changed to an M3. £1k is a bargain then for 5 years free servicing on an M3 and would have to be the first option chosen.
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1M spotted in London, looks pretty nice.

Perfect colour for Mega too.





Also found some Ring times for the 1M amongst other cars.

BMWs Compared:

335d - 7:44
E46 M3 CSL - 7:50
E90/E92 M3 - 8:05
1 series M coupe - 8:12
Z4 M-Coupe - 8:12
E60 M5
Z4 M-Roadster - 8:15
E46 M3 - 8:22
335i E92 Coupe - 8:26

Other Models Compared:

Renault Clio 172 - 6:36
911 Carrera S (997) - 7:50
Audi R8 - 8:04
Cayman S - 8:04 (by Walter Röhrl)
Audi RS4 - 8:09
BMW 1 series M coupe - 8:12
Aston Martin V8 Vantage - 8:13
Mercedes C63 AMG PP - 8:13
Corvette C6 - 8:15
Cayman S - 8:16 (Sport Auto)
Porsche Boxter S (987) - 8:18
Lexus IS-F - 8:18
2010 VW Golf R - 8:23
Audi S5 (2007) - 8:26
Audi TT-S (2008) - 8:29
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Needs to get a black cab to the kerb
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Needs to get a black cab to the kerb



What do you reckon to the Ring track times?
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Shame it doesn't say whether wet or dry.

Look at the Renault Clio 172.............cheeky French buggers........nice one to be fair. (Cat out of the bag now, but funny nevertheless).

And why isn't my little go-kart in there @ 8.09. Not that any of it matters in 'real life' lol.

Dave - in all seriousness have a good look around the car if you go down the 1 Series route because one of my reservations was possible differences in build quality as lets be honest, manufacturers are buggers for putting that bit more effort into a bigger model and when you're buying the top of the range of one particular model it may not stack up.

Mine isn't quite as 'grown up' in feel as the S5 was but the build quality is still there. Same as the Cayman S and the 911's tbh. But again, the overall package is there (fun factor!) and what you're happy with is what matters.

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