R8 V12 TDI has a MT; Why no MT 335d?

beemerbird · 01-14-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by G33

but we all know the DXB is just a glorified tractor

Yeah right - you can PULL in a tractor though

Forgot to say - that Audi is something else!

tisme · 01-14-2008, 05:42 PM

My dealer says no manual 335D because there isn't a strong enough gearbox available, so they are all singing off the same hymn sheet.

Anyway, I'll make do with a manual 330D, just can't wait!

NFS · 01-14-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

Your in dream land if you think a 335i is quicker than a 335d. There is sweet FA in it. Not one quicker than the other.

The 335i is quicker

E92Fan · 01-14-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by needforspeed

The 335i is quicker

It is from a standstill... but once on the move there's really nothing in it. However, accelerating through a corner, or going round a roundabout, I'd WHIP Carlos' butt... You'll LOSE buddy...!!!!!

NFS · 01-15-2008, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by E92Fan

It is from a standstill... but once on the move there's really nothing in it. However, accelerating through a corner, or going round a roundabout, I'd WHIP Carlos' butt... You'll LOSE buddy...!!!!!

The 335i is faster to 60mph and it will be quicker on a track.

In a 'drag' race from a rolling start the 335d will be able to keep up with a 335i, but that's just one situation.

Therefore Carlos Fandangos statement that there is FA in it is B*LLOCKs

G33 · 01-15-2008, 03:22 AM

i think we shud try it a the meet

NFS · 01-15-2008, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by G33

i think we shud try it a the meet

I think that would be very interesting. In the meantime, as Lloyd Grossman said in 'through the keyhole':

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Let's look at the evidence

0-62 time - Official BMW figures for the coupe are:

335i - 5.5 secs
335d - 6.1 secs

1/4 mile time

The attached screenshot from drag times shows the infamous Carlos Fandango 335d run .. and quite a number of faster times for stock 335i's.

Terza · 01-15-2008, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by needforspeed

The 335i is quicker

Oooooh, now you gonna get it.. Just wait 'till mr. Carlos logs in..

NFS · 01-15-2008, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Terza

Oooooh, now you gonna get it.. Just wait 'till mr. Carlos logs in..

This is what Carlos said:

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

Your in dream land if you think a 335i is quicker than a 335d. There is sweet FA in it. Not one quicker than the other.

I thought that a 335i was faster than a 335d, because it gets from 0-62 more quickly and takes less time to cover the 1/4 mile.

Either I am in dreamland or Carlos is using an alternative from of physics.

330cdsport · 01-15-2008, 08:00 AM

Here we go again

Serjames · 01-15-2008, 08:21 AM

everyday driving vs 0-60 or 1/4 mile.

That's the difference.

If every traffic light was a staging light the i would win everytime.

HOWEVER real life isn't like that and I think that's where the D advocates are coming from.... having followed the big D's i agree - not a lot in it.

The D also has an advantage in being easier to tune to stage 1 in the UK.

the 335i being a little more tricky

SJ

G33 · 01-15-2008, 08:37 AM

why didnt u get the D then SJ?!

ps. hows the quaife? is it 'in' yet?!

Serjames · 01-15-2008, 08:55 AM

Cos to be honest I didn't know any better....

And I wanted the convert...

Don't get me wrong, VERY happy with my 400bhp i thank you very much.

No quaife yet !!

Breakers wanted 600 quid for the dead diff... WTF !

SJ

andy69 · 01-15-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by needforspeed

I think that would be very interesting. In the meantime, as Lloyd Grossman said in 'through the keyhole':

0-62 time - Official BMW figures for the coupe are:

335i - 5.5 secs
335d - 6.1 secs

1/4 mile time

The attached screenshot from drag times shows the infamous Carlos Fandango 335d run .. and quite a number of faster times for stock 335i's.

yawn.....

can't we have a fight over the 320d and 320i for a change

G33 · 01-15-2008, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Serjames

Cos to be honest I didn't know any better....

And I wanted the convert...

Don't get me wrong, VERY happy with my 400bhp i thank you very much.

No quaife yet !!

Breakers wanted 600 quid for the dead diff... WTF !

SJ

so u not going ahead with it? omg how inconsiderate, what about my locking bracket!?

SJ some downpipes and youve got another easy 25+hp! installation isnt easy or cheap tho....

Dave_3 · 01-15-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by needforspeed

The attached screenshot from drag times shows the infamous Carlos Fandango 335d run .. and quite a number of faster times for stock 335i's.

I drive a 335D ... but just don't see the fascination of 1/4 mile runs. A mildly trained chimp could just mash the pedal on the 335D and steer in a straight line. No skill needed whatsoever (you could even blind-fold the chimp and lock the steering wheel straight ahead)- all down to how BMW programs the ZF gearbox software and builds the engine. Y A W N. Zzzzzzzz... what does it prove ? Nothing at all about the skill of the chimp.

At least the 335i drivers actually have to choose when, and then physically swap cogs themselves. Bit of skill there - and chances to shave fractions of seconds off your run.

But even if a 335i could get to the 1/4 twice as quickly as a 335D it would mean nothing to me as I pootle to and fro from work ... surfing on my torque curve

D.

Serjames · 01-15-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by G33

so u not going ahead with it? omg how inconsiderate, what about my locking bracket!?

SJ some downpipes and youve got another easy 25+hp! installation isnt easy or cheap tho....

nope still gonna do it, just going to let them sweat a bit before offering a lower price.

At the end of the day If i don't find a donar diff, I'll just have to stump up the full price to kevin, adds quite a bit, but that's tough I guess.

SJ

By the way have you checked that other BMW loom / harness plugs don't match or is that connector UNIQUE to the 335i ?

dxb335d · 01-15-2008, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by G33

i think we shud try it a the meet

Me and Tony have tried it a few times... i have tried with mates with e36 M3 and there is nothing it it either.

dxb335d · 01-15-2008, 10:08 AM

NFS, LIKE I HAVE SAID BEFORE

the 335D IS CAPABLE OF A MID 13 STOCK!!!

also most of those ARE USA CARS RUNNING DRAG RADIALS.

there is also alot more 335i being timed. I know i can live with a 335i all day long, (unless its SJ's) so NFS. Give up and get one. the 335i tho for you.

dxb335d · 01-15-2008, 10:08 AM

Like SJ and Tony said, 40mph -140+ nowt in it..

Insider · 01-15-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve A

That is bananas!!! in gear that will be mega!

On the subject of the 335d not having a manual version, my take is that it would be faster than the i ans BMW did not want that!!

squeezebm · 01-15-2008, 10:15 AM

Can i just add that the M3 beats ALL (including the silly hairdressers chipped 335i)

thankyou

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Serjames Colonel 128 Rep 2,426 Posts Drives: E93 335i M-sport Join Date: May 2007 Location: Surrey - UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E93 335i M Spo ... [0.00] 2003 Nissan Primera S [0.00]	everyday driving vs 0-60 or 1/4 mile. That's the difference. If every traffic light was a staging light the i would win everytime. HOWEVER real life isn't like that and I think that's where the D advocates are coming from.... having followed the big D's i agree - not a lot in it. The D also has an advantage in being easier to tune to stage 1 in the UK. the 335i being a little more tricky SJ __________________
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G33 Colonel 91 Rep 2,079 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London iTrader: (0)	why didnt u get the D then SJ?! ps. hows the quaife? is it 'in' yet?!
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squeezebm Colonel 40 Rep 2,652 Posts Drives: Audi Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Notts iTrader: (0)	Can i just add that the M3 beats ALL (including the silly hairdressers chipped 335i) thankyou
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