Ads BM1 Remote start on a 6mt manual

Fb2017 · 10-26-2018, 09:19 AM

Hi guys, I've been doing some digging around in regards to putting a compustar ads bm1 remote starter in my manual 2011 328xi.

With days where the mercury drops to minus 25 celsius in the winter its definitely something that I'm hoping to have put in to give my engine enough time to warm up (even slightly)

I never leave the car in gear so that bit is not really a concern of mine. Here is my plan thus far. Please share your opinions and suggestions on the install.

In terms of starting the car overall aside from 2-3 lines of code in the cas there is not a whole lot different between an automatic and manual car. The starting process mainly varies between which pedal you have to press to start it up.

My plan is to install the ads bm1 with all the settings for an automatic. In order to trick the car for pressing in the clutch I am thinking of putting a toggle switch under the dash that essentially shorts the safety switch making the car think the clutch is depressed. Thus when getting out of the car I hit the switch, and when getting into it I turn the switch off. This should eliminate the error codes for a malfunctioning switch as the car will not think the clutch is depressed 24/7 while driving.

The basics of the ads bm1 simply do the following
- copy the key information and show the car that it is safe to start
-trick the car to thinking the brake is depressed
-give the command to start the car
-use the brake pedal as a kill switch for remote takeover

Aside from the switch for the clutch, I understand that the kill switch in the remote starter may not be as effective (as it would be the brake pedal and not the clutch) but I doubt anybody would get far without using the brake pedal.

If there is anything that I'm missing please do let me know. My intention is to have as much of a plug and play setup as possible. As it stands I would have to only tap two wires for the clutch and the rest would be using the t harnesses provided with the remote starter.

Thanks for your help!

Fb2017 · 10-26-2018, 03:53 PM

Bump?

Ali-E90 · 10-27-2018, 08:31 AM

Following!

In the research I did a few years back, I couldn't find anyone attempt this, so eager to see you achieve positive results!

Fb2017 · 10-27-2018, 08:33 AM

I ordered the programmer so I'll give it a whirl next weekend. Will keep you posted!

Fb2017 · 10-27-2018, 05:04 PM

I do welcome any tips from anyone thats done the initial programming. Should it be done while connected to the car? Or separate from it?

Thanks in advance!

6ixSpd · 10-30-2018, 02:50 AM

Don't they make one specifically for 6MT cars? I swear I saw it online along with the detailed wiring instructions.

6spdcoupe · 11-01-2018, 08:34 AM

Tried this a few years back, with extensive coding including eliminating the need for the clutch to start with no positive results.

Fb2017 · 11-13-2018, 10:57 PM

Okay everyone.. heres the update thus far. All tips and whatnot are welcome.

I installed the Ads BM1 into the car without a hitch (not a whole lot of space courtesy of the clutch pedal)

As it stands I have been able to sort of remote start the car with me sitting in it with the clutch pedal down by pressing lock 3x. Also got it working via rf.

I am also able to lock/unlock the car via two way rf. Very useful as I have no alarm and no stupid beep letting me know its locked

Now for the issues!

It only starts for a second then shuts off and relocks itself.

This can be a number of issues
-low battery (i was doing this out in the cold/dark) I probably drained the battery a good amount)
-no tach? I know some compustar systems do just what mine is doing till you calibrate the signal. No clue how to do it on this though
-no hood pin signal. I'm one of the lucky few that doesn't have an alarm or any wiring for that matter. Can anyone confirm if this would cause the engine to shut off after starting?

I'll be looking into the bypass switch once I can get the damn car to stay on

Also I noticed the guide mentions to press certain buttons to check for error. Codes.. but I have a one button 2 way remote. How the eff do I get the errors?

Thanks for the help guys

Also I don't have a hoodswitch/wiring harness. The installer who put it in my old car stole the extra bits. Anyone have an extra that they can part with?

Fb2017 · 11-14-2018, 09:51 AM

Just a thought.. if someone can chime in that would be great. The cutoff for the remote start is the brake pedal. Is there any connection between the clutch pedal and the brake pedal that would make the remote start think I'm hitting the brake just after the car is started?

Maybe the answer is to code out the clutch safety switch?

If someone can help me with which lines I need to change from the CAS or EWS to disable the switch it would be a huge help!

Fb2017 · 11-14-2018, 10:14 PM

HELLLS YES!

it works! there are a few issues with the takeover feature since the starter was never meant for a car with 3 pedals but it works!!! woo... Here you guys go

I hope this helps keep you all a bit warmer

No modifications needed unless you want to put something to disable the clutch for remote takeover? There is an option to disable it entirely though so the car shuts off when the door is opened!

please share your experiences.. I'd love to know if this works out for you guys as its working for me

clip240@gmail.com · 11-30-2018, 02:01 PM

That's some creative thinking to get around the problem. You can do a manual using a Fortin or Directed module with manual reservation mode and not have to change any coding. You will however have to have a extra copy of key or valet key to give up. Also involves shaving down one of the nubs in the key port if you don't have comfort access to do reservation mode. The special KIBMW part needed is getting harder to find but they are out there. If any one near the seacoast area is looking to have one installed I have a audio shop in Epsom that can do them.

Fb2017 · 12-04-2018, 07:13 AM

I just ordered a Compustar DAS module. I hope that is compatible with the bm1 for safety purposes. I know the module has an input for DAS but might not have the coding/programming to work with it.

Any input is appreciated!

6ixSpd · 12-06-2018, 09:55 PM

Can you still enter accessory mode now with the clutch/brake bypass coding?

Fb2017 · 12-06-2018, 09:56 PM

Yes. Everything works as normal. Only difference is you need to hit the brake to start the car instead of the clutch

Fb2017 · 12-06-2018, 10:02 PM

For the record. To make the remote start to work you have to enable the brake pedal safety switch coding so you need to hit the brake to start it. If you disable the clutch and brake pedal safety switch the remote starter will not start the car as it only pulses the ignition. When the safety switch is disabled you need to hold the start button instead of just doing a quick press.

2.0t03speed · 01-23-2019, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Fb2017

For the record. To make the remote start to work you have to enable the brake pedal safety switch coding so you need to hit the brake to start it. If you disable the clutch and brake pedal safety switch the remote starter will not start the car as it only pulses the ignition. When the safety switch is disabled you need to hold the start button instead of just doing a quick press.

is there a way to do this without having to press the brake to start? just thinking for valet purposes and for any car service work.

mweisdorfer · 01-24-2019, 07:12 AM

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boostd92 · 11-29-2022, 11:28 AM

Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead - had a few questions.

So if I lock my car (no alarm on my E90), then remote start it later, I can use the keyfob unlock button to get in, then when I get in, if I hit the brake pedal will it turn off? Or will it not turn off if the key is in the slot?

Thanks! Doing this on my 06 330i hopefully in the next week or two.

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Fb2017 First Lieutenant 40 Rep 345 Posts Drives: bicycle Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	Ads BM1 Remote start on a 6mt manual Hi guys, I've been doing some digging around in regards to putting a compustar ads bm1 remote starter in my manual 2011 328xi. With days where the mercury drops to minus 25 celsius in the winter its definitely something that I'm hoping to have put in to give my engine enough time to warm up (even slightly) I never leave the car in gear so that bit is not really a concern of mine. Here is my plan thus far. Please share your opinions and suggestions on the install. In terms of starting the car overall aside from 2-3 lines of code in the cas there is not a whole lot different between an automatic and manual car. The starting process mainly varies between which pedal you have to press to start it up. My plan is to install the ads bm1 with all the settings for an automatic. In order to trick the car for pressing in the clutch I am thinking of putting a toggle switch under the dash that essentially shorts the safety switch making the car think the clutch is depressed. Thus when getting out of the car I hit the switch, and when getting into it I turn the switch off. This should eliminate the error codes for a malfunctioning switch as the car will not think the clutch is depressed 24/7 while driving. The basics of the ads bm1 simply do the following - copy the key information and show the car that it is safe to start -trick the car to thinking the brake is depressed -give the command to start the car -use the brake pedal as a kill switch for remote takeover Aside from the switch for the clutch, I understand that the kill switch in the remote starter may not be as effective (as it would be the brake pedal and not the clutch) but I doubt anybody would get far without using the brake pedal. If there is anything that I'm missing please do let me know. My intention is to have as much of a plug and play setup as possible. As it stands I would have to only tap two wires for the clutch and the rest would be using the t harnesses provided with the remote starter. Thanks for your help!
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Fb2017 First Lieutenant 40 Rep 345 Posts Drives: bicycle Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	Okay everyone.. heres the update thus far. All tips and whatnot are welcome. I installed the Ads BM1 into the car without a hitch (not a whole lot of space courtesy of the clutch pedal) As it stands I have been able to sort of remote start the car with me sitting in it with the clutch pedal down by pressing lock 3x. Also got it working via rf. I am also able to lock/unlock the car via two way rf. Very useful as I have no alarm and no stupid beep letting me know its locked Now for the issues! It only starts for a second then shuts off and relocks itself. This can be a number of issues -low battery (i was doing this out in the cold/dark) I probably drained the battery a good amount) -no tach? I know some compustar systems do just what mine is doing till you calibrate the signal. No clue how to do it on this though -no hood pin signal. I'm one of the lucky few that doesn't have an alarm or any wiring for that matter. Can anyone confirm if this would cause the engine to shut off after starting? I'll be looking into the bypass switch once I can get the damn car to stay on Also I noticed the guide mentions to press certain buttons to check for error. Codes.. but I have a one button 2 way remote. How the eff do I get the errors? Thanks for the help guys Also I don't have a hoodswitch/wiring harness. The installer who put it in my old car stole the extra bits. Anyone have an extra that they can part with? Attached Images
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Fb2017 First Lieutenant 40 Rep 345 Posts Drives: bicycle Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	Just a thought.. if someone can chime in that would be great. The cutoff for the remote start is the brake pedal. Is there any connection between the clutch pedal and the brake pedal that would make the remote start think I'm hitting the brake just after the car is started? Maybe the answer is to code out the clutch safety switch? If someone can help me with which lines I need to change from the CAS or EWS to disable the switch it would be a huge help!
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Fb2017 First Lieutenant 40 Rep 345 Posts Drives: bicycle Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	I just ordered a Compustar DAS module. I hope that is compatible with the bm1 for safety purposes. I know the module has an input for DAS but might not have the coding/programming to work with it. Any input is appreciated!
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Fb2017 First Lieutenant 40 Rep 345 Posts Drives: bicycle Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	Yes. Everything works as normal. Only difference is you need to hit the brake to start the car instead of the clutch
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Fb2017 First Lieutenant 40 Rep 345 Posts Drives: bicycle Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	For the record. To make the remote start to work you have to enable the brake pedal safety switch coding so you need to hit the brake to start it. If you disable the clutch and brake pedal safety switch the remote starter will not start the car as it only pulses the ignition. When the safety switch is disabled you need to hold the start button instead of just doing a quick press.
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