[TheMidnightNarwhal]

But I gotta admit I was originally really interested in top brand oil like Motul or Liquiy Moly but didn't get them because they didn't do a 0W-40 LL01. I see Motul does now but still.

Everyone seem to use 5w-40 even in winter, maybe I should switch to that next time? I think the coldest it gets where I live is -30c but that's like, a really cold day not a usual day.

[nsjames]

Originally Posted by 335e92tx

Ah, no. Please dont generalize my statements.
They also recommend zero weight oils. And thats not something that most n54s really need especially when modded.

If you want to get specific, anything that has to make a larger jump from X to Y will use more viscosity improvers. The larger jump it makes the more additive needed. They help the molecules form long chains to increase the viscosity. As the oil experiences shearing, those VI additives break down over time and they dont join up as well. .

And the oil stays thin

Now, where else you want to go ace?

I didn't generalize shit.

you said that if you drive an older n54 below 40 degrees you were going to have problems, then you recommended he get a winter car.

You didn't say anything about the actual question of oil viscosity.

Your words:

And you drive a n54 much below 40degrees F? - I would suggest you find a winter vehicle. As n54s age they arnt very friendly... you will be chasing all kinds of stuff.

as I stated, a 5w oil is good to well below zero.
He has no need to change to a 0w oil just for winter.
these are oil weights accepted and recommended by BMW. You talk about age and modded n54s, did OP say it was modded? no? Then I guess the oil reccomendation by the manufacturer is fine. Age? well tell me then, what has the temperature got to do with aging components failing?

Your entire post was off topic, and useless.

don't get all defensive about it, thems the facts.

[335e92tx]

I said nothing about have problems..
That's what you generalized.

I offered my opinion..


And I really don't care for yours.
Thanks troll

Bye

[MysticRob]

Originally Posted by 335e92tx

I would suggest you find a winter vehicle. As n54s age they arnt very friendly... you will be chasing all kinds of stuff. Better drive it 6K miles out of the year and have $ for your other activities.. ;-)

Originally Posted by 335e92tx

I said nothing about have problems..

Picking nits here, but how is 'chasing all kinds of stuff' different than having problems? OP lives in rural-ish Scotland talking about possibly just changing to a different oil during the colder months and you're on about highly modded cars, shearing, viscosity breakdown, and calling other posters trolls.
Take some time to think through the questions asked, give coherent answers, then give yourself a pat on the back for helping out.

[snedanator]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

But I gotta admit I was originally really interested in top brand oil like Motul or Liquiy Moly but didn't get them because they didn't do a 0W-40 LL01. I see Motul does now but still.

Everyone seem to use 5w-40 even in winter, maybe I should switch to that next time? I think the coldest it gets where I live is -30c but that's like, a really cold day not a usual day.

Yeah as I said I'll try the Molygen or Redline. Neither are LL01 or LL04 for which the UK uses for our standards, it used to bother me about it not being BMW approved but I'm still going ahead to try the top tier oil, it's only not approved cause they havnt payed for the BMW approved cert which is a shit load of money. But at the end of the day it's extremely good oil and u can't go wrong, slightly overkill but that's the way I am. I don't mind paying the money for what it is extra really. I'm FBO with E25 so far, so either of these will do the trick, might even bring the temps down very slightly, hopefully 🙂.

[snedanator]

Oh and yes the Motul X cess is LL01. Heard good things about it if u want the BMW approved stuff :-). Oh, just noticed the liqui moly molygen 5w40 is LL01 🙂

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by snedanator

Oh and yes the Motul X cess is LL01. Heard good things about it if u want the BMW approved stuff :-). Oh, just noticed the liqui moly molygen 5w40 is LL01 ��

Haha I was about to reply they are both LL01 to your other comment.

For myself I will try the liquy moly Leichtlauf High Tech 5w40.

I have an appointment at BMW dealer I'll ask the SA (even tho usually they're not that competent) about 5w-40 vs 0w-40 for the region.

And yeah, the top tier oil only cost about 20$~30$ more for me so I guess why not?

[Rob09msport]

I made same mistake I got x max 0w40 when everyone uses 5w40 . Then I learned and read alot and realized that 5w40 is better and not that much different. I now run bio syn 5w30 which is very close to a 40w and actually thicker at high temp than most 40 weights especially after few miles. Mobil 1 is notorious for dropping weight very fast.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by snedanator

Oh and yes the Motul X cess is LL01. Heard good things about it if u want the BMW approved stuff :-). Oh, just noticed the liqui moly molygen 5w40 is LL01 🙂

I was about to get the Liqui Moly liqui moly leichtlauf which everyone has seem to run and see it's not even 100% Syntehtic, only a blend?

The Motul is the same price but is full synthetic.

Any thoughts?

[snedanator]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

I was about to get the Liqui Moly liqui moly leichtlauf which everyone has seem to run and see it's not even 100% Syntehtic, only a blend?

The Motul is the same price but is full synthetic.

Any thoughts?

The Motul is highly recommended by alot of people, u can't go wrong with that really. The new liqui moly molygen should be on the top of ur list as well. I was going to go for it but as it's a extremely good price, unfortunately it's hard to purchase it for posting to the UK. So I'm going for the Redline 5w40 euro spec which is LL04, ideal for me, a bit expensive tho, but it'll be worth it. Get the liqui moly molygen if u can, but all in all the Motul is an extremely great oil as well🙂

[335e92tx]

Originally Posted by MysticRob

Picking nits here, but how is 'chasing all kinds of stuff' different than having problems? OP lives in rural-ish Scotland talking about possibly just changing to a different oil during the colder months and you're on about highly modded cars, shearing, viscosity breakdown, and calling other posters trolls.
Take some time to think through the questions asked, give coherent answers, then give yourself a pat on the back for helping out.

That's why I said I didnt want to be generalized. I wasn't making a conclusive statement. Just trying to give some long term options. Depending on how OP drives, and if the storage location is heated, it all might be moot.

So you're right, I should have done a better job of getting info first.
But, the difference was, I didnt tell someone they were on crack (or disparage them initially ).. The thread devolved prior to my reply..

:-)

[335e92tx]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

I was about to get the Liqui Moly liqui moly leichtlauf which everyone has seem to run and see it's not even 100% Syntehtic, only a blend?

The Motul is the same price but is full synthetic.

Any thoughts?

This shows the Leichtlauf to be LL1

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Liter-Liq...W/351378257474

The LM 5-30 special tech is a LL1 in US.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by 335e92tx

This shows the Leichtlauf to be LL1

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Liter-Liq...W/351378257474

The LM 5-30 special tech is a LL1 in US.

Yeah I know it was BMW LL01 just surprised it's not fully synthetic.

Unless liquy moly wording is different.

I'll try it next oil change.

[335e92tx]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Yeah I know it was BMW LL01 just surprised it's not fully synthetic.

Unless liquy moly wording is different.

I'll try it next oil change.

I dont think it will pass as LL1 without being full synth.

[rgfinn76]

I used the Molygen for the last 6k miles and didn’t like it at all... at first was ok but then during cold starts would get the lifter tick noise every morning. I live in Florida and it’s not even cold out.

I just switched to Mutol 8100 Xcess and all is smooth as butter again!

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by rgfinn76

I used the Molygen for the last 6k miles and didn’t like it at all... at first was ok but then during cold starts would get the lifter tick noise every morning. I live in Florida and it’s not even cold out.

I just switched to Mutol 8100 Xcess and all is smooth as butter again!

Oh wow uh. Interesting.

My 2 options to go for are the liquy moly or Motul. And Motul even makes a 0W-40 top tier.

[hellokitty]

I now run Redline 5w-30 on my N54 and Pennzoil Euro 5w-40 on the M3.

[snedanator]

Originally Posted by rgfinn76

I used the Molygen for the last 6k miles and didn’t like it at all... at first was ok but then during cold starts would get the lifter tick noise every morning. I live in Florida and it’s not even cold out.

I just switched to Mutol 8100 Xcess and all is smooth as butter again!

Good to know, cheers

[snedanator]

Originally Posted by hellokitty

I now run Redline 5w-30 on my N54 and Pennzoil Euro 5w-40 on the M3.

Think I've my heart set on the 5W40 Redline for my N54. How u finding the Redline in the N54? And what did u have in before?

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

I made a post on bob is the oil guy and everyone states 0w-40 is perfectly fine.

I'm sticking to that extra cold wear protection. Anyways my oil changes are every ~ 7000 miles so the oil shearing isn't to much of an issue.

[Wolf 335]

Can we close this thread.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by Wolf 335

Can we close this thread.

Why?

Not interested in adding more or whatever just get out of it ffs.