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      04-24-2006, 07:59 PM   #111
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Well, it might not be speculation; Greg has an insider.
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      04-24-2006, 08:03 PM   #112
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I know that GreginAz has been right so far and yes, the factories do close in August EXCEPT
I believe the one in Regensberg that builds the E92 will remain open. This is per E90Fleet.

This is probably why the E92 will be available all the way through July, August, September, October, etc.
whereas the E90, among other models, won't actually turn over its model year until September production time.
This is pretty much how its been for some time. During the months of June & July, the E90 will still be an '06 model.

On the other hand, when the 330Ci came out in April of 2000, it was the only car with the 3.0 liter engine
until September. There was a 'lag' time before other cars got that engine. How long that will be this time
is anybody's guess, but its either September or next year...not simultaneously with the E92.
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      04-24-2006, 09:01 PM   #113
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Do you guys remember this?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...5&page=1&pp=22

These are the pictures from the spyshot from california of an E90 turbo in testing. I think the gauge under the RPM is still MPG, but then it wasa development car and the Ms have had temp instead of MPG, just wondering...
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      04-24-2006, 09:15 PM   #114
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Hey Greg, do us a favor and, next time it's convenient, see what your source has on the E91 for 2007. No rush, it would seem we have a while to wait. Thanks!
E91 will be a 328 for 07...didn't get an SOP date.
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      04-24-2006, 09:37 PM   #115
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Definitely slow - your posts have not been confusing one bit. And we shouldn't hold your feet to the fire if you're off be a few weeks. At least you're giving good, directional information - thanks.
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      04-24-2006, 09:51 PM   #116
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E91 will be a 328 for 07...didn't get an SOP date.
Now there's some encouraging words. Hope that holds true for Canada too - we have the same 3.0L 325.

(I'll be ordering a e91 regardless. If it's a 325xiT, I'll be quite happy. If it's a RWD 328iT, I'll be just that much happier. )
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      04-24-2006, 09:55 PM   #117
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After reading Greg posting the same information over and over through several pages I donít get why there is any confusion. I wrote it before on page one, post #20 of this thread and I will write this again, "I can attest from reading his (gregs) posts here and at the other forum that he has been spot on most of the time."

RPM, just choose to believe him or not believe him. Nobody is making you drink Gregís Kool-aid. Its your choice and everyone here respects both of your opinions.

As for Greg getting rude... from my view Greg was very polite (writing things like 'I respectfully disagree') during the first dozen times he answered your questions just to have you tell him he is wrong. Reposting your position in some attempt to make him agree with you isnít going to change anything.

Greg is just giving the best info he knows as of today and if you follow his postings in the past you will see he is right most of the time. Heís right so much I fear if he says the new 335 coupe will cost an arm and a leg I may have believe him. BTW, Greg do you have any info on the 335 and 328 coupe pricing?

RPM, if you want to believe your information then please do. Order your new model any month you like and let us know how it works out. You can always post back here at the end of the year and rub Gregís nose in it if his info is wrong. But so far heís shooting like 90% on his inside info. Like it or not heís been extremely accurate.
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      04-24-2006, 10:09 PM   #118
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Definitely slow - your posts have not been confusing one bit. And we shouldn't hold your feet to the fire if you're off be a few weeks. At least you're giving good, directional information - thanks.
I'm happy to be the messenger of info that is exciting to all of us! Thanks.
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      04-24-2006, 10:11 PM   #119
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Hmmm, I thought he was shooting a perfect game, but 90% is pretty good too

Greg, much appreciation for the info that you have provided everyone. Please don't stop posting!
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      04-24-2006, 10:13 PM   #120
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After reading Greg posting the same information over and over through several pages I donít get why there is any confusion. I wrote it before on page one, post #20 of this thread and I will write this again, "I can attest from reading his (gregs) posts here and at the other forum that he has been spot on most of the time."

RPM, just choose to believe him or not believe him. Nobody is making you drink Gregís Kool-aid. Its your choice and everyone here respects both of your opinions.

As for Greg getting rude... from my view Greg was very polite (writing things like 'I respectfully disagree') during the first dozen times he answered your questions just to have you tell him he is wrong. Reposting your position in some attempt to make him agree with you isnít going to change anything.

Greg is just giving the best info he knows as of today and if you follow his postings in the past you will see he is right most of the time. Heís right so much I fear if he says the new 335 coupe will cost an arm and a leg I may have believe him. BTW, Greg do you have any info on the 335 and 328 coupe pricing?

RPM, if you want to believe your information then please do. Order your new model any month you like and let us know how it works out. You can always post back here at the end of the year and rub Gregís nose in it if his info is wrong. But so far heís shooting like 90% on his inside info. Like it or not heís been extremely accurate.
Thank you, it does take a bit to get me wound up and I did! I'm glad some people got entertainment there too!

As for pricing I have asked and been given back an opinion...nothing on BMW letterhead, but the guess is the 335 will be about 1000-1500 more than the 330 it is replacing...the same should hold true for the 328.
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      04-24-2006, 10:14 PM   #121
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Hmmm, I thought he was shooting a perfect game, but 90% is pretty good too

Greg, much appreciation for the info that you have provided everyone. Please don't stop posting!
Thanks and I won't...again, I am just telling you what I hear after bugging my contact like 5 times a day! Nothing that requires talent of course but exciting nonetheless!
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      04-24-2006, 10:16 PM   #122
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Btw, for another validation of Greg's information, check this out:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=144023
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      04-24-2006, 10:17 PM   #123
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Not to send someone to another forum but there is at least one person posting similar info to Greg (and its not his username on Bimmerfest): http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...4023&p=1689746 It looks like more people than Greg have this info that e90 SOP 328i & 335i is Sept. If people are correct I doubt they will sell í07 325/330ís in July and change to new configuration a few months later. More likely the Ď06 e90 325/330 production will continue until August.

That puts the 325/330 run at a year and a half which is, historically, within range for BMW to make an engine change.
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      04-24-2006, 10:19 PM   #124
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the guess is the 335 will be about 1000-1500 more than the 330 it is replacing...the same should hold true for the 328.
Is this for the sedan or the coupe (replacing the E46 330ci)?

Either ways, its GOOD. Back to the turbo for me!!!
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      04-24-2006, 10:20 PM   #125
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3aficionado, I beat you to it. Sorry.
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      04-24-2006, 10:25 PM   #126
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3aficionado, I beat you to it. Sorry.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

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Is this for the sedan or the coupe (replacing the E46 330ci)?

Either ways, its GOOD. Back to the turbo for me!!!
I hope its for both. BMW will have a hard time convincing the average buyer that the sedan only goes up by $1500 while the coupe gets a larger increase. Special coupe design or not, the average buyer will balk at anything other than an equal increase for the new engine. Of course the coupe should also see the ~$500 increase that the sedan saw when it moved form e46 to e90.
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      04-24-2006, 10:27 PM   #127
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Is this for the sedan or the coupe (replacing the E46 330ci)?

Either ways, its GOOD. Back to the turbo for me!!!
I was asking in the context of the sedan...but, again, it was just his OPINION. Actual pricing is probably still being worked and is a tightly guarded 'secret'.
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      04-24-2006, 10:28 PM   #128
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Wouldn't it be funny if the coupe is therefore at about 40K (the e46 330 ci is 37500 right?), and then all the people making statements like "Do you think BMW is going to give you the turbo for free" have to retract.

EDITED to 40K. I can't add.
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Wouldn't it be funny if the coupe is therefore at about 40K (the e46 330 ci is 37500 right?), and then all the people making statements like "Do you think BMW is going to give you the turbo for free" have to retract.

EDITED to 40K. I can't add.
At least the coupe people can sarcastically say back those people... you think BMW will give the sedan a turbo for free.
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      04-24-2006, 10:39 PM   #130
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Wouldn't it be funny if the coupe is therefore at about 40K (the e46 330 ci is 37500 right?), and then all the people making statements like "Do you think BMW is going to give you the turbo for free" have to retract.

EDITED to 40K. I can't add.
There are people way more knowledgeable than me in engine architecture over at bimmerfest who have stated the new turbo is actually a cheaper engine to make than the current inline 6. It is the holy grail...lighter, more powerful, no lag, on par fuel efficiency, cheaper to produce, etc. Me? I'd really like to drive it first as I'm leery of lag but I have to trust BMW on this one...I couldn't imagine them introducing a sub par turbo to the generally turbo afraid US marketplace.

My $0.02
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      04-24-2006, 11:13 PM   #131
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Yeah, that's what I've heard as well; The turbo does not use the Mg-Al alloy of the N52, and does not have valvetronic. Those two things alone should offset the cost of the turbines and the extra plumbing.

When it comes to lag; how bad is a Porsche 911 Turbo? If Porsche can do it for so many years, I'm sure BMW has done a good job as well.
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      04-24-2006, 11:17 PM   #132
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This is probably redundant, but you guys have seen the video of the E92 on the international BMW site right? It's really nice. Also got my wallpapers.
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