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08-26-2009, 08:50 AM | #1 |
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Exhaust/intake mod = instant warranty death?
Do all the people here with DCIs, catless DPs, and cat-back exhausts not give a hoot about their BMW warranty or do they remove these parts each and every time they get the car serviced?
I'm dying to get a coated DP and intake, to relieve the turbo's workload and move heat out of the turbocharger, but I'm not sure I am ready for a $16,000 gamble. Just wondering what you felt about that. |
08-26-2009, 08:54 AM | #2 |
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For regular maintenance I always kept my mods on. Of course it will vary from dealership but unless you bring your car in for a specific problem that has to do with the turbos or something they wont really care either.
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08-26-2009, 08:57 AM | #3 |
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...... whatever intake I happen to have installed at the time, DPs etc. stay on for routine service. No issues ....... yet.
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08-26-2009, 09:02 AM | #4 |
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Bro I brought my car in for service at Circle BMW (NJ) with all my mods on.
BMW Performance Exhaust Headlights Converted from Halogen to HID Xenon H&R Touring Cup Suspension kit afe intake The only thing they did was complement me on my car looking and sounding good. |
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08-26-2009, 09:06 AM | #6 |
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SA's are puppets ....... the tech/mechanic working on your car makes the determination as to whether or not anything is noted on the car.
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08-26-2009, 09:07 AM | #7 |
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08-26-2009, 09:13 AM | #8 |
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If someone brings their car in due to runnability issues requiring the vehicle be run through diagnostics THEN everything that has been changed on the car that could/might have a remote connection to the problem with the car ...... will be noted. This information is also uploaded to BMWNA automatically as soon as diagnostics are started.
I brought my car in a while back for a CEL issue. Catted DPs, FMIC, exhaust & intake installed. Diagnostics were run, BMWNA informed my dealer that car would have to be returned to stock to perform proper diagnostics. No worries, no problem. BMWNA knows my car intimately at this point. Full warranty remains intact. I installed an O2 simulator and all is well in my world. |
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08-26-2009, 09:16 AM | #9 | |
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That's exactly what the mechanic told me... Basically, if my car threw any engine codes I would have to put the OEM intake on before bringing it in. |
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08-26-2009, 09:25 AM | #10 |
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I saw this message on another forum dedicated to our cars on this same topic:
-------------------------------------- Before: Originally Posted by Boost_Nation going into my dealer today just to have them scan for codes on DME and give me a print out. Going in with PROcede V3 fully installed, a BMS intake, and a cat back. . . . After: Originally Posted by Boost_Nation Went in for an oil change and fuel pump replacement, which there was a recall for anyway. . . . . played it fair and honest with the dealer knowing that one way or another, they would/will find out about my mods. I'm beyond upset right now. They wont do anything to it and have flagged it. . . . seriously, I'm extremely down about this. I've been so anxious, nervous, and worried all these weeks about this situation, and now, the worst outcome that could have happened to me, happened to me. Please, save the "You pay to play," and "you should have known" comments to yourself. I'm not new to this forum or ANY of the issues currently circulating on the forum regarding the 335 and warranty issues. So unless you have something positive or enlightening to say. . . . I'd sincerely appreciate it if you guys kept the rubbing of the issue in my face to a minimum. Try to understand the situation I, as well as others, are in. I wasn't even given a chance. . . . I've talked to Shiv and he's disappointed with this non sense as well. They say nice people finish last, well, I'm sure it's because they let people walk all over them. Should I have taken my procede and intake out and tried to fraud the dealer? Sure, but why. . . . we all know that they can/will find out if it's been tampered with. The techs and I had honest conversations about BMW and their crack down tactics. Its a dead end. I'm sorry about this super emo post guys, but to a die hard enthusiast who has loved his car for over a year now, this is very disturbing news. shit chokes me up. --------------------------------------- |
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08-26-2009, 09:31 AM | #11 |
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DIRECTED TO THE POST ABOVE ........ ^^^^
Going in with a piggyback tune INSTALLED is beyond the realm of common sense. If you have the tune installed at ANY time then you're already "defrauding" the warranty of the vehicle manufacturer the minute you attempt to have the car repaired or serviced due to issues. No-brainer ... |
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08-26-2009, 09:31 AM | #12 |
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Going in with PROcede V3 (or any turbo mod chip) is a bad idea and even the most forgiving mechanic will frown upon it. That is the one MOD that you should NOT have on your car when going in for maintenance.
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08-26-2009, 09:34 AM | #13 | |
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I would always fully remove a piggyback before going in (it's too easy to do). I just wasn't sure about the exhaust/intake business. Those are obviously a little more involved when it comes to removal! |
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08-26-2009, 09:39 AM | #14 |
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ECU flash is non-detectable (so they say). Dinan is known by BMW .......... a piggyback voids EVERYTHING if found out.
Most dealers could care less about catback exhausts or intakes. Downpipes, especially catless, are a definite no-no. Yet, I haven't had any issues. |
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I get so tired of reiterating this every day but alas it is my job.
Your dealer cannot "void your warranty" because of aftermarket parts. It's illegal. Read: Magnusson Moss Warranty Act. They can, however, deny service, if they are able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that your modifications caused the failure. If you are running 20lbs boost and your engine is misfiring, good luck. If you're running coilovers and your subframe cracks... good luck. However, if you have a JB+ and your navigation stops working, or you are running an intake and your high pressure fuel pump goes out... tell them you know your rights and that they will have to prove your modifications caused the failure. With that said, you probably don't want to deal with it. It's a headache and they can be real jerks. Last time I took my car in for service they made me agree to a $150 diagnosis charge contingent upon them determining it was my fault. I was right, it turns out the replacement was covered, but ... yeah. Summary: Your warranty cannot be "voided" JL |
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08-27-2009, 01:47 PM | #19 |
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08-27-2009, 02:34 PM | #21 |
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What's to stop them from voiding your warranty though? You're gonna pay up more money to hire a lawyer and fight them over a warranty which I'm sure their huge pool of lawyers would find some way to win in the end..
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08-27-2009, 06:18 PM | #22 |
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^^^^ nail on the head.
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