Dealer lying about cd changer?

Rob GTI · 11-17-2011, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Singh

Glad to hear yours is working! I have the aux box on the way, should be here tomorrow or Monday. Might want firmware update, i'm contemplating the software update myself through the main dealer so long as they don't encript the ECU for my future plans for a engine re-map!

Do you know what the latest software for the idrive and how you find out which version yours is? I've got nothing to loose with getting it done (as long as it doesn;t cost) as I can't / its next to pointless to map mine!!

I wonder if you get new graphics on the display with the update??

Mr Singh · 11-17-2011, 07:40 AM

I believe you do get new graphics. Checking version you would need to get the main dealer to tell you that I think, unless there is a hidden menu.

moar · 11-17-2011, 07:59 AM

there's a hidden menu

Google it.

Rob GTI · 11-17-2011, 08:27 AM

This looks interesting:-

http://e90.wetpaint.com/page/iDrive+hidden+menus

Mr Singh · 11-21-2011, 12:44 PM

Well I got my little service box thingmebob for the Dension and it still doesn't work. I get light at the end of the fibre cable going into the dension, the ipod charges and shows dension on its screen, the little aux box thingmebob illumintates or flashs blue depending on which switch its in but still doesn't show on the idrive. I believe i will be going back to PCS to get the coding done - again even though they said they enabled CDC.

moar · 11-21-2011, 12:48 PM

Enabled CDC or coded dension?

Who did the fibres?

moar · 11-21-2011, 12:53 PM

Enabled CDC or coded dension?

Who did the fibres?

Mr Singh · 11-21-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by moar

Enabled CDC or coded dension?

Who did the fibres?

I did the fibres. There was only 4 in total on the bottom one connector I added in the 2 from the top one to create the loop.

I'm not sure if they enabled it as a CDC or Dension, I left msg with them but no doubt will call me in tomorrow.

gIzzE · 11-21-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Singh

1. Well I got my little service box thingmebob for the Dension and it still doesn't work.

2. I get light at the end of the fibre cable going into the dension.

3. the ipod charges and shows dension on its screen

4. the little aux box thingmebob illumintates or flashs blue depending on which switch its in but still doesn't show on the idrive.

5. I believe i will be going back to PCS to get the coding done - again even though they said they enabled CDC.

1. That would make no difference, not even needed.

2. I would double check the fibre connections.
Where is it wired, what else you got in there?
I would use the two fibre cables that come with the Dension and wire direct into head unit, one short 12" loop.
Just to test it is working and coded.

3. This means the Dension is getting power and turning on, and it turns on with a signal through MOST which make me think the cabling is fine and the coding is wrong.

4. See above.

5. I would.
Are they using Autologic?
There is an option to add a Dension 500 if they are.

Mr Singh · 11-21-2011, 01:16 PM

1. PCS told me I needed it!

2. I will take a picture of a before and after tomorrow, been meaning to ask are the fibre connections labelled as I couldn't see any labels on them apart from printings which we hard to read.
Yes I might try that tomorrow but assuming my MOST connection is done correct at the back, I already have a red light at the plug end going into the Dension.

3. It is possible the coding is totally wrong, yes. And they told me that with the black box missing it wouldn't work, and that if I connected that it would begin to work.. odd but thats what they said lol.

Yes they are using Autologic, and I mentioned that there should be an option preset to add the Dension 500..

What concerns me is they charged me £70 for 1 hour of there time, and didn't make it work.. mmmmmmmm

moar · 11-21-2011, 01:42 PM

Should be 30 mins labour, and the coding actually takes 10 mins, bad form by them.

Is the radio working in your car? Bluetooth/nav/tv if you have it?

Mr Singh · 11-21-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by moar

Should be 30 mins labour, and the coding actually takes 10 mins, bad form by them.

Is the radio working in your car? Bluetooth/nav/tv if you have it?

Yes all working, no faults to report.

To be fair they tried to find another problem I have with my keyfob buttons not working. I will be calling them tomorrow.

Rob GTI · 11-21-2011, 04:43 PM

Have you checked the arrows on the fibre optics as they are directional?

Also I can confirm that you don't need the AV box connected as mine is not plugged in. Also as mine had a CDC as standard anyway I'd imagine that the CDC coding would work as mine didn't need any coding.

Mr Singh · 11-21-2011, 05:00 PM

Will check tomorrow, but whatever the problem is a independant BMW dealership didn't know which is pretty poo in my books!

Mr Singh · 11-25-2011, 10:50 AM

Update: ALL done and coded! It seems that the installation was right (I never doubted myself for 1 second

) just the coding wasn't done sucessfully for one reason or another. Took about 30 mins and alls good. Its a little slow and stalls but i'll be clearing up the ipod as there just alot of tat on there and lots of repeat copies so a good clear up is in order.

Now, while I was pinging e-mails back and fourth to Dension I managed to get a copy of the Autologic installation and Coding guide!

So along with moar and couple others this thread should become very useful for anyone in the future.

Thanks for anyone who helped along the way

Rob GTI · 11-26-2011, 04:26 AM

Glad you got it sorted in the end.

Bit off topic but did you do the roof rails mod in the end?

Mr Singh · 11-26-2011, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob GTI

Glad you got it sorted in the end.

Bit off topic but did you do the roof rails mod in the end?

On the todo list will do it in the new year.

glancy · 06-08-2012, 05:39 AM

Sorry for Hi Jacking the thread like 6months on or so

I have a BMW 318d saloon, no i-drive just professional radio and factory bluetooth with supposed cd changer prep

I have a dension 500 and was having trouble getting access to the MOST loop, my rear seats don't fold down, Any Suggestions?

Once i have figured that part out, if i wire the power to the feed as the cd changer cabling, will it be powered all the time? i need it powered so the optics pass through the denon and so that the bluetooth kit stays active, but im concerned if i leave it powered up then it will drain my battery and also leave the ipod charging/playing unnecessarily on its own in the car.

Sorry for me sounding lame, im quite technical and am new to coding too.. but from what ive read this all needs to be connected before i code the car, or it won't work..

any help will be truly appreciated, im in Manchester (UK) too.

Thanks

Ric

gIzzE · 06-08-2012, 07:44 AM

You don't pull the rear seats down you pull the bolster in the corner up and off.

The most ring powers it on and off.

glancy · 06-08-2012, 07:59 AM

Thanks, will try that...

glancy · 06-08-2012, 09:38 AM

I dont have the ability to remove the side bolsters at all, it appears they are 1 complete unit.

I did manage to lift the rear seat base up and found a quid! result!

i then went into the boot looking for the bolts at the lower end of the rear seat back that hold the seat. (according to a few guides on the internet - http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...73&postcount=2) - i Couldnt find the bolts though, any ideas

are they in the back of the car and not the boot???

Really sorry for being a newbie...

Dr Dave · 06-08-2012, 01:03 PM

They are fiddly to find - from memory you have to squash the seat down to expose the 10mm headed bolts.

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Mr Singh Banned 63 Rep 773 Posts Drives: E91 330D M Sport Auto Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Milton Keynes iTrader: (3)	Well I got my little service box thingmebob for the Dension and it still doesn't work. I get light at the end of the fibre cable going into the dension, the ipod charges and shows dension on its screen, the little aux box thingmebob illumintates or flashs blue depending on which switch its in but still doesn't show on the idrive. I believe i will be going back to PCS to get the coding done - again even though they said they enabled CDC.
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Mr Singh Banned 63 Rep 773 Posts Drives: E91 330D M Sport Auto Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Milton Keynes iTrader: (3)	1. PCS told me I needed it! 2. I will take a picture of a before and after tomorrow, been meaning to ask are the fibre connections labelled as I couldn't see any labels on them apart from printings which we hard to read. Yes I might try that tomorrow but assuming my MOST connection is done correct at the back, I already have a red light at the plug end going into the Dension. 3. It is possible the coding is totally wrong, yes. And they told me that with the black box missing it wouldn't work, and that if I connected that it would begin to work.. odd but thats what they said lol. Yes they are using Autologic, and I mentioned that there should be an option preset to add the Dension 500.. What concerns me is they charged me £70 for 1 hour of there time, and didn't make it work.. mmmmmmmm
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moar First Lieutenant 14 Rep 391 Posts Drives: 330i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: sheffield uk iTrader: (0)	Should be 30 mins labour, and the coding actually takes 10 mins, bad form by them. Is the radio working in your car? Bluetooth/nav/tv if you have it? __________________ 2007 330i M Sport Saloon Le Mans Blue Active steering - Comfort Access - Bluetooth -TV - Heated Electric Memory Leather Seats - Auto - Logic 7 - Pro Nav - Adaptive Xenon Headlights BMW Assist - iPod integration - Swirl free .
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Rob GTI Private First Class 15 Rep 188 Posts Drives: E91 330i M Sport Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South Wales iTrader: (4)	Have you checked the arrows on the fibre optics as they are directional? Also I can confirm that you don't need the AV box connected as mine is not plugged in. Also as mine had a CDC as standard anyway I'd imagine that the CDC coding would work as mine didn't need any coding.
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Rob GTI Private First Class 15 Rep 188 Posts Drives: E91 330i M Sport Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South Wales iTrader: (4)	Glad you got it sorted in the end. Bit off topic but did you do the roof rails mod in the end?
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glancy Technical Newbie 0 Rep 9 Posts Drives: 318d M Sport Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Manchester, UK iTrader: (0)	Sorry for Hi Jacking the thread like 6months on or so I have a BMW 318d saloon, no i-drive just professional radio and factory bluetooth with supposed cd changer prep I have a dension 500 and was having trouble getting access to the MOST loop, my rear seats don't fold down, Any Suggestions? Once i have figured that part out, if i wire the power to the feed as the cd changer cabling, will it be powered all the time? i need it powered so the optics pass through the denon and so that the bluetooth kit stays active, but im concerned if i leave it powered up then it will drain my battery and also leave the ipod charging/playing unnecessarily on its own in the car. Sorry for me sounding lame, im quite technical and am new to coding too.. but from what ive read this all needs to be connected before i code the car, or it won't work.. any help will be truly appreciated, im in Manchester (UK) too. Thanks Ric
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