[doughboy]

These ETS intercoolers look great, sold via AR design in the US. Read the info and graphs, the results are very good:

http://www.ardesign.info/store/bmw-1...tercooler.html

ETS (Extreme Turbo Systems) seem to do lots of other Turbo stuff for Jap cars, a quick google speaks very highly of them. Their products / fabrication look absolutely top drawer.

http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/

The FMIC fits pre and post LCI cars without any cutting at all.
AR list them at $770 (including connections and charge pipe)
ETS list them at $770 (but having bought from AR before I'd recommend buying from them)

As a starter, Andrew at AR will do us 5 off ETS units at $690 each (if more than 5 then cheaper still)

They will do us catless DPs at $650 pair also, cheaper for more units again.

The ETS units are on 3/4 week lead made to order at present. Shipping costs will be about $100 each for individual shipping to home addresses (more chance of avoiding UK taxes), but he's coming back with more details.

Who, provisionally, is up for what? add your names below: (AR design accept paypal payments, so no worries there)


Doughboy (mike) - 1 Intercooler

[TikoV]

Shame there is nothing for the d's or I'd love to get one. Impressive gains reported :-)

[idnan]

Good work mike

Doughboy (mike) - 1 Intercooler
Idnan - 1 intercooler and 1 set of DP's

[phil200tdi]

Doughboy (mike) - 1 Intercooler

Idnan - 1 intercooler and 1 set of DP's

Phil200tdi - 1 intercooler

[AlanYoro35i]

1.Doughboy (mike) - 1 Intercooler

2.Idnan - 1 intercooler and 1 set of DP's

3.Phil200tdi - 1 intercooler[/QUOTE]

4.YORO35i - intercooler ( can you ask if i can put a deposit til the 28th April to hold it cuz that is when i get my money.)

How much cheaper after 5 person?

[phil200tdi]

I've added a link in 1addicts...

[Mike in Hampshire]

Gents, any idea on fitting times (and therefore cost of fitting)?
I'm guessing this is a job for an experienced indy, yes?

Mike.

[phil200tdi]

See this Video:

For HPF intercooler - no trimming required on ETS!!

[acerboo]

be very aware of having to pay vat and handling charges, i bought some bulbs from the us for £80 and the thieving customs added vat and the shipping company £13-50 added £30 to the bill, gutted wont do that again.

[m1bjr]

After the debarcle I saw with Alufelgen, I am wary of an import group buy.
I would pay more for simplicity and warranty.

Can you do a deal with a UK supplier like Neil?
If so I might be in.

Steve

[doughboy]

Good - 4 so far, 1 more and we're on.

First, i'm not paying any deposits!! We all take the risk.

The idea here is we agree numbers and agree the discount, I then tell
AR who is buying what then we each arrange payment individually with AR design. Once we're paid up (or non returnable deposit) then they ship.

So we have separate purchases with AR but with group discount.

Steve, understand your point, but these aren't wheels, parts i've had frm AR have been VERY well packed for airfreight and their weight (the DPs were buried in so much polystyrene I couldn't find them!) An intercooler is a fairly blunt item, easy to pack out for shipping.

Also point taken about taxes, but the point here is even with taes and shipping and admin charges it sill still be significantly cheaper than the Forge unit retails in the UK. If we're lucky it will be £450 all in and better then the Forge unit at £800+

[doughboy]

Originally Posted by Mike in Hampshire

Gents, any idea on fitting times (and therefore cost of fitting)?
I'm guessing this is a job for an experienced indy, yes?

Mike.

About 2 minutes out and 15 minutes in.

Max 1 hour, but a good indy as always is best.

[phil200tdi]

independent review of the ETS FMIC:

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=506963

Just posted in the n54 tuning forum...

[335iLondon]

Very interested but would need to wait for a few months, holiday booked and on credit card this month

Anyone thinking about the anodised finished one?

[neil@JuicedUpTuning]

Originally Posted by m1bjr

After the debarcle I saw with Alufelgen, I am wary of an import group buy.
I would pay more for simplicity and warranty.

Can you do a deal with a UK supplier like Neil?
If so I might be in.

Steve

The AR DP's from us would come in at £636.19 as we have to add the VAT and Duty then you will have UK Postage on top.

I dont have dealer pricing on the ETS stuff but have requested dealer information from them.

[Mike in Hampshire]

Originally Posted by neil@JuicedUpTuning

I dont have dealer pricing on the ETS stuff but have requested dealer information from them.

Neil, seems to me you have an opportunity here to replace group buy discount with your own. Sorry that sounds like I'm trying to tell you how to run your business....ach, you know what I mean.
If I could order the ETS intercooler from Juiced Up at, say, £600 I'd do so....if it meant avoiding uncertain import taxes. Probably.

Mike.

[neil@JuicedUpTuning]

Originally Posted by Mike in Hampshire

Neil, seems to me you have an opportunity here to replace group buy discount with your own. Sorry that sounds like I'm trying to tell you how to run your business....ach, you know what I mean.
If I could order the ETS intercooler from Juiced Up at, say, £600 I'd do so....if it meant avoiding uncertain import taxes. Probably.

Mike.

No worries Mike...we've been watching the website data for the number people searching for Downpipes. We not quiet ready for stocking as a next day item but we can do orders like this if the price is right.

I'll grab some pricing from ETS and see what I can come up with.

[335iLondon]

+1 I would be alot happier if I could source through uk supplier

[doughboy]

Originally Posted by Mike in Hampshire

Neil, seems to me you have an opportunity here to replace group buy discount with your own. Sorry that sounds like I'm trying to tell you how to run your business....ach, you know what I mean.
If I could order the ETS intercooler from Juiced Up at, say, £600 I'd do so....if it meant avoiding uncertain import taxes. Probably.

Mike.

I can understand your concerns, especially with any defects etc.

Let's assume we get caught for import duties then the total with shipping, taxes and a £20 admin charge will be circa £628.

Still way under the Forge unit UK retail price of £819.

If we don't get caught then its only £474 - a bargain.

Any business importing a batch would defo pay the taxes, so the unit discount needed to nullify that would be massive.

Anyway, we're up to 4 now....any advances?

1.Doughboy - 1 Intercooler
2.Idnan - 1 intercooler and 1 set of DP's
3.Phil200tdi - 1 intercooler
4.YORO35i - intercooler

[m1bjr]

Just watch the declaration form they put on them for customs mate.

If your supplier declares it as a $20 or no value item and its lost, then they won't get the insurance claim for its real value.
And I would be worried who takes the hit in that case, the supplier or me?

If your supplier in the USA can make the assurance they will cover it then I'll buy in with you guys.

[AlanYoro35i]

i just thought of something, please can you ask them to provide tracking number so we can track the items then i be happy bunny =]

[doughboy]

Yoro, no problem with tracking no. that will be 100% for sure.


Steve, still waiting for shipping / insurance options for those that want them, but having never had anything lost or damaged in transit / post ever in my entire life from anywhere EVER I'm not losing sleep about things disappearing!

Understand with the Alufelgen issues, but as said, I know AR pack things properly.