335D Catch Can Install Completed.

vvs · 06-11-2015, 04:00 PM

ive ordered this kit...and anyone thinking of ordering i would definetly reconsider as it guaranteed to fall apart after some heavy driving

135i_vs_ · 06-13-2015, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BB_cuda

135i_vs, would you mind giving me the Advance auto part number for the 90° elbows please? I have a small slit in the upper elbow and wanted to go ahead and order the spare parts. I will do same special order. Just trying to plan ahead
thanks, 'cuda

Here is the link to the elbows. You have to modify them to be installed, or else they won't fit. Or you can PM me for a set of the modified version. I have been working on designing nylon elbows for the 335d; it's R&D is getting expensive...

My elbows still holding up after 14 months. The elbows are the weakest link in this catch can kit. However there is no other alternative option. Good luck finding one. It's cheap and inexpensive to replace once a year if you want peace of mind.

http://m.advanceautoparts.com/mt/sho...n_jtt_redirect

Chief Orman · 06-14-2015, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 135i_vs_

Good observation. Have to visually take a look and see; don't remember there being any damage to the air box from heat.

As I mentioned, upgrading to steel braided hoses next week. This is temporary.

I noticed that because I have the same dent exactly in the same spot

Its caused by the heat from the turbos... Maybe you could wrap some heat reflection tape to those new hoses on that critical spot

That area of the engine is hotter than hell. The plug shield for the MAF has basically melted on my car. Whatever heat shielding BMW has put in place is inadequate. Almost makes one want to figure out a better way to ventilate the engine bay. And no I am not advocating for the painful red air scoops.

GottaBeKD · 06-15-2015, 07:43 AM

I've been chatting with Jess and what we're looking at are Florosilicone hoses. There are a few manufacturers selling 1" elbows.

They are designed for oil applications and can handle high heat pretty well.

There really is nothing to it. A few parts and some time to hook them all up. Total cost of parts should be right around $200 and will provide part numbers so you can source out and replace as you need.

135i_vs_ · 06-15-2015, 07:02 PM

Did a catch can drain today. Since few have been curious about the amount of oil collected, I decided to measure it. It was roughly 25mL for every 3,500 miles, plus the build up on the bottom of the can (see pic and video). I am just glad the catch can system is collecting all this junk. Would hate to be a victim of carbon build up a second time.

Hopefully this is enough to do a Blackstone Oil analysis.

I further looked into my elbows (see pic). After over 22k and over 14+ months, they still look pretty good. One thing to note, as you can see they are very close to the turbo; make sure they are not touching the turbo housing. Make sure there is no direct contact between elbow and turbo housing.

Only guy I know that had an actual failure after 8 months of use, gottabekd.

I don't see why it would not be possible to get more months from them...

This is an extremely tricky area in the engine to work with. It took me some effort to figure out what would actually work.

m9bm · 06-16-2015, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GottaBeKD

I've been chatting with Jess and what we're looking at are Florosilicone hoses. There are a few manufacturers selling 1" elbows.

They are designed for oil applications and can handle high heat pretty well.

There really is nothing to it. A few parts and some time to hook them all up. Total cost of parts should be right around $200 and will provide part numbers so you can source out and replace as you need.

Please provide a list of parts a guide

GottaBeKD · 06-17-2015, 04:53 PM

Some folks have PMd me asking for the part.
Here is a link to one of the elbows we looked at. I have not installed it yet - logistical problems and timing.

http://www.autosiliconehoses.com/sil...oro-hoses.html

Will need to get a reducer as well to get it down to 1/2" for the AN10 hose.

Cheers.

BB_cuda · 06-19-2015, 08:55 AM

GottBeKD, what size are you guys thinking? The dorman part is ~.7" on the inlet end. From your link, 16mm size is small at ~0.630". With regard to the dorman part, I recall having to "ram it home" to get it on the OEM plastic tube. Next size up is 19mm ~0.748". Might be okay with hose clamp.

The opposite end of the dorman part is like 1.2" inner diameter. I'm trying to avoid disassembling the 135i kit. Don't want the cut in the elbow to grow from handling.

GottaBeKD · 06-20-2015, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BB_cuda

GottBeKD, what size are you guys thinking? The dorman part is ~.7" on the inlet end. From your link, 16mm size is small at ~0.630". With regard to the dorman part, I recall having to "ram it home" to get it on the OEM plastic tube. Next size up is 19mm ~0.748". Might be okay with hose clamp.

The opposite end of the dorman part is like 1.2" inner diameter. I'm trying to avoid disassembling the 135i kit. Don't want the cut in the elbow to grow from handling.

The plastic nipple is exactly 1" OD when I measured a few weeks ago. With a clamp it should hold and with silicone I'm reading they are not as flexible so it needs to be a close match so it's not crushed to tighten.

BB_cuda · 06-20-2015, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GottaBeKD

The plastic nipple is exactly 1" OD when I measured a few weeks ago. With a clamp it should hold and with silicone I'm reading they are not as flexible so it needs to be a close match so it's not crushed to tighten.

So, the plan is to use a 25 mm?

m9bm · 06-26-2015, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vvs

ive ordered this kit...and anyone thinking of ordering i would definetly reconsider as it guaranteed to fall apart after some heavy driving

Is this true or not? Any other input, guys?

GottaBeKD · 06-26-2015, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by m9bm

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Originally Posted by vvs

ive ordered this kit...and anyone thinking of ordering i would definetly reconsider as it guaranteed to fall apart after some heavy driving

Is this true or not? Any other input, guys?

Add to the list of falling apart are Greek and Torque. So I would say yes it's pretty much a guarantee to fail.

I have not gotten the elbows from Jess. He's shipping a DDE over to my neck of the woods and they were going to take a ride with it.

simionescud · 07-15-2015, 06:22 PM

what about these guys ?

http://www.hps-siliconehoses.com/hps...pler-hose.html

what size we would need ?

p.s. same problem here with the original elbows ...due to heat ..they don't hold up

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Originally Posted by GottaBeKD

Some folks have PMd me asking for the part.
Here is a link to one of the elbows we looked at. I have not installed it yet - logistical problems and timing.

http://www.autosiliconehoses.com/sil...oro-hoses.html

Will need to get a reducer as well to get it down to 1/2" for the AN10 hose.

Cheers.

simionescud · 07-15-2015, 06:24 PM

is the 1" our option ?

http://www.amazon.com/HPS-Silicone-H...TSEC90-100-BLK

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Originally Posted by simionescud

what about these guys ?

http://www.hps-siliconehoses.com/hps...pler-hose.html

what size we would need ?

p.s. same problem here with the original elbows ...due to heat ..they don't hold up

Lexx.md · 07-16-2015, 10:05 AM

Nice, i have noticed some oil in my intake, was wandering why it is in there, now i know that it might be my next project.

GottaBeKD · 07-23-2015, 07:38 PM

Sorry. Haven't been on lately.
Yes 1" ID is what we need.

simionescud · 07-24-2015, 11:01 AM

I already ordered the 1" elbows from Amazon

and with some cutting ( the original elbow ends are 4 inches long ) and other fitting adaptations (from Menards) I made it to work. Now, hopefully these silicone elbows will maintain the integrity over time. we shall see .....

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Originally Posted by GottaBeKD

Sorry. Haven't been on lately.
Yes 1" ID is what we need.

9mmkungfu · 07-24-2015, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by simionescud

I already ordered the 1" elbows from Amazon

and with some cutting ( the original elbow ends are 4 inches long ) and other fitting adaptations (from Menards) I made it to work. Now, hopefully these silicone elbows will maintain the integrity over time. we shall see .....

Any pics?

simionescud · 07-24-2015, 12:03 PM

Here are the pics

Lexx.md · 08-29-2015, 12:25 PM

Any interest on another Catch Can install?

Have got an used\not working catch can from ebay for $70, it is Billet Technology catch can made for some Dodge or whatever, when arrived, it is fully functional just was tighten with wrench, so they could not open it.

Got two silicone elbows from amazon, the difference with other installs is that i have got a reducing elbow, 1 inch to 3\4.
After that have ordered from McMaster barb connection reducer from 3\4 to 1\2 , and have used bracket from EGR to hold the Catch can.

It was pretty straight forward with some trial and cutting.

In my case i was able to run hoses directly in front of the engine, and not around the intake pipe.

Do you like my solution?

Chief Orman · 08-30-2015, 01:11 AM

Nice!

BB_cuda · 08-31-2015, 04:50 PM

Lex, how about one more pic with lines goi g from brass barbs to silver can, please? It would be great if the snorkel weren't in the way for the photo too. I know I'm getting picky now.

To the rest of you, see how much room tgere is with no EGR cooler in the way. I noticed you repurposed the engine lifting eye location to mount the can. Any chance we can get a closeup of that?

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vvs Enlisted Member 3 Rep 44 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	ive ordered this kit...and anyone thinking of ordering i would definetly reconsider as it guaranteed to fall apart after some heavy driving
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06-15-2015, 07:43 AM	#136
GottaBeKD Lieutenant 136 Rep 456 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: May 2014 Location: Greater Toronto Area iTrader: (0)	I've been chatting with Jess and what we're looking at are Florosilicone hoses. There are a few manufacturers selling 1" elbows. They are designed for oil applications and can handle high heat pretty well. There really is nothing to it. A few parts and some time to hook them all up. Total cost of parts should be right around $200 and will provide part numbers so you can source out and replace as you need.
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135i_vs_ Captain 72 Rep 697 Posts Drives: M5, 135i, 335d, F10 550xi Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	Did a catch can drain today. Since few have been curious about the amount of oil collected, I decided to measure it. It was roughly 25mL for every 3,500 miles, plus the build up on the bottom of the can (see pic and video). I am just glad the catch can system is collecting all this junk. Would hate to be a victim of carbon build up a second time. Hopefully this is enough to do a Blackstone Oil analysis. I further looked into my elbows (see pic). After over 22k and over 14+ months, they still look pretty good. One thing to note, as you can see they are very close to the turbo; make sure they are not touching the turbo housing. Make sure there is no direct contact between elbow and turbo housing. Only guy I know that had an actual failure after 8 months of use, gottabekd. I don't see why it would not be possible to get more months from them... This is an extremely tricky area in the engine to work with. It took me some effort to figure out what would actually work. Attached Images
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06-17-2015, 04:53 PM	#139
GottaBeKD Lieutenant 136 Rep 456 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: May 2014 Location: Greater Toronto Area iTrader: (0)	Some folks have PMd me asking for the part. Here is a link to one of the elbows we looked at. I have not installed it yet - logistical problems and timing. http://www.autosiliconehoses.com/sil...oro-hoses.html Will need to get a reducer as well to get it down to 1/2" for the AN10 hose. Cheers.
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BB_cuda Brigadier General 765 Rep 3,556 Posts Drives: 2011 335D Msport, 2013 X5D Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Clear Lake, Texas iTrader: (0)	GottBeKD, what size are you guys thinking? The dorman part is ~.7" on the inlet end. From your link, 16mm size is small at ~0.630". With regard to the dorman part, I recall having to "ram it home" to get it on the OEM plastic tube. Next size up is 19mm ~0.748". Might be okay with hose clamp. The opposite end of the dorman part is like 1.2" inner diameter. I'm trying to avoid disassembling the 135i kit. Don't want the cut in the elbow to grow from handling.
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Lexx.md Second Lieutenant 38 Rep 291 Posts Drives: e90 335D Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	Nice, i have noticed some oil in my intake, was wandering why it is in there, now i know that it might be my next project.
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07-23-2015, 07:38 PM	#148
GottaBeKD Lieutenant 136 Rep 456 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: May 2014 Location: Greater Toronto Area iTrader: (0)	Sorry. Haven't been on lately. Yes 1" ID is what we need.
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simionescud Enlisted Member 6 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 2011 335d Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Schaumburg IL iTrader: (0)	Here are the pics Attached Images
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08-29-2015, 12:25 PM	#152
Lexx.md Second Lieutenant 38 Rep 291 Posts Drives: e90 335D Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	Any interest on another Catch Can install? Have got an used\not working catch can from ebay for $70, it is Billet Technology catch can made for some Dodge or whatever, when arrived, it is fully functional just was tighten with wrench, so they could not open it. Got two silicone elbows from amazon, the difference with other installs is that i have got a reducing elbow, 1 inch to 3\4. After that have ordered from McMaster barb connection reducer from 3\4 to 1\2 , and have used bracket from EGR to hold the Catch can. It was pretty straight forward with some trial and cutting. In my case i was able to run hoses directly in front of the engine, and not around the intake pipe. Do you like my solution? Attached Images
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Chief Orman Major 671 Rep 1,442 Posts Drives: 335D 2010 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: East Bay, Nor Cal iTrader: (0)	Nice!
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08-31-2015, 04:50 PM	#154
BB_cuda Brigadier General 765 Rep 3,556 Posts Drives: 2011 335D Msport, 2013 X5D Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Clear Lake, Texas iTrader: (0)	Lex, how about one more pic with lines goi g from brass barbs to silver can, please? It would be great if the snorkel weren't in the way for the photo too. I know I'm getting picky now. To the rest of you, see how much room tgere is with no EGR cooler in the way. I noticed you repurposed the engine lifting eye location to mount the can. Any chance we can get a closeup of that?
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