[lux.sh]

Originally Posted by elite330

man that totally sucks! And to think I was thinking about getting the replica hartge lip from this guy.

Have you seen the video of that replica hartge lip that these guys made?
thats different story. this is FIBERGLASS. woohoo, ring your bell?
fiberglass = prone to stress cracks, scratches, blah blah blah.

You would not have this kind of problem with the hartge replica lip these guys made.
When you are buying bigass fiberglass body kit from somebody, you just have to expect some damage to it. Scratches/Rashes are NOTHING. Every manufacturer send out their bodykit saying "its ready to paint", but it never is. You usually have to sand it down alot more and do some prep work. thats with every fiberglass kit out there. Now if you were unlucky enough to get stress cracks on 'em too, you just gotta find a good bodyshop who is capable of doing some basic fiberglass work. try to find a place that they don't overcharge.

[Pretender]

Ryan, Why don't you just made some Kerscher style spoiler, aprons or ACS style rear apron with the material used for the Hartge replica? That way, we don't have to order from Germany.

[lux.sh]

Originally Posted by Pretender

Ryan, Why don't you just made some Kerscher style spoiler, aprons or ACS style rear apron with the material used for the Hartge replica? That way, we don't have to order from Germany.

yeah. that would've been great. pieces are too big i guess?
may not be cost effective either.. kercher stuff isn't so over-priced like hartge.

[18LLC]

Originally Posted by lux.sh

yeah. that would've been great. pieces are too big i guess?
may not be cost effective either.. kercher stuff isn't so over-priced like hartge.

at least no complain for scratch or crack.

[longtran]

Originally Posted by elite330

man that totally sucks! And to think I was thinking about getting the replica hartge lip from this guy.

dude they didnt make this...kerscher did. if they made it it would be 100x better...they made the hartge lip...and you can see the video it damn good quality.

[longtran]

people shuldnt be crying about this....i know all you guys bought this bumper because of yunji's pictures...the difference about this and yunji is that yunji bumper is painted and install...when you guys take it to the body shop it will look like yunji... dont cry now...get it to the body. they can make it look like yunji.

[lux.sh]

Originally Posted by longtran

people shuldnt be crying about this....i know all you guys bought this bumper because of yunji's pictures...the difference about this and yunji is that yunji bumper is painted and install...when you guys take it to the body shop it will look like yunji... dont cry now...get it to the body. they can make it look like yunji.

yo foo, I was expecting exact samething as yujini's!! why isn't mine white!!!

[T-MC-G]

Originally Posted by longtran

people shuldnt be crying about this....i know all you guys bought this bumper because of yunji's pictures...the difference about this and yunji is that yunji bumper is painted and install...when you guys take it to the body shop it will look like yunji... dont cry now...get it to the body. they can make it look like yunji.

Yeah but when I go to three different shops and 2 of them refuse to work on it b/c even if they fix the cracks they think they will come back and can't warr. the paint because of it I get a little upset b/c I have spent close to $1000 for this simple front bumper.

[Pretender]

I don't know about you guys, but my rear bumper looks okay and I have no complaint. Overall, they did the good job, I don't think I need any modification except just sand the edge a little to make it smoother. I have seen the worse fiberglass replica bumpers, spoilers and lips like those on ebay, with the f.cking lousy job.
The only problem I have is DHL. They fcking just held my stuffs at their station for 3 days without delivery until Ryan and I called them today. Then they made after hour delivery, but only my bumper, and they still hold the exhaust system at the facility. I'm freaking mad now.
Ryan, please pm me the tracking numbers again. I left them at work earlier. I will fcking bitch and cuss at DHL tonight, god damn it.

[lux.sh]

maybe you should stop cussing.

[SpanX]

I dont know about anyone else but the cussing didnt make that point any more dramatic.

On a brighter side, I turned mine in at the body shop finally and they said that the bumper did need a little work but it was one of the better shape ones they have seen. So I am happy with the whole ordeal.

Lets also all keep in mind, that the condition of the bumpers and parts fall on Kerscher, not necessarily Ryan and/or DTM. He did his job by getting us the hook up and running the 3 ring circus that comes with organizing a group buy and keepin all us yuppies happy.

Thanks again Ryan for the GB, hope to do business in the future. Will post pics of the bumper once painted for all to see how well it WILL turn out.

[Pretender]

Anyway, for those who complained Ryan, next time just go get them on your own. He just did you guys a favor with the GB.

[m to the power of 3]

Originally Posted by Pretender

Anyway, for those who complained Ryan, next time just go get them on your own. He just did you guys a favor with the GB.

My fault I thought Ryan made the bumper. But since when is it not OK to expect good quality? T-MC-G paid good money for the bumper and is upset that its all messed up. Ryan obviously not to blame since he's just the middle man but at least kerscher is.

[T-MC-G]

Originally Posted by elite330

My fault I thought Ryan make the bumper. But since when is it not OK to expect good quality? T-MC-G paid good money for the bumper and is upset that its all messed up. Ryan obviously not to blame since he's just the middle man but at least kerscher is.

OK, but that is why I paid for a middle-man to make money along the way and didn't order direct. Any middle-man makes money for helping shipments along, but needs to step up to the plate when things go wrong. That is how it works.

[SpanX]

Originally Posted by T-MC-G

OK, but that is why I paid for a middle-man to make money along the way and didn't order direct. Any middle-man makes money for helping shipments along, but needs to step up to the plate when things go wrong. That is how it works.

Have you ever ordered an aftermarket bumper before? Because I havent. And not that its an excuse to have a crappy bumper, but the shops I have talked to, included Ryan himself, said that most of these fiberglass bumpers that come in are in worse shape than these Kerscher. I was shocked to hear that because I am the same way - I would expect a quality product. But knowing now that these are actually better off than most - where do I complain?

[Pretender]

Originally Posted by SpanX

Have you ever ordered an aftermarket bumper before? Because I havent. And not that its an excuse to have a crappy bumper, but the shops I have talked to, included Ryan himself, said that most of these fiberglass bumpers that come in are in worse shape than these Kerscher. I was shocked to hear that because I am the same way - I would expect a quality product. But knowing now that these are actually better off than most - where do I complain?

Agreed. I ordered a fiberglass Hartge replica front lip and the rear spoiler and am telling you that the quality of this Kerscher one is much better. If you guys need the picture of these stuffs to compare, I still can take some since they're still in my garage.

[lux.sh]

Originally Posted by T-MC-G

OK, but that is why I paid for a middle-man to make money along the way and didn't order direct. Any middle-man makes money for helping shipments along, but needs to step up to the plate when things go wrong. That is how it works.

no middle man doesn't have to do jack. thats how it is. been there, done that.

[m to the power of 3]

Do you think kerscher will take back the bumper and exchange it for a better one?

[T-MC-G]

Originally Posted by elite330

Do you think kerscher will take back the bumper and exchange it for a better one?

Ryan told me Kerscher doesn't have a warrenty, you get what you get.

[tl_boy]

DTMRyan:

Any thoughts of making the Bretyon front bumper, or selling it? If OEM is made of fiberglass, I would prefer you make it as you have done with the hartge front lip (which i think was a good idea on your part - from those of us with fiberglass experience, it sucks).

If you haven't seen the breyton, i think you will be pleased, as well as most members on here. it is not too agressive, and keeps the squarish nature of the front that is so bmw.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=111673

Let me know, thanks.

[Pretender]

I don't like the Breyton lip. It doesn't look aggressive to me.

[LWL]

Originally Posted by Pretender

I don't like the Breyton lip. It doesn't look aggressive to me.

Hey Pretender,

Did you install your quad exhaust yet?