AmazonBasics Oil in n54?

Vulcan50 · 11-08-2019, 10:39 AM

Castrol edge 5w-40 LL-01 <$25/5qt

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-E...5-QT/145736795

Jklad · 11-08-2019, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by iqraceworks

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Originally Posted by Jklad

The things people do to try and save money - would not recommend putting any old oil in this engine. When I switched to motul from bmw oil it resulted in oil temps staying a bit colder, and taking longer to hit 240f as well. I would recommend it, or any of the reputable brands that make a true synthetic like redline, liquimoly, etc. that also have the proper cert. in the past, certain grades of Mobil 1 synthetic oil were not actually true synthetic, so just get the right stuff.

Not that I'm doubting you.....but unless you have some hard data including engine load, rpm, ambient temps, intake temps, ect, ect........it's hard to really say with confidence that your choice in oil would affect those things.

I don't have the capability to provide hard data on this. I'm pretty confident in my anecdotal observations though, at the time was driving the same route in the same weather for years. The bmw oil always got up to temp 240-250 faster than when I switched to motul, while the motul tends to take longer to get to that level. Others over the years have noticed similar results between different brands as well.

Cm452 · 11-12-2019, 06:32 PM

M1 isn't liked on BITOG, nor does it do well with NOACC 4 ball wear test. Shit oil for the price IMO. Rotella T6 is good and cheap, but shear thins after 5k or so. It's rich in ZDDP, which is great for wear but bad for cats if you burn oil...castrol edge 5w40, T6, liquimolly, and pentosin are the only brands I'd throw in Hi-Po engine.

iqraceworks · 11-13-2019, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cm452

M1 isn't liked on BITOG, nor does it do well with NOACC 4 ball wear test. Shit oil for the price IMO. Rotella T6 is good and cheap, but shear thins after 5k or so. It's rich in ZDDP, which is great for wear but bad for cats if you burn oil...castrol edge 5w40, T6, liquimolly, and pentosin are the only brands I'd throw in Hi-Po engine.

I'm running Rotella T6.....so far it's been great. It's nice because I also use it in my Diesel truck....so I have a bunch of it laying around.

TheMidnightNarwhal · 11-13-2019, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cm452

M1 isn't liked on BITOG, nor does it do well with NOACC 4 ball wear test. Shit oil for the price IMO. Rotella T6 is good and cheap, but shear thins after 5k or so. It's rich in ZDDP, which is great for wear but bad for cats if you burn oil...castrol edge 5w40, T6, liquimolly, and pentosin are the only brands I'd throw in Hi-Po engine.

I would argue Pennzoil Euro Plat is good to. I used Castrol before but now I switched to Pennzoil and BITOG forums say it was as good.

Wolf 335 · 11-13-2019, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vulcan50

Castrol edge 5w-40 LL-01 <$25/5qt

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-E...5-QT/145736795

This is not a bmw approved LL-01 certification

9krpmrx8 · 11-13-2019, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vulcan50

Castrol edge 5w-40 LL-01 <$25/5qt

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-E...5-QT/145736795

You should be using the A3 Euro, it's the same price (or cheaper on Amazon Prime, $22 shipped).

NoGuru · 11-13-2019, 11:47 AM

Yes, I would gamble with the life of my engine to save a couple bucks. NO WAY.

nyt · 11-13-2019, 01:15 PM

I'm currently running the RLI 85343 Bio SynXtra HD Plus Super High Performance 5w40. If not that, I'd run Amsoil. Blackstone samples report lower than average wear for the platform while I was running the car very hard. At 5k miles the oil still had a lot of life left in it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HWNASRI/

11-15-2019, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nyt

I'm currently running the RLI 85343 Bio SynXtra HD Plus Super High Performance 5w40. If not that, I'd run Amsoil. Blackstone samples report lower than average wear for the platform while I was running the car very hard. At 5k miles the oil still had a lot of life left in it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HWNASRI/

Yeah, that stuff is great...especially when it comes to holding up to fuel dilution.

After looking through more than a few UOAs though, there wasn't much difference between RLI and T6 in most use cases...given that, it's tough to justify the extra cost when you can get a jug of the Rotella for ~$13/gallon after rebate.

hellokitty · 11-16-2019, 01:45 AM

I’d use Castrol 0w-40 over amazon basics for sure. My UOA came back really nice with castrol

335e92tx · 12-15-2019, 02:49 PM

Cant beat pentosin for the cost and protection

https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/201...-test-ranking/

V8bait · 12-15-2019, 10:16 PM

Castrol edge 0w40 is literally the same price as basics

https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-03101...6469768&sr=8-3

Jeef · 12-16-2019, 09:14 AM

how often are you changing oil and do you run ethanol ?

12-18-2019, 07:13 PM

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Cant beat pentosin for the cost and protection

https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/201...-test-ranking/

If we're talkin about street cars, sure you can

335e92tx · 12-18-2019, 07:16 PM

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If we're talkin about street cars, sure you can

well, its better than motul and liquimoly. At least by everything I see - as the test shows.

I agree its not as inexpensive as Amazon.. but Im not low bucking it that much.

nissubaru · 12-20-2019, 08:58 AM

Everyone else pretty much already said it but you can find better oil for the same price or cheaper so why bother? I would absolutely not run it in my N54, even if Rotella T6 wasn't around for the price I would still probably run Motul Xcess or Liquid Moly.

Even on my girlfriends Rav4 I've found it's cheaper to buy Supertech oil (Walmart brand) for $15 for 5 quarts. AmazonBasics oil is $23.

335e92tx · 12-20-2019, 07:00 PM

Like I said, I dont need to low buck it. FCP has petrosin for about 50$ with filter and my IS only has 45K miles and doesnt use oil - I wanna keep it that way.

I am also looking for more wear protection specifically bc I had some high iron results in oil analysis.

I wasnt following this thread until recently and also relatively recently came across the oil test of the petrosin.

And as far as use in a toyota, many of them have small oil capacity. Because of this the oil runs much hotter and it can bake around the oil rings and cause sticking.

I would look for something that had a high flash point. So it kinda of depends on what condition each motor might exhibit.

WTF? · 12-21-2019, 07:24 PM

I ran the Amazon Oil in my Lsx turbo Foxbody. The oil pressure would drop considerably after a few pulls. Never tried it in my N54...but I'm back to Rotella in the Mustang.

9krpmrx8 · 12-26-2019, 02:26 PM

In my last two cars M1 0W-40 always tested better than Rotella T6. Rotella T6 was still fine but people hype it up a bit too much. I have run M1 0W-40 for many years on my 335i and it has always tested great and now I run Castrol A3 Euro 0W-40 and it also tests great.

Test your oil and decide what you want but how often you change it is far more important than what you use. I run Castrol because it's $20.00-$25.00 shipped so I can change it anytime I get bored and feel like doing it and sometimes that is as soon as every 2000 miles. I just rolled 110,000 miles on my 2011 E90 N55 and a recent compression test resulted in an average of 210psi across all 6 cylinders.

I would not hesitate to use the Amazon Basics 0W-40.

11-08-2019, 10:39 AM	#23
Vulcan50 Captain 433 Rep 780 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Peoria, IL iTrader: (0)	Castrol edge 5w-40 LL-01 <$25/5qt https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-E...5-QT/145736795
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Cm452 Private 8 Rep 80 Posts Drives: 08 335XI, stock...for now Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Boston Metro iTrader: (0)	M1 isn't liked on BITOG, nor does it do well with NOACC 4 ball wear test. Shit oil for the price IMO. Rotella T6 is good and cheap, but shear thins after 5k or so. It's rich in ZDDP, which is great for wear but bad for cats if you burn oil...castrol edge 5w40, T6, liquimolly, and pentosin are the only brands I'd throw in Hi-Po engine.
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nyt Second Lieutenant 128 Rep 256 Posts Drives: 2010 335xi Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (0)	I'm currently running the RLI 85343 Bio SynXtra HD Plus Super High Performance 5w40. If not that, I'd run Amsoil. Blackstone samples report lower than average wear for the platform while I was running the car very hard. At 5k miles the oil still had a lot of life left in it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HWNASRI/
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hellokitty Brigadier General 2896 Rep 3,726 Posts Drives: '17 M3 ZCP DCT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern California iTrader: (2)	I’d use Castrol 0w-40 over amazon basics for sure. My UOA came back really nice with castrol
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335e92tx ahat 1036 Rep 2,592 Posts Drives: Was '07-335e92 - Now '13-335IS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas iTrader: (6)	Cant beat pentosin for the cost and protection https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/201...-test-ranking/ __________________ '13 335IS N54 (1 of 373 LeMans Blue out of 3597 total production e92)- Grey interior (1 of 24 in LMB with any trans- 1 of 14 with DCT)-MODS -MFactory LSD/MHD-BQ custom Tune/ATM-IC/AFE Momentum GT Intake/Konis/Mfront&HeimJoint Rear rods&arms/Brembos. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lo6aHZRo7XqtPkhL8
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V8bait Lieutenant 406 Rep 574 Posts Drives: e92 335i 6mt Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Houston iTrader: (1)	Castrol edge 0w40 is literally the same price as basics https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-03101...6469768&sr=8-3
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Jeef Lieutenant Colonel 388 Rep 1,945 Posts Drives: AW E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (6)	how often are you changing oil and do you run ethanol ?
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12-20-2019, 08:58 AM	#39
nissubaru Lieutenant 233 Rep 564 Posts Drives: 09 335i MSport + 1990 300ZX TT Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	Everyone else pretty much already said it but you can find better oil for the same price or cheaper so why bother? I would absolutely not run it in my N54, even if Rotella T6 wasn't around for the price I would still probably run Motul Xcess or Liquid Moly. Even on my girlfriends Rav4 I've found it's cheaper to buy Supertech oil (Walmart brand) for $15 for 5 quarts. AmazonBasics oil is $23.
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335e92tx ahat 1036 Rep 2,592 Posts Drives: Was '07-335e92 - Now '13-335IS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas iTrader: (6)	Like I said, I dont need to low buck it. FCP has petrosin for about 50$ with filter and my IS only has 45K miles and doesnt use oil - I wanna keep it that way. I am also looking for more wear protection specifically bc I had some high iron results in oil analysis. I wasnt following this thread until recently and also relatively recently came across the oil test of the petrosin. And as far as use in a toyota, many of them have small oil capacity. Because of this the oil runs much hotter and it can bake around the oil rings and cause sticking. I would look for something that had a high flash point. So it kinda of depends on what condition each motor might exhibit. __________________ '13 335IS N54 (1 of 373 LeMans Blue out of 3597 total production e92)- Grey interior (1 of 24 in LMB with any trans- 1 of 14 with DCT)-MODS -MFactory LSD/MHD-BQ custom Tune/ATM-IC/AFE Momentum GT Intake/Konis/Mfront&HeimJoint Rear rods&arms/Brembos. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lo6aHZRo7XqtPkhL8 Last edited by 335e92tx; 12-20-2019 at 07:05 PM..
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WTF? Giggidy.. 52 Rep 135 Posts Drives: 2010 335i Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Houston Tx iTrader: (0)	I ran the Amazon Oil in my Lsx turbo Foxbody. The oil pressure would drop considerably after a few pulls. Never tried it in my N54...but I'm back to Rotella in the Mustang.
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12-26-2019, 02:26 PM	#42
9krpmrx8 Clean is the new cool, keep it that way. 808 Rep 1,685 Posts Drives: 11' Alpine White 335i Sedan Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Antonio, Texas iTrader: (0)	In my last two cars M1 0W-40 always tested better than Rotella T6. Rotella T6 was still fine but people hype it up a bit too much. I have run M1 0W-40 for many years on my 335i and it has always tested great and now I run Castrol A3 Euro 0W-40 and it also tests great. Test your oil and decide what you want but how often you change it is far more important than what you use. I run Castrol because it's $20.00-$25.00 shipped so I can change it anytime I get bored and feel like doing it and sometimes that is as soon as every 2000 miles. I just rolled 110,000 miles on my 2011 E90 N55 and a recent compression test resulted in an average of 210psi across all 6 cylinders. I would not hesitate to use the Amazon Basics 0W-40. __________________ 2011 335i, FBO, N55+ Turbo, full E85, S55 intercooler, etc. 2015 X5 35i Xdrive Last edited by 9krpmrx8; 12-26-2019 at 02:37 PM..
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