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      06-27-2020, 12:14 PM   #23
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I'm terrified of someone running into me. I've had this wagon for ages and I love it. They were rare and are now all being ruined by kids. It's basically irreplaceable at this point.
Same its sad that i almost want to get out of this platform which i absolutely love just because of these kids that keep buying and ruining them.
I dont even know what i would replace mine with as a M4 is a bit out of my budget, same with the C7 and there isnt much else i see out there comparable in all aspects
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Cool story though not really relevant to what I said. The point, since you missed it, was that new the 335i was around $50k not $250k plus. Everyone acts like it's a cardinal sin to do a mod that changes the look of the shift knob. With the exception of a $200 performance knob or a fake dct knob.

Also if a manual knob = a manual poser, then why doesn't a DCT knob = a DCT poser?

Again the Lamborghini point was a reference to the perceived value of the car, not the transmission type.
The point is missed, because the price of the car or the perceived badge-whoreness of the car has nothing to do with putting a manual shift knob on an automatic transmission'd car; I think it is just stupid, either for a BMW E90 or a Ford Focus. And no less stupid than if I fitted a set of DCT paddles on any of my manual transmission'd cars. Also, it sounds like adapting a manual transmission shift knob onto an automatic, disables the reverse lockout function. I'll go further that hacking such a mod, which disables a safety feature, makes it even more stupid in my opinion.

Upgrade to a nicer automatic knob, I'd have no issue with that at all. Just as no one should have an issue that I change all of my manual trans cars from a POS BMW knob to a nice leather-covered Momo manual trans knob. I do it mostly because BMW manual trans knobs eventually break inside and pop off in your hand shifting into second; a lesson I learned 30 years ago in my E30.

Anyway, why are you taking up a fight about it?
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."

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HAHAHAHHA this is pathetic. These cars are too cheap. Should've just bought the manual.

I am so glad the 1 series community isn't like this (at least the US-based one)
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tangent rag... but this MT vs AT thing is almost cute. I drove a MT in Houston area traffic for 20 years so I know and like manuals. However, when buying my 1 Series I found an AT that was the right car and actually was leaning toward AT.

Then I come on here and it's my willy is bigger than yours b/c I have a MT. Someone was looking for advice on a car and the advice given was 'if you're an enthusiast you'll get a MT'. I thought all the hours crawling around under my car in a miserable hot garage upgrading the suspension made me an enthusiast but I guess not .
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tangent rag... but this MT vs AT thing is almost cute. I drove a MT in Houston area traffic for 20 years so I know and like manuals. However, when buying my 1 Series I found an AT that was the right car and actually was leaning toward AT.

Then I come on here and it's my willy is bigger than yours b/c I have a MT. Someone was looking for advice on a car and the advice given was 'if you're an enthusiast you'll get a MT'. I thought all the hours crawling around under my car in a miserable hot garage upgrading the suspension made me an enthusiast but I guess not .
Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission.

Just sayin'
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tangent rag... but this MT vs AT thing is almost cute. I drove a MT in Houston area traffic for 20 years so I know and like manuals. However, when buying my 1 Series I found an AT that was the right car and actually was leaning toward AT.

Then I come on here and it's my willy is bigger than yours b/c I have a MT. Someone was looking for advice on a car and the advice given was 'if you're an enthusiast you'll get a MT'. I thought all the hours crawling around under my car in a miserable hot garage upgrading the suspension made me an enthusiast but I guess not .
I only saw one comment saying he shouldve got a manual. No one is bashing the auto. Only how dumb it is to put a manual shift knob on an auto. Especially when there is a great looking alternative from bmw that keeps factory function
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HAHAHAHHA this is pathetic. These cars are too cheap. Should've just bought the manual.

I am so glad the 1 series community isn't like this (at least the US-based one)
the 1 series is an $8k car...
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the 1 series is an $8k car...
And yet the forum is a million times better than the E90 one.
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And yet the forum is a million times better than the E90 one.
Because its not full of teenagers trying to put manual trans shift knobs on automatic trans cars
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I think he caught a bit more hate than he probably should for that question, but whatever. It's just a shift knob, it'll still look like an automatic, and the truth is that despite manuals being more "pure" and desirable in many cases, there's nothing to be ashamed about having an auto. The auto shift knob is a bit cheap feeling anyway.

Yeah the "kids" (I say this as if I'm not a "kid") ruining these cars is a good point, and it's becoming somewhat common to see e90s run down to absolute shit, but I don't think it takes away from the efforts that people like me, and many of you others, put into maintaining these excellent cars... "clean" e90s still stand out just like they did off the showroom floor, regardless of what the others look like. I too am afraid of someone hitting mine, I feel as if I may not find another that's the same.
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I only saw one comment saying he shouldve got a manual. No one is bashing the auto. Only how dumb it is to put a manual shift knob on an auto. Especially when there is a great looking alternative from bmw that keeps factory function
I know. That's why I said it was a tangent rag. Was just trying to elicit an obnoxious response.
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the 1 series is an $8k car...
I know. That's why I said it was a tangent rag. Was just trying to elicit an obnoxious response - like this one.
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Same its sad that i almost want to get out of this platform which i absolutely love just because of these kids that keep buying and ruining them.
I dont even know what i would replace mine with as a M4 is a bit out of my budget, same with the C7 and there isnt much else i see out there comparable in all aspects
I don't really care about the community, just that I know the odds of me finding another cherry wagon is basically impossible. I'll likely be getting a Volvo.
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People, get over yourselves. It's just a damn shift knob and it's his car to do what he wants with. He didn't come here asking for your opinion of it, so if you can't answer the technical questions he asked...
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If he didn't want to be subjected to ridicule, then don't post stupid crap on a public forum.
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I don't really care about the community, just that I know the odds of me finding another cherry wagon is basically impossible. I'll likely be getting a Volvo.
And you should care about the community. Can make all the difference for DIY repairs and whether you'll be paying through the nose to your dealer or being able to get the stuff done yourself with somebody else already describing all the gotchas for you. Makes all the difference when you break some parts because the public service manual was written and published because they had to have it published and have separate private dealer repair materials and then you have to wait for that part getting shipped from Germany.
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And yet the forum is a million times better than the E90 one.
Oh please, you guys have some teenagers trying to turbo their 128is and they come here to ask questions because 1 series forum is a lot smaller and it's harder to get your question answered.
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Obviously no one here has seen any of the Kindig cars with a manual looking shifter that has P, R, N, D and whatever else on the knob. Those cars are way north of 100 K after Dave Kindig is through with them.
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Lmao can you build me a bridge so i can get over your river of tears?
I told him to get the more modern 335is dct shifter. It looks alot better and it isnt faking it to look like a manual.
Maybe try to come up with a better analogy such as a 328i putting a 335i dual exhaust and bumper on to look like a 335i. Which weve seen on here before.
Oh and as stated already modern lambos are auto. Who cares if his car is auto. Just dont try to make it look like its a manual when it isnt.
Its his car and he can do whatever he wants, you got no saying what he can and can't do. People like you need to chill out a bit and lower your self and listen to your self a bit. Your saying to install a dct shifter when he doesn't have a dct transmission. So if he wants a manual shifter let him get it, I think it will look good.
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the 1 series is an $8k car...
More than your secondary oil cooled shit box.
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Its his car and he can do whatever he wants, you got no saying what he can and can't do. People like you need to chill out a bit and lower your self and listen to your self a bit. Your saying to install a dct shifter when he doesn't have a dct transmission. So if he wants a manual shifter let him get it, I think it will look good.
A DCT shifter is still an automatic shifter. He’ll retain factory safety features too such as reverse lockout. It looks like it actually belongs on the car and isnt idiotic looking.
If you come on this or any other forum you are asking for opinions otherwise stay off and do whatever you want. Im not gonna hand out participation trophies just because someone has a dumb idea.
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