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      05-06-2010, 04:40 PM   #793
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Hmm....your TCU is the one that came with the car, right? That's weird....

Sounds like you changed all the things I would have guessed...not sure what's up.
Yes, it is the original TCU.
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I think you must upgrade software you TCU by winkfp
I have same problem witn AMP logic 7 and have resolv with flash amplificator ecu
Thanks... that's what I will be trying soon.
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- BMW Search is part of the Assist $200 Convenience Plan
- a GSM TCU with the latest firmware is required for this feature to be supported
- for this feature to be enabled in a retrofit CIC the coding requires to change the Vehicle Order temporarily by adding options 6VA, 615 and 616, and coding the CIC with this new VO. This can be done with NCS Expert and most probably Autologic.
- Google Maps "send to car" still does not work. My guess is that my TCU needs to be coded to enable MyInfo, as the CIC already has MyInfo active.

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Notes:

- BMW Search is part of the Assist $200 Convenience Plan
- a GSM TCU with the latest firmware is required for this feature to be supported
- for this feature to be enabled in a retrofit CIC the coding requires to change the Vehicle Order temporarily by adding options 6VA, 615 and 616, and coding the CIC with this new VO. This can be done with NCS Expert and most probably Autologic.
- Google Maps "send to car" still does not work. My guess is that my TCU needs to be coded to enable MyInfo, as the CIC already has MyInfo active.

Very nice!

I wonder what varibles that VO is changing in the coding data. Nice work.
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Very nice!

I wonder what varibles that VO is changing in the coding data. Nice work.
Options 615 and 616 are Online services, I don't know what is 6VA but I was told that the CIC-equipped cars have that option by default.

This coding was by luck... I saw those Online services options in the ordering guide, just tried them in the VO instead of trying to change individual variables in the CIC and that was it. All the CIC online services variables became active after the coding by VO, so those were the variables to enable.

The TCU had all the software ready for Online Services, but I think that its MyInfo variable is not active.

By the way, I saw a TCU variable list from another car and there is a Bluetooth Audio variable there. There's a BT Audio variable as well in the CIC and when active it shows up in the menu under the iPod/USB selection. That's something else that I will try...
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What if all I want is the upgraded 1280x480 screen? Better yet..........

I have a July/2008 335i Convertible (fully loaded)

My goal is to input video via my iPhone 3GS. So far EAS seems to have the best module called VSM.


Most iPhone users will connect via the iPhone composite video cable (yellow RCA)

I'd like to try and use the higher resolution "component" iPhone video cable instead. (480P I think) The EAS VSM supports VGA input (open wire, no connector) I'm thinking maybe I could convert the Component output to VGA possibly. The question I have is what resolution is my 2008 iDrive screen? If it's piss poor and much lower than 1280 x 480 maybe I can look into replacing the screen? (if it's the same save and will fit in the stock window) If not, I'd like to ask the experts here what my resolution is. That way I can pick an appliance that will convert component to the correct VGA output. If my 2008 screen is too low of a resolution to bother with VGA, (and I cant upgrade it to the 1280 x 480 one) I'll just keep things simple with composite. I want to know all my options and what it's capable of though first.
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Options 615 and 616 are Online services, I don't know what is 6VA but I was told that the CIC-equipped cars have that option by default.

This coding was by luck... I saw those Online services options in the ordering guide, just tried them in the VO instead of trying to change individual variables in the CIC and that was it. All the CIC online services variables became active after the coding by VO, so those were the variables to enable.

The TCU had all the software ready for Online Services, but I think that its MyInfo variable is not active.

By the way, I saw a TCU variable list from another car and there is a Bluetooth Audio variable there. There's a BT Audio variable as well in the CIC and when active it shows up in the menu under the iPod/USB selection. That's something else that I will try...


Not long ago it was so unreal to come that far with this retrofit...
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Options 615 and 616 are Online services, I don't know what is 6VA but I was told that the CIC-equipped cars have that option by default.

This coding was by luck... I saw those Online services options in the ordering guide, just tried them in the VO instead of trying to change individual variables in the CIC and that was it. All the CIC online services variables became active after the coding by VO, so those were the variables to enable.

The TCU had all the software ready for Online Services, but I think that its MyInfo variable is not active.

By the way, I saw a TCU variable list from another car and there is a Bluetooth Audio variable there. There's a BT Audio variable as well in the CIC and when active it shows up in the menu under the iPod/USB selection. That's something else that I will try...
Oh boy, that's awesome! I really need to get one and start playing around! You've figured out a lot!

BTW, are you able to code the TCU while it's still in the car? I know Patrys mentioned a few things about that.
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Oh boy, that's awesome! I really need to get one and start playing around! You've figured out a lot!

BTW, are you able to code the TCU while it's still in the car? I know Patrys mentioned a few things about that.
Autologic will try to code my TCU for MyInfo (I will ask for BT Audio as well); my D-CAN interface seems not to like my TCU.
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Options 615 and 616 are Online services, I don't know what is 6VA but I was told that the CIC-equipped cars have that option by default.

This coding was by luck... I saw those Online services options in the ordering guide, just tried them in the VO instead of trying to change individual variables in the CIC and that was it. All the CIC online services variables became active after the coding by VO, so those were the variables to enable.

The TCU had all the software ready for Online Services, but I think that its MyInfo variable is not active.

By the way, I saw a TCU variable list from another car and there is a Bluetooth Audio variable there. There's a BT Audio variable as well in the CIC and when active it shows up in the menu under the iPod/USB selection. That's something else that I will try...
There is an option S6VAA which reads at "NAVIGATION SYSTEM, PROFESSIONAL"

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I'd like to try and use the higher resolution "component" iPhone video cable instead. (480P I think) The EAS VSM supports VGA input (open wire, no connector) I'm thinking maybe I could convert the Component output to VGA possibly. The question I have is what resolution is my 2008 iDrive screen? If it's piss poor and much lower than 1280 x 480 maybe I can look into replacing the screen? (if it's the same save and will fit in the stock window) If not, I'd like to ask the experts here what my resolution is. That way I can pick an appliance that will convert component to the correct VGA output. If my 2008 screen is too low of a resolution to bother with VGA, (and I cant upgrade it to the 1280 x 480 one) I'll just keep things simple with composite. I want to know all my options and what it's capable of though first.
CCC: 640x240
CIC: 1280x480 (HD)

A CIC screen cannot be used on a CCC system.
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There is an option S6VAA which reads at "NAVIGATION SYSTEM, PROFESSIONAL"

SA609 + SA6VA = CIC
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Can anyone do the mod to an 09 M5 in Socal? I am really interested.
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Autologic will try to code my TCU for MyInfo (I will ask for BT Audio as well); my D-CAN interface seems not to like my TCU.
I bet that's the MOST bus issue Patryk spoke about. Makes sense....wonder if there's any way around it....hmm. Have you tried putting the CCC back in and talking to it through that? The CIC/CCC would be the MOST gateway, so it's possible it doesn't want to talk through the CIC.
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Can anyone do the mod to an 09 M5 in Socal? I am really interested.
Im pretty sure Tom@EAS can do the installation on your car.
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Autologic will try to code my TCU for MyInfo (I will ask for BT Audio as well); my D-CAN interface seems not to like my TCU.
Now my situation is a bit different, but using a non-DCAN car (and KKL cable), my NCS will talk to/code the TCU without a problem. The CIC (in my case) is not a factor keeping it from talking over the bus. The question I have is the TCU talking over K-CAN and not D-CAN (unless the CIC/CCC is converting over to the MOST bus? - I wouldn't think so)

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I bet that's the MOST bus issue Patryk spoke about. Makes sense....wonder if there's any way around it....hmm. Have you tried putting the CCC back in and talking to it through that? The CIC/CCC would be the MOST gateway, so it's possible it doesn't want to talk through the CIC.
Yes it is. It looks like an interface problem, but Technic could try to swap his CIC with CCC as the last resort before going to Autologic.
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Can anyone do the mod to an 09 M5 in Socal? I am really interested.
Drop me an email at info@modyfikacjebmw.pl and I will try to help you.
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Now my situation is a bit different, but using a non-DCAN car (and KKL cable), my NCS will talk to/code the TCU without a problem. The CIC (in my case) is not a factor keeping it from talking over the bus. The question I have is the TCU talking over K-CAN and not D-CAN (unless the CIC/CCC is converting over to the MOST bus? - I wouldn't think so)
Yes, I do believe the CCC/CIC is the MOST gateway, so to talk to the TCU you must go through either one of those. Perhaps with the CIC some things have changed that make it unwilling to pass through the CAN data (when it thinks its a CCC). Just a guess.
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Yes, I do believe the CCC/CIC is the MOST gateway, so to talk to the TCU you must go through either one of those. Perhaps with the CIC some things have changed that make it unwilling to pass through the CAN data (when it thinks its a CCC). Just a guess.
Installing the CCC did not work... the TCU is still "incommunicado".

I'm going to try a Bavarian Technic cable next to see if that works at all...
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Installing the CCC did not work... the TCU is still "incommunicado".

I'm going to try a Bavarian Technic cable next to see if that works at all...
Hmm, that's weird. I assume you can't reach it with INPA either?

I don't recall whether it has a CAN line in addition to the MOST - if so I guess you could try coding on the bench.
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Hmm, that's weird. I assume you can't reach it with INPA either?

I don't recall whether it has a CAN line in addition to the MOST - if so I guess you could try coding on the bench.
I can see it with Tool32 and Winkpf, but no coding thru NCS Expert. The TCU does not have a CAN line that I know of.
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I can see it with Tool32 and Winkpf, but no coding thru NCS Expert. The TCU does not have a CAN line that I know of.
That's odd. What error do you get?
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