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      06-23-2020, 03:48 PM   #23
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I emailed rob, I'd much rather go that route if possible
How much power do you want realistically?

https://www.rbturbo.com/products/335i/335i
500whp is what I was going for, not much
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500whp is what I was going for, not much
TD03 RB one or two is enough for that power.

Check the website out and I'm sure Rob will point you in the right direction.
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Pure 600 are $2200 I believe and they support up to 600HP and I think that's rated at the wheels and not crank.
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500whp is what I was going for, not much
TD03 RB one or two is enough for that power.

Check the website out and I'm sure Rob will point you in the right direction.
Okay thank you for your help I'll talk to rob
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I wish I could but you don't get into those for less than three grand and that's just not possible for me.
That depends on how much power you want to make,

You can get RB's for 1.5k to 2.5k with inlets.
I emailed rob, I'd much rather go that route if possible
Good choice! He will inform you about the China turbos that all these companies that are slapping their names on. Like stated above.. what turbos you go with depends on your goals and budget. Trust me when I say Rob will give you a ridiculous deal for paying cash and/or bundling parts.
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Pure 600 are $2200 I believe and they support up to 600HP and I think that's rated at the wheels and not crank.
Just checked, its over 3k
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Pure 600 are $2200 I believe and they support up to 600HP and I think that's rated at the wheels and not crank.
Just checked, its over 3k
Where are you getting over $3000?
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Where are you getting over $3000?
https://www.pureturbos.com/store/bmw...e-stage-2.html

Thats just turbos from what I can see..
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I configured RB 2's with uprated TD03's rated for 475-525whp with Inlets and uprated High heat anti Wear Wastegates plus core charge and it came to $2824
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Where are you getting over $3000?
https://www.pureturbos.com/store/bmw...e-stage-2.html

Thats just turbos from what I can see..
Those are the stage 2's. Look at the Pure 600's
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You need to actually talk to Rob about prices.
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You need to actually talk to Rob about prices.
Yes I know, I was just saying RB's are better value with extras thrown in and Pure is more expensive.
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Those are the stage 2's. Look at the Pure 600's
Ok, 2.2k is turbo only and LHD, so not for me.
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You need to actually talk to Rob about prices.
Yes I know, I was just saying RB's are better value with extras thrown in and Pure is more expensive.
Yes I agree. Pure is a bigger company and very proud of their stuff.. however they have the quality and customer service. IMO RB Turbo is the number one N54 turbo company. His prices are very good, the quality is amazing and customer service is outstanding.
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Pure 600 are $2200 I believe and they support up to 600HP and I think that's rated at the wheels and not crank.
Just checked, its over 3k
Here: https://www.pureturbos.com/store/new...de-turbos.html
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Just an update for everyone, I talked to rob and he says he can do everything needed for 2300 after the core charge. I plan on saving up for this as I won't be able to afford to do it again if the knock offs go out. Thanks for all the help guys !
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Just an update for everyone, I talked to rob and he says he can do everything needed for 2300 after the core charge. I plan on saving up for this as I won't be able to afford to do it again if the knock offs go out. Thanks for all the help guys !
You're making a very wise decision and won't regret it.
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happy to see more people going RB turbo. they have been in the game the longest for our platform and offer way better products than others in the market. they are also the only ones to offer true td04 upgraded turbos in the stock frame. I still remember them at half mile events beating up on some exotics back in 2010 or so.
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Just an update for everyone, I talked to rob and he says he can do everything needed for 2300 after the core charge. I plan on saving up for this as I won't be able to afford to do it again if the knock offs go out. Thanks for all the help guys !


Let us know how much power and torque you make after the upgrade, would be nice to see a dyno chart after everything is done, including tune.
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Just an update for everyone, I talked to rob and he says he can do everything needed for 2300 after the core charge. I plan on saving up for this as I won't be able to afford to do it again if the knock offs go out. Thanks for all the help guys !


Let us know how much power and torque you make after the upgrade, would be nice to see a dyno chart after everything is done, including tune.
Probably going to be a pretty long time, I need to save some more and once i pay there is still a pretty long wait time from what I understand. But I will make sure to update once they are installed whenever that may be.
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Probably going to be a pretty long time, I need to save some more and once i pay there is still a pretty long wait time from what I understand. But I will make sure to update once they are installed whenever that may be.
No worries, I'm in the same boat, need to save up. lol
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Check out Pure or RB turbo for their solutions.

VTT is trash

I don't trust the cheap china turbos but if you buy them have them balanced in the states. After being balanced I would then only consider installing them if the labor was mine.
Couldn't agree more.

The VTT GC's, Steamspeed and Tomioka are all the same IMO.

VTT stage 1-2, DAW's lineup and Amazon/Ebay 17t and 19t are the same as well.. IMO

Do yourself a favor and go with RB Turbo or Pure.
Or build your self a budget single kit, best bang for your buck honestly
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