[nyt]

Originally Posted by nicky dj

NYT - you ever do any quarter mile slips? Interested to see if you got into the 10's.

No tracks near me, so when I go to the strip, it's with one of my dedicated cars on a trailer.

I just got a dragy recently but the weather here is poor so didn't get to use it. The car feels like it'd go high 10s with a solid launch.

Looking to move to NC this year, so hopefully both of those situations change a bit

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by WoodE30

Yes I see that, but why do you have so much more torque than horsepower? Don't you want higher hp than torque? Something seems off.

It depends. Don't forget that's how BMW designed this car to perform, big mid-range power from a low RPM. You couldn't have your cake and eat it too it back then.

[Jeef]

Originally Posted by nyt

I literally just posted a graph for you.

the one you posted is a virtual Dyno? not on an actual dyno.

[Torgus]

"Please I'd like to see a N54 with 100 more tq than horsepower. BTW I'm talking FT lbs not NM."



That is close, about 75 wtq difference.

The real question is, why do you want to see a N54 with 100 more tq than horsepower? It can be done via tuning.

[nyt]

Originally Posted by Jeef

the one you posted is a virtual Dyno? not on an actual dyno.

What's your point? It was performed on flat ground. The only difference from an actual dyno would be the scaling based on tire/weight/etc. The torque will still be higher than horsepower regardless of how you slice it.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by nyt

What's your point? It was performed on flat ground. The only difference from an actual dyno would be the scaling based on tire/weight/etc. The torque will still be higher than horsepower regardless of how you slice it.

Don't forget wind drag too.

[Sman217]

https://datazap.me/u/sman217/pure600...og=0&data=3-21

I have the Pure600's, and i have zero idea how you guys are making 28-30 psi. i posted datazap as well, would really like to know how you guys are getting that boost out of these turbos. I have 2" stock location inlets, i have outlets, Helix 3X Race IC, Dowpips, stock catback... Any input or reasoning on this? Is my tune conservative? Tuned on E50 with Renegade Pro E85 and Shell 93 Octane

[Sman217]

Originally Posted by nyt

What's your point? It was performed on flat ground. The only difference from an actual dyno would be the scaling based on tire/weight/etc. The torque will still be higher than horsepower regardless of how you slice it.

Please refer to my comment above, i meant to quote you... Sorry.

[ragingpanda]

Originally Posted by Sman217

https://datazap.me/u/sman217/pure600...og=0&data=3-21

I have the Pure600's, and i have zero idea how you guys are making 28-30 psi. i posted datazap as well, would really like to know how you guys are getting that boost out of these turbos. I have 2" stock location inlets, i have outlets, Helix 3X Race IC, Dowpips, stock catback... Any input or reasoning on this? Is my tune conservative? Tuned on E50 with Renegade Pro E85 and Shell 93 Octane

Do you value engine/turbo longevity? Because if you do, then your tune is on point. What many people fail to mention when running such high boost, is that they usually will pop those turbos or their engine in such a short time due to extreme back pressure on those tiny stock exhaust housings.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by ragingpanda

Do you value engine/turbo longevity? Because if you do, then your tune is on point. What many people fail to mention when running such high boost, is that they usually will pop those turbos or their engine in such a short time due to extreme back pressure on those tiny stock exhaust housings.

Well said.

[Sman217]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Well said.

I am just trying to verify if i have a boosting issue, because many of the other people that have pure600's make a flat line boost of around 24 to 23 psi, where my car seems to taper off to 21 twoards redline.

all the people I talked to have the same tuner. The only variable that i could see is that i do my datalogs in much cooler climates (45 degrees) but everyone elses wastegate duty cycles are the same as mine, but make 3-4 psi more than my setup. That's why im trying to determine if something is wrong with my car in terms of having a boost leak or issue.

Anyway someone wants to take a look at the log and determine if it appears to have a leak? To me, it looks like the car is struggling to hold boost. It runs awesome, but just doesnt seem to make the same boost as all the other setups ive seen.

[mkolankowski]

Anyone have any reviews on how long these are lasting at what whp?

[nyt]

Originally Posted by Sman217

Please refer to my comment above, i meant to quote you... Sorry.

Plenty of WGDC headroom to increase your boost. Not looking at the rest of the log, but basically, turn up the boost.

[E90drip]

Originally Posted by nyt

too beaucoup. Spun a bearing. The 600s were great, they were hitting 600whp and 700ftlbs of torque around 4200rpm


new engine on the way with the works from top to bottom and a 6466g2.

I am actually thinking about getting those pure 600. I am just wondering if anyone has a used pair and a good shop to bring them in that’s reasonable price

[ProblematicBMW]

Originally Posted by dritonmushkolaj95

I am actually thinking about getting those pure 600. I am just wondering if anyone has a used pair and a good shop to bring them in that’s reasonable price

save yourself the money and get the ebay 17ts from swap depot’s video. unless you have port injection your not running nearly enough power to break them. install it yourself, it can be done in a weekend if you focus. get your water pump and thermostat, rear main, and oil pan gasket while your down there. all together thats 1500 bucks. pure 600s with a shop install? 4k easy. save yourself 2500$ and instead get some fueling going. dont forget, bigger turbos need a custom tune too.

PS i did all that and some more on my friends driveway on jack stands. its tottaly doable.

[Saif2018]

Originally Posted by ProblematicBMW

save yourself the money and get the ebay 17ts from swap depot’s video. unless you have port injection your not running nearly enough power to break them. install it yourself, it can be done in a weekend if you focus. get your water pump and thermostat, rear main, and oil pan gasket while your down there. all together thats 1500 bucks. pure 600s with a shop install? 4k easy. save yourself 2500$ and instead get some fueling going. dont forget, bigger turbos need a custom tune too.

PS i did all that and some more on my friends driveway on jack stands. its tottaly doable.

How long have you been running your 17t ebay turbos and at what psi?

Any long term data?

[E90drip]

Originally Posted by ProblematicBMW

save yourself the money and get the ebay 17ts from swap depot’s video. unless you have port injection your not running nearly enough power to break them. install it yourself, it can be done in a weekend if you focus. get your water pump and thermostat, rear main, and oil pan gasket while your down there. all together thats 1500 bucks. pure 600s with a shop install? 4k easy. save yourself 2500$ and instead get some fueling going. dont forget, bigger turbos need a custom tune too.

PS i did all that and some more on my friends driveway on jack stands. its tottaly doable.

Yeah I been looking into the 17t or 19t and there just so many mixed reviews I feel like and it’s just been throwing me off. Last thing I want to do is get something just to do the same job over again. I’m really torn between getting Chinese going for some pure or wait and save up for single turbo kit. And I was thinking of trying to do the job my self but I feel like after a job like that I’ll have some screws left over lol

[ProblematicBMW]

Originally Posted by Saif2018

How long have you been running your 17t ebay turbos and at what psi?

Any long term data?

havent even finished tuning yet. these remote tuners have terrible turnaround on the revisions, its already been 2 months. anyway im still at 18. car runs best it has in my ownership. heres my build:

Stage 2 lpfp walbro 450 bucketless DIY
PR ignition coils
NGK 1 step colder plugs
VRSF 2” Stainless steel relocated inlets
VRSF 5” intercooler
VRSF chargepipe + HKS BOV
VRSF f i l t e r l e s s downtuuubes
unknown 3” catback exhaust
Megan racing coilovers
19” m3 wheels
m3 cosmetics etc.

i forgot to add i daily this thing 70-100 agressive miles, not including mountain driving 2-5 times a weekend. yeah i drive this thing pretty damn hard. i craked the radiator and blew the head gasket on my old subie from redlining it all the time.

[ProblematicBMW]

Originally Posted by dritonmushkolaj95

Yeah I been looking into the 17t or 19t and there just so many mixed reviews I feel like and it’s just been throwing me off. Last thing I want to do is get something just to do the same job over again. I’m really torn between getting Chinese going for some pure or wait and save up for single turbo kit. And I was thinking of trying to do the job my self but I feel like after a job like that I’ll have some screws left over lol

think about it cost wise. single turbo is 6 grand, pure 600s are 2 grand, 17ts are 800. if it breaks, you can try again and again and it will still be cheaper. i also find work fun so i might be crazy.

[Ozzie335i]

Originally Posted by ProblematicBMW

i also find work fun so i might be crazy.

And since you have a problematic bmw there is no shortage of work / fun.

[E90drip]

Originally Posted by ProblematicBMW

think about it cost wise. single turbo is 6 grand, pure 600s are 2 grand, 17ts are 800. if it breaks, you can try again and again and it will still be cheaper. i also find work fun so i might be crazy.

That’s true I’m going to weigh out my options because if I decide to bring it to a shop I might as well just do it right the first time the labor isn’t cheap

[Saif2018]

Originally Posted by dritonmushkolaj95

That’s true I’m going to weigh out my options because if I decide to bring it to a shop I might as well just do it right the first time the labor isn’t cheap

If your getting the turbos done in a shop, don't even think about rolling the dice and trying ebay turbos, just go with RB or Pure and get it done right the first time.