[T Bone]

Originally Posted by 533ogetnom

no i just arrived at that conclusion through common sense, thats all

Perhaps you should consider the opinons of those who have dealt with Dinan on warranty issues before you jump to conclusions.

[bnj]

Group hug everyone and let's hope all together that they are able to enhance and get the final version a tad better. It would be great to see 335 to aproach towards 11's

Originally Posted by bnj

It would be great to see 335 to aproach towards 11's

no no no!!!! the PROCEDE should do that first!!!!

[335iheLLraiseR]

Originally Posted by that guy nico

waiting for the wise words of sflgator......

me 2....

[PresaMat]

Possible idea:

BMW is breaking away from Dinan... creating their own line of performance parts. It could be possible Dinan isnt too happy with this. What would be a better way to say fsck you then release an ECU flash for the 335 that would make buying the m3 less appealing. A lot of people think Dinan is the way to go b/c of the past with BMW... lets see "40K 335 + $2500 or so for Dinan and get a car as fast or faster then the new $70K M3".

What do yall think?

Mat

[RiXst3r]

Originally Posted by PresaMat

Possible idea:

BMW is breaking away from Dinan... creating their own line of performance parts. It could be possible Dinan isnt too happy with this. What would be a better way to say fsck you then release an ECU flash for the 335 that would make buying the m3 less appealing. A lot of people think Dinan is the way to go b/c of the past with BMW... lets see "40K 335 + $2500 or so for Dinan and get a car as fast or faster then the new $70K M3".

What do yall think?

Mat

hmmm, good thinkin lincoln... you could be right

[Ado]

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

hmmm, good thinkin lincoln... you could be right

+1

The BMW decision to part with Dinan and not be directly in business with them must have made them reallllll mad

Regarding the PSI on the tinny winny turbos I think Shiv is the best guy to ask that. I'm sure he must have pushed his to the limit and maybe even gone as far is killing a few just to see what their max is

[533ogetnom]

Originally Posted by Ado

+1

The BMW decision to part with Dinan and not be directly in business with them must have made them reallllll mad

Regarding the PSI on the tinny winny turbos I think Shiv is the best guy to ask that. I'm sure he must have pushed his to the limit and maybe even gone as far is killing a few just to see what their max is

i think you gave him too much credit there, he does testing, but i dont think he goes through parts and engines like the huge tuners

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by 335iheLLraiseR

me 2....

What's your issue...I've already posted ~ 10x in this thread, so stfu already!

Yes, I've had some harsh words for Dinan and I've been very skeptical of their current project "work" on performance tuning for the 335i, but if I was wrong, then I'll admit it and so be it; it doesn't matter to me. I've never claimed to be some BMW expert or "know it all," so what's with the provocation?

However, just based on this one 1/4 mi. run which cannot be verified at this point, I still remain a bit skeptical of a Dinan ECU flash of such proportion (~ +80WHP / ~ +100 lb.-ft. RWTQ) that would yield such phenomenal results.

btw -- I find it humorous that I apparently have such a rep on this fine Forum. I did not know this.

[normtrum]

Originally Posted by sflgator

What's your issue...I've already posted ~ 10x in this thread, so stfu already!

Yes, I've had some harsh words for Dinan and I've been very skeptical of their current project "work" on performance tuning for the 335i, but if I was wrong, then I'll admit it and so be it; it doesn't matter to me. I've never claimed to be some BMW expert or "know it all," so what's with the provocation?

However, just based on this one 1/4 mi. run which cannot be verified at this point, I still remain a bit skeptical of a Dinan ECU flash of such proportion (~ +80WHP / ~ +100 lb.-ft. RWTQ) that would yield such phenomenal results.

btw -- I find it humorous that I apparently have such a rep on this fine Forum. I did not know this.

Your rep is fine gator. YTM (you the man)

[max boost]

Originally Posted by that guy nico

real or not....we should be able to obtain similar times with procede V2....

ill do better!

[joeygott]

Dinan told me they will offer different stages, with some coming with custom intake, exhaust, etc.
The ECU reflash is only supposed to be in the 40hp range, which is fine for most, but for people seeking maximum power, Dinan is probably not your best choice, unless they actually come out with something that supports that 12.3 qtr mile time. Highly suspect of that by the way.
But for me, DINAN is by far my best choice. They put way more time and R&D into testing and it's not a piggy back system or plug in module which can't retard the timing, which is required when you boost.
So, from an engineering standpoint, it's superior, and I did confirm with the local BMW dealer that there is no impact on BMW warranty with the DINAN ecu flash.
If DINAN and BMW have parted ways, why are dozens of BMW dealerships around the country still DINAN dealers?
And if you know anything about DINAN, when they do something, they do it right. Their history is strong and in the BMW perfomance community, they are very well respected from both a business and performance standpoint.
There is NO WAY I would pay $1300 dollars for something that trips codes and causes limp mode failures on a regular basis. I'll wait and get the real deal. Will it be as fast? Probably not, and it might even cost more money. but the peace of mind and trouble free service makes it WELL worth it.

[533ogetnom]

Originally Posted by joeygott

But for me, DINAN is by far my best choice. They put way more time and R&D into testing and it's not a piggy back system or plug in module which can't retard the timing, which is required when you boost.

if procede couldnt retard timing all of our engines would have holes in them by now

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by normtrum

Your rep is fine gator. YTM (you the man)

Thanks.

Originally Posted by sflgator

btw -- I find it humorous that I apparently have such a rep on this fine Forum. I did not know this.

im a fan

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by Brisk

does the procede retard timing or the ecu...

some poeple on bimmer forums think that its no bad if the engine retards timing if it runs a bit lean. the device should run rich and knock retard shouldnt be invloved?> wtf?



-lumi

PROcede v1 controls timing, fuel and boost.

[M&M]

Originally Posted by Driver72

Again, as I stated in my first reply that's the only thing that threw up a red flag for me.
I'm confident he has a CDV delete in order to do that kind of a launch.

Dinan could very well of hired a driver to make those passes too.

I have 6MT + CDV. I have no issues launching hard.

[hotrod2448]

Originally Posted by Driver72

Until you start talking Dinan prices.

It doesn't matter you are still talking about them and that generates a buzz.

There are plenty of people who will buy it for the exclusivity of it if it's high priced.

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Look if this is true about the warranty no longer being valid with Dinan products, then this changes nothing. As soon as someone flashes their car, they're on their own. Of course this is based on the assumption that BMW has parted with Dinan.

[Grogan545]

Originally Posted by Driver72

Well, as I said in my first reply in this thread....
With the mods he has, sounded right to me.

15 psi boys that's got to be good for 20-30 rwhp over PROcede v1.47 alone.

I would expect PROcede v2.0 with the same mods this guy had to do the same times.

But I still bet he's got the CDV delete but didn't update that part.
I've ran guys in their 6MT 335i's and they can't launch that hard with CDV in.

I also agree, this was probably a private track rental and the track was prepped really well, with lots of VHT on the track for good launches.

But what it comes down too is it's still an ECU FLASH.
So even if it's only $1000 it isn't reversible whenever you want it or removable. Therefore you can't sell it.

I suspect will will find that this time is correct.I don't think there was any special track prep because the 60' time(1.9) is not that good.Maybe the dinan set up in this car was maxed out for HP.This may not be the product they will sell to the public.I suspect a tamer version will be whats actually sold.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Grogan545

I suspect will will find that this time is correct.I don't think there was any special track prep because the 60' time(1.9) is not that good.Maybe the dinan set up in this car was maxed out for HP.This may not be the product they will sell to the public.I suspect a tamer version will be whats actually sold.

If that were the case, then the as$hole shouldn't have posted the time, the timeslip and ALL the blatant Dinan info on DragTimes.com.

[musc]

Originally Posted by Grogan545

I suspect will will find that this time is correct.I don't think there was any special track prep because the 60' time(1.9) is not that good.Maybe the dinan set up in this car was maxed out for HP.This may not be the product they will sell to the public.I suspect a tamer version will be whats actually sold.

I have a hard time believing that they would test some extreme tune then try to sell one that makes half the power. They'd get calls all day with people wanting to buy the extreme tune. I personally wouldn't want a flash that makes the same, if not less, than PROcede V1.

I am sure a Dinan flash is in the works, but I doubt it has anything to do with this time posted on Dragtimes.