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drwtsn32 · 10-23-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MB330

Am I wrong or did single layer capacity is 4.7Gb?

R u sure you didn't add some MP3 files???

lmao... Yes, a DVD is 4.7GB, with GB being the bastardized version that hard drive manufacturers use: 1GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes.

But in the real world 1GB is not 10^9 bytes... it's 2^30 bytes... or 1,073,741,824 bytes. This means your 4.7 "GB" DVD really can only hold about 4.377GB... or 4,482MB... or 4,589,843KB... or 4,699,999,232 bytes.

This can be verified with Nero if you pop in a blank disc and go to Recorder/Disc Info. I just did this for a DVD-R and it shows up as 4489MB free.

This NRG (Nero ISO) file is exactly 4,763,844,776 bytes in size. Which is about 60MB too big to fit on a blank single-layer DVD-R.

MB330 · 10-23-2008, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by drwtsn32

lmao... Yes, a DVD is 4.7GB, with GB being the bastardized version that hard drive manufacturers use: 1GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes.

But in the real world 1GB is not 10^9 bytes... it's 2^30 bytes... or 1,073,741,824 bytes. This means your 4.7 "GB" DVD really can only hold about 4.377GB... or 4,482MB... or 4,589,843KB... or 4,699,999,232 bytes.

This can be verified with Nero if you pop in a blank disc and go to Recorder/Disc Info. I just did this for a DVD-R and it shows up as 4489MB free.

This NRG (Nero ISO) file is exactly 4,763,844,776 bytes in size. Which is about 60MB too big to fit on a blank single-layer DVD-R.

I just get the same problem as you. My apology!
Now what?

drwtsn32 · 10-23-2008, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MB330

I just get the same problem as you. My apology!
Now what?

Do you have a blank DVD-R DL disc you can try? I'm out of DL blanks at the moment...

bimmernupe · 10-23-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by drwtsn32

lmao... Yes, a DVD is 4.7GB, with GB being the bastardized version that hard drive manufacturers use: 1GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes.

But in the real world 1GB is not 10^9 bytes... it's 2^30 bytes... or 1,073,741,824 bytes. This means your 4.7 "GB" DVD really can only hold about 4.377GB... or 4,482MB... or 4,589,843KB... or 4,699,999,232 bytes.

This can be verified with Nero if you pop in a blank disc and go to Recorder/Disc Info. I just did this for a DVD-R and it shows up as 4489MB free.

This NRG (Nero ISO) file is exactly 4,763,844,776 bytes in size. Which is about 60MB too big to fit on a blank single-layer DVD-R.

Anytime you go on a bit of a rant or get technical in posts I can't help, but read in Stewie's voice.

kennethpetro · 10-23-2008, 08:18 AM

Is everybody having the same problem of the .ISO being just over 4.7gigs? Or was that issue isolated to using NERO to create the .ISO?

mikey8 · 10-23-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kennethpetro

Is everybody having the same problem of the .ISO being just over 4.7gigs? Or was that issue isolated to using NERO to create the .ISO?

Yes, it's too large for a DVD-R.

I suspect it may be related to being a Nero .nrg image but can't be sure.

I burned it to a DVD+R DL. I created a .ISO file from that. It turned out to be the same size as the Nero .NRG file.

I don't have any DVD-R DL right now but will try the DVD+R DL in my car --- don't know if that will work yet.

MB330 · 10-23-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kennethpetro

Is everybody having the same problem of the .ISO being just over 4.7gigs? Or was that issue isolated to using NERO to create the .ISO?

No, Roxio get the same problem - not enough disk space....

NM_BMW · 10-23-2008, 09:31 AM

Stupid Nero.

If you use IMGBurn you can continue anyways, not sure if it will work or not.

What about extracting all the files from the image and just copying them over to a DVD disc?

ciy · 10-23-2008, 09:35 AM

Got the file, seeding it now, over 25 GB uploaded so far, I have a good upload speed with US it seems, 3 MB/s upload speed. I'll let it run one more week hopefully everyone will get it.

Enkur · 10-23-2008, 09:39 AM

I started the download too... I also have a 2Mbit upload ... it uploading faster than downloading

... I'll let it seed for a while too.

ihyln · 10-23-2008, 09:46 AM

Guys,

I'm going to rip an ISO right now and see if there is an appreciable size difference.

drwtsn32 · 10-23-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ihyln

Guys,

I'm going to rip an ISO right now and see if there is an appreciable size difference.

I wouldn't think there'd be a big difference. The Nero Image format may have a bit of extra weight in the header, but I doubt it'd be 60+MB worth. Plus that extra crap wouldn't need to be burned back to the disc anyway. Creating a Nero Image and burning a disc from that creates an exact copy, not an exact copy with extra MBs of junk.

But let us know what happens.

MB330 · 10-23-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ihyln

Guys,

I'm going to rip an ISO right now and see if there is an appreciable size difference.

I just try nro2iso and it's not helping

MB330 · 10-23-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ihyln

Guys,

I'm going to rip an ISO right now and see if there is an appreciable size difference.

ihyln, you state before that you make a back up copy - is it work? What app do you use?

ihyln · 10-23-2008, 10:00 AM

I used Nero7 before. I'm using MagicISO right now and see if there is any size difference between the two rips.

ihyln · 10-23-2008, 10:15 AM

Looks like you guys are up in arms over nothing. I just ripped the DVD using MagicISO into ISO format and here are the results

NRG - 4,652,193KB - 4,763,844,776 bytes
ISO - 4,652,182KB - 4,763,834,368 bytes

ct335i · 10-23-2008, 10:17 AM

Agree, an Iso file shouldn't be much different.
The ISO file I have is at 4,652,182 KB or 4.35 GB

I'm gonna try and get a Dual layer at lunch and advise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drwtsn32

I wouldn't think there'd be a big difference. The Nero Image format may have a bit of extra weight in the header, but I doubt it'd be 60+MB worth. Plus that extra crap wouldn't need to be burned back to the disc anyway. Creating a Nero Image and burning a disc from that creates an exact copy, not an exact copy with extra MBs of junk.

But let us know what happens.

NM_BMW · 10-23-2008, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihyln

Looks like you guys are up in arms over nothing. I just ripped the DVD using MagicISO into ISO format and here are the results

NRG - 4,652,193KB - 4,763,844,776 bytes
ISO - 4,652,182KB - 4,763,834,368 bytes

hmmm...

MB330 · 10-23-2008, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ct335i

Agree, an Iso file shouldn't be much different.
The ISO file I have is at 4,652,182 KB or 4.35 GB

I'm gonna try and get a Dual layer at lunch and advise.

Do we know for sure that our cars accepted dual layer DVDs?

ihyln · 10-23-2008, 10:34 AM

some people are really greedy, they just grab their copy and disconnect.

mikey8 · 10-23-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MB330

Do we know for sure that our cars accepted dual layer DVDs?

I just burned the .nrg to a DVD+R DL (as I didn't have any DVD-R DL).

It's working perfectly in my 2008 E70 (X5). So that model accepts dual layer DVDs.

I did tests on looking up addresses, for navigating to them, and looking up information, such as hotels, for my location.

MB330 · 10-23-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ihyln

some people are really greedy, they just grab their copy and disconnect.

Well, at this point we knew that they will be not able to burn DVD from that copy...

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