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      05-27-2022, 12:37 PM   #45
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Cars have changed now, I wouldn't even compare the two anymore. The current M3 may as well be an M5 and the upcoming M2 is like the older M3s.
it's basically right in line with inflation, based on this calculator: https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

64k in 2009 is equal to a little over $86k in 2022.
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      05-27-2022, 12:40 PM   #46
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That's insane. Once prices go up they never come down. The best you can expect is they keep the price the same as the previous MY if the economy stabilizes, but even then that's a long shot. The whole thing sucks.
True. With manufacturer incentives being a thing of the past, there would be significant increase in per unit profit for BMW with these MSRP increases and removing all customer incentives.
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      05-27-2022, 12:41 PM   #47
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Like prices were great deals before the increase. It's all arbitrary and artificial.
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      05-27-2022, 12:44 PM   #48
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This seems more about demand tbh. The M card saw their highest sales in the last 2-3 years thanks to YouTubers and social media. It only makes sense to capitalize. Hopefully with high interest rates and high gas prices demand wanes a bit so there can be discounts.
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      05-27-2022, 12:54 PM   #50
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guess i'm switching from xDrive to RWD lol
Ditto!! 😅🤣😅😩😩 Living in Florida I probably never needed it lol. Hopefully going to RWD doesn't change up how often/where you can drive in your city!!
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      05-27-2022, 01:09 PM   #51
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WOW! Price increase, no discounts, high interest rate, and potentially mark-up. Stacks on stacks on stacks. Scrooge McDucks vault o' coin just got bigger.
Don't worry the days of 13% + before incentives will return some day.
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of course.......right on time for the release of the new M2
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The X3, X4, X5, X6, X7, and future XM are US assembled so BMW US manufacturing tier 1 part suppliers are pricing in USD. The Ukraine war also wreak havoc on the European part suppliers. I highly suspect part of the price increase reflects the higher transportation costs as BMW NA probably didn't want to increase the $995 destination fee past the $1,000 psychological barrier. A 4 digit destination fee number would have a negative psychological affect on a potential buyer.
Is the destination fee for having the parts delivered to the factory or the car delivered to me? Because $1,000 fee when I do a performance center delivery seems really expensive when all they have to do is drive the car across the street.
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      05-27-2022, 01:24 PM   #55
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Is the destination fee for having the parts delivered to the factory or the car delivered to me? Because $1,000 fee when I do a performance center delivery seems really expensive when all they have to do is drive the car across the street.
A destination fee to my knowledge is typically the freight fee or transportation fee, that the manufacturer charges the customer to deliver the vehicle from the factory to the dealership. But ya for PCD that is a valid point on those models.
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The X3, X4, X5, X6, X7, and future XM are US assembled so BMW US manufacturing tier 1 part suppliers are pricing in USD. The Ukraine war also wreak havoc on the European part suppliers. I highly suspect part of the price increase reflects the higher transportation costs as BMW NA probably didn't want to increase the $995 destination fee past the $1,000 psychological barrier. A 4 digit destination fee number would have a negative psychological affect on a potential buyer.
Is the destination fee for having the parts delivered to the factory or the car delivered to me? Because $1,000 fee when I do a performance center delivery seems really expensive when all they have to do is drive the car across the street.
Destination fee is car delivered to you via dealership or PCD. Unfortunately that's the drawback of a US manufactured X vehicle, as you can't win em all. Positive is when you lease your only paying for 45% of the destination fee if for example the residual is 55%. I factor in the $1,000 BMW car club rebate of the X5M as a "wash".
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Is the destination fee for having the parts delivered to the factory or the car delivered to me? Because $1,000 fee when I do a performance center delivery seems really expensive when all they have to do is drive the car across the street.
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A destination fee to my knowledge is typically the freight fee or transportation fee, that the manufacturer charges the customer to deliver the vehicle from the factory to the dealership. But ya for PCD that is a valid point on those models.
BMW's zero cost PCD is still a bargain.

Porsche charges extra fee for their Porsche Experience Center Delivery and so do Chevy for Corvette Museum Delivery in addition to the Destination fee.
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Wonder what this means for the upcoming M2. Guessing it's gonna start somewhere around $61k or $62k but who knows
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Wonder what this means for the upcoming M2. Guessing it's gonna start somewhere around $61k or $62k but who knows
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      05-27-2022, 01:48 PM   #60
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Unfortunately what happens during these high inflation periods is the prices never come back down or at least don't come back too much to where they were prior. It does suck especially knowing why it happened.
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Ouch for certain models..but not much you can do price of business.
How much for a GRILL delete???
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Geez…M5 getting the highest increase!

Glad I got mine last year - I wouldn't be surprised if additional price increases materialize.
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      05-27-2022, 01:59 PM   #63
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Is the destination fee for having the parts delivered to the factory or the car delivered to me? Because $1,000 fee when I do a performance center delivery seems really expensive when all they have to do is drive the car across the street.
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A destination fee to my knowledge is typically the freight fee or transportation fee, that the manufacturer charges the customer to deliver the vehicle from the factory to the dealership. But ya for PCD that is a valid point on those models.
BMW's zero cost PCD is still a bargain.

Porsche charges extra fee for their Porsche Experience Center Delivery and so do Chevy for Corvette Museum Delivery in addition to the Destination fee.
For PCD, I guess that fee pays for the stay, meals, and track time.
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Yeah let's not forget all Incentives are gone

So a $77,000 M3 in 2019-2020 was actually like $70,000
Now it's $82,000 no discounts

So that's 12,000 increase to actual customer paid price or 17%
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They were expensive to begin with as well. M3 cars have shot up a lot in the past 10 years. I remember when I ordered an E92 M3 back in 09 I think and it was $62-64k. That was with most options as I recall. Now an M3 is around $82k without comp package, xdrive or extras.
$62,000 in 2009 is equal to $84,893.92 today according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics' inflation calculator.

The 2009 base price of $57,850 is equivalent to $79,211.51 today.

https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
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For PCD, I guess that fee pays for the stay, meals, and track time.
And if the vehicle is manufactured outside US, aforesaid items are totally free.
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