[enrita]

me too

[bubbletea 4 me]

TTurboBullett - so I open the can of warms on groupbuy for Helix FMIC. will you organize one so we all can have a wonderful xmas gift?

[TurboBullett@Ambient Thermal Management]

Originally Posted by bubbletea 4 me

TTurboBullett - so I open the can of warms on groupbuy for Helix FMIC. will you organize one so we all can have a wonderful xmas gift?

I'll talk this over with eric tommorrow but... Helix does not like to do groupbuys if the parts are not in stock and I dont know how many FMIC's are left from the last production run.

[BES335xi]

so just do a gb for whatever u have in stock...

[ralph@helix]

Originally Posted by BES335xi

so just do a gb for whatever u have in stock...

Done! Check the vendor groupbuy section

[TurboBullett@Ambient Thermal Management]

heres a link to the groupbuy:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184014

[Juicer]

Originally Posted by ralph@helix

Done! Check the vendor groupbuy section

[Aridk]

If the volume is lager than stock wil it not induce more turbolag?

[TurboBullett@Ambient Thermal Management]

Originally Posted by Aridk

If the volume is lager than stock wil it not induce more turbolag?

thinking 1 dimensionally yes any increase in volume can increase lag but...

firstly the BMW employs a very adaptive engine management system that always tries to run the most aggressive timing it can under any situation. the FMIC's lower AITs translate to more advanced timing and faster boost response.

secondly- better flowing and less restrictive cores and better designed endtanks-inlets and outlets also enable faster boost response.

when designing an intercooler you try to maximize the above to counteract any volume increased lag

BTW where in Denmark do you live? I lived in Hillerod north of Copnehagen for about 8 months in college jeg jeg

[HP Autosport]

Here is some data on the Code3 FMIC....

Installation instructions:

http://www.code3performance.com/335/...structions.pdf

No bumper removal required on the Code3 FMIC!

[Aridk]

Originally Posted by TTurboBullett

thinking 1 dimensionally yes any increase in volume can increase lag but...

firstly the BMW employs a very adaptive engine management system that always tries to run the most aggressive timing it can under any situation. the FMIC's lower AITs translate to more advanced timing and faster boost response.

secondly- better flowing and less restrictive cores and better designed endtanks-inlets and outlets also enable faster boost response.

when designing an intercooler you try to maximize the above to counteract any volume increased lag

BTW where in Denmark do you live? I lived in Hillerod north of Copnehagen for about 8 months in college jeg jeg

Small world I took my senioryear in high school lancing Michigan Denmark is a small contry I`m born in Skagen on the very north top now i live in Soenderborg to the south 20 miels from Germany, good wheen the bmw need to strech it´s legs (autobahn too bad about the limmiter thou)

I guess you have tested the helix on a stock car, so in you own vords can you feel any differance in spool up/ throttelresponce compaired to the stock car?

[Zeph]

^ wow, I need some coffee before I read that kind of post.

[GUINNESS]

Turbo/FMIC newb here.... is there any major differences/advantages to the step design of Helix compared to the Code3??? Honestly, I'm just curious.


And thank you but damn you Helix for the group buy I wouldn't even have to pay for shipping. I would just have my parents pick it up and then grab it over the Christmas holiday

[RMA]

Sounds like a great deal on that Helix. Just need more feedback on Code 3 vs. Helix.

[Lane]

Originally Posted by RMA

Sounds like a great deal on that Helix. Just need more feedback on Code 3 vs. Helix.

Read post #6 on the first page.

[HP Autosport]

Data is great, but let us see some dyno numbers!

[TurboBullett@Ambient Thermal Management]

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Data is great, but let us see some dyno numbers!

when looking at dyno numbers its not so important to see the max PEAK #'s but rather the power gain across the powerband, ALSO a dyno is a very bad test for an intercooler as it doesnt simulate a real road going situation in regards to ambient airflow. with that said the Helix had a consistent and smooth 20-25 hp gain over a large part of the powerband with a 22whp increase at peak power. MOST importantly this is a dyno of only one gear its even more important to see how the power increases "stay" through multiple gears as the AIT's increase. I am most confident that the power gain with the Helix FMIC don't disappear as it keeps AIT rise at a minimum.



here is the aitr log we did on this very same dyno run you can see how the lower AIT's directly relate to power increase.

[gt3fever]

Originally Posted by TTurboBullett

when looking at dyno numbers its not so important to see the max PEAK #'s but rather the power gain across the powerband, ALSO a dyno is a very bad test for an intercooler as it doesnt simulate a real road going situation in regards to ambient airflow. with that said the Helix had a consistent and smooth 20-25 hp gain over a large part of the powerband with a 22whp increase at peak power. MOST importantly this is a dyno of only one gear its even more important to see how the power increases "stay" through multiple gears as the AIT's increase. I am most confident that the power gain with the Helix FMIC don't disappear as it keeps AIT rise at a minimum.



here is the aitr log we did on this very same dyno run you can see how the lower AIT's directly relate to power increase.

the data looks pretty decent !! make me wanna put the trigger on !

[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by hipertech

the data looks pretty decent !! make me wanna put the trigger on !

I just pulled the trigger this morning! Call and talk to Ralph he will take care of you.

Give me a week and I'll have it installed dyno coming up on Nov 22nd

[elwoodwffw]

just ordered today (helix) and i cant tell you how smooth everything was.... cant wait to put this on and see for myself...

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by TTurboBullett

when looking at dyno numbers its not so important to see the max PEAK #'s but rather the power gain across the powerband, ALSO a dyno is a very bad test for an intercooler as it doesnt simulate a real road going situation in regards to ambient airflow. with that said the Helix had a consistent and smooth 20-25 hp gain over a large part of the powerband with a 22whp increase at peak power. MOST importantly this is a dyno of only one gear its even more important to see how the power increases "stay" through multiple gears as the AIT's increase. I am most confident that the power gain with the Helix FMIC don't disappear as it keeps AIT rise at a minimum.

If a dyno is properly set-up for this test it should produce enough volume and velocity of air to simulate on-road conditions. Again, lower IAT's doesn't always translate to higher horse power output.

[gt3fever]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

I just pulled the trigger this morning! Call and talk to Ralph he will take care of you.

Give me a week and I'll have it installed dyno coming up on Nov 22nd

looking forward to it