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      11-19-2018, 05:47 PM   #1
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Need NCS Expert Profiles & other

If anyone could send me your basic NCS Expert profiles and tell me how to load them into the NCS Expert, it would be much appreciated. Almost all of my knowledge on the e90 is around the engine and what not. Coding is not my deal, but am willing to learn. I come from MAC background, but I have just acquired a Toshiba Protégé. I got the INPA software package off of Bimmergeeks website, and I have NCS expert for dummies and Daten v65.
I have no other profiles. Actually, I have NCS dummies twice. I don't know why, but one of them does nothing.

I am thinking of buying a used M3 cluster off ebay. Does it matter if they are from a manual or DCT set up. Also, I want to upgrade my FRM module from Frm 1 to at least FRM 2. Frm 2's on ebay are cheap. What is the difference between an FRM 2 & 3 and why pay the extra $100.00 for a used one?

From what I can tell regarding the Kombi, I will use WinKFP to write the vin to the new cluster and then use NCS expert to code it? I know you need a cluster that has less miles than yours. That wont be an issue as I have 158,000 miles on my 335i. I obviously don't want the tamper dot. I am hoping I don't have to pay $250.00 to have to virginitized, if I don't need to to that.

The FRM seems pretty self explanatory. lots of DIY's on it.

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https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh....php?t=1226217
See entry 2 in this thread and the link.

Found these files for 4.0 version they don't seem to be all the files
for the old Revtor setup but they have a working expert mode.
His old files don't work in the new version. (I tried them)
I think they are just profiles you create but I not sure what there individual
significance is or what there actual value is.
Yep no profiles from the bimmergeeks download. Well that I found anyway.

you copy them directly to the pfl folder after extraction.
Anybody else have current versions of Revtors complete list for 4.0

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My Bimmergeeks download has 2 profiles. One is Factory Coding and the other is Manipulation. I've use Manipulation for some simple coding w/ no problems. I really don't know the significance of a profile.
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I found no profiles in ncsexpert for the bimmergeeks download . Are the they hidden somewhere? Did I not download something I was suppose to?
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Ya, there's only 2 I think

Manipulation & factory coding
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I found no profiles in ncsexpert for the bimmergeeks download . Are the they hidden somewhere? Did I not download something I was suppose to?
Ya, there's only 2 I think

Manipulation & factory coding
You only need these two profiles. Factory coding is what some would call expertmode. Manipulation is for coding. The name given to profiles can be changed to whatever you want if you edit them .
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You only need these two profiles. Factory coding is what some would call expertmode. Manipulation is for coding. The name given to profiles can be changed to whatever you want if you edit them .
What's the difference in using one profile or the other? If you're going into an ECU and changing a file then coding it in, does it matter? Maybe for something more advanced it might be important?
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I found no profiles in ncsexpert for the bimmergeeks download . Are the they hidden somewhere? Did I not download something I was suppose to?
Ya, there's only 2 I think

Manipulation & factory coding
You only need these two profiles. Factory coding is what some would call expertmode. Manipulation is for coding. The name given to profiles can be changed to whatever you want if you edit them .
Cool thanks...

Any advice on an M3 cluster. I might buy one from an M3 Manual.

I think I can get away from not having to get it Virginized if I can get one that has lower mileage than my car? Correct ??

Please Advise
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What's the difference in using one profile or the other? If you're going into an ECU and changing a file then coding it in, does it matter? Maybe for something more advanced it might be important?
"Expertmode" type profile doesn't have the setting checked to actually change a parameter via coding. It only codes a module based on the VO, hence it defaults the module to factory coding.
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Cool thanks...

Any advice on an M3 cluster. I might buy one from an M3 Manual.

I think I can get away from not having to get it Virginized if I can get one that has lower mileage than my car? Correct ??

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It will pick up your mileage correctly if lower mileage than you currently have but it will have the tamper dot if not virginized.
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So if you load Factory Coding / Expert Mode and, for example, try to code out the idrive warning, it won't do it?
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http://codinge90.com/getting-started/
Go right to the NCSexpert section if you have Inpa working

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So if you load Factory Coding / Expert Mode and, for example, try to code out the idrive warning, it won't do it?
Correct, you'd use the manipulation profile to make the changes you want to make stick.
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You only need these two profiles. Factory coding is what some would call expertmode. Manipulation is for coding. The name given to profiles can be changed to whatever you want if you edit them .
it doesn't work for me in either modes..i do the sg command it blinks the car but doesnt stay....im trying toremove sos error
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Correct, you'd use the manipulation profile to make the changes you want to make stick.
im using the manipaltion modes it doesnt change any values somethings not right with this version
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Cool thanks...

Any advice on an M3 cluster. I might buy one from an M3 Manual.

I think I can get away from not having to get it Virginized if I can get one that has lower mileage than my car? Correct ??

Please Advise
It will pick up your mileage correctly if lower mileage than you currently have but it will have the tamper dot if not virginized.
What do you know about reprogramming the existing eeprom chip. From these two DIY's. Looks like it's possible.

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...2#post18610052

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...=1542727093070
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Cool thanks...

Any advice on an M3 cluster. I might buy one from an M3 Manual.

I think I can get away from not having to get it Virginized if I can get one that has lower mileage than my car? Correct ??

Please Advise
It will pick up your mileage correctly if lower mileage than you currently have but it will have the tamper dot if not virginized.
What do you know about reprogramming the existing eeprom chip. From these two DIY's. Looks like it's possible.

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...2#post18610052

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...=1542727093070
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im using the manipaltion modes it doesnt change any values somethings not right with this version
I would guess you're either missing a step in the procedure or your connection is off. The software works great. Are you using NCS Dummy or the Coding Tool with NCS Expert to make the changes?
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What do you know about reprogramming the existing eeprom chip. From these two DIY's. Looks like it's possible.

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...2#post18610052

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...=1542727093070
It's definitely possible, I've done it a few times to M3 clusters using the R270 programmer. The test clip never worked for me though so I use a desoldering station and remove the chip, erase the VIN and mileage in the programmers socket, and resolder the chip. Then the cluster can be coded to any 3 series.
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