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      06-09-2019, 12:36 PM   #1
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Thrust Arm Replacement for 335i - M3 vs. Turner?

Hi guys,

Was wondering if anyone had experience installing these Turner Motorsport thrust arms....worth the price difference over just getting the M3 control arm upgrade kit?

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-turner-m...e9080qis-arms/
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Hi guys,

Was wondering if anyone had experience installing these Turner Motorsport thrust arms....worth the price difference over just getting the M3 control arm upgrade kit?

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-turner-m...e9080qis-arms/
You really would pay $500.00 for two control arms?
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You really would pay $500.00 for two control arms?
Almost looks like they took the rear control arm ball joint and stuffed it into an aluminum adapter and then stuffed that into the control arm.

Edit: Just read the description and that's exactly what they did.

OP buy TRW M3 arms and done.

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The way I see it is... the G.A.S bushings only make sense if you've already got M3 arms, and Turner arms only make sense if you feel the need for the added benefit of the monoball bushings. Otherwise, go with the TRW branded M3 arms.

Are you tracking/plan on tracking this car much?
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You really would pay $500.00 for two control arms?
Almost looks like they took the rear control arm ball joint and stuffed it into an aluminum adapter and then stuffed that into the control arm.

Edit: Just read the description and that's exactly what they did.

OP buy TRW M3 arms and done.
Agreed. I really sometimes think people forget that the M3 parts are what made the M3 the legend that it was on the Nuremberg test track.
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      06-10-2019, 03:22 PM   #7
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Agreed. I really sometimes think people forget that the M3 parts are what made the M3 the legend that it was on the Nuremberg test track.
Where is that?
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The way I see it is... the G.A.S bushings only make sense if you've already got M3 arms, and Turner arms only make sense if you feel the need for the added benefit of the monoball bushings. Otherwise, go with the TRW branded M3 arms.

Are you tracking/plan on tracking this car much?
Thanks! Probably won't be tracking it more than once a year. Yeah I think M3 upgrade kit is going to be my plan, another user here bought the Turner ones and they failed within weeks for him.
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Agreed. I really sometimes think people forget that the M3 parts are what made the M3 the legend that it was on the Nuremberg test track.
Where is that?
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I'm not sure but Emilime75 may be alluding to the difference between Nuremberg (a city in Bavaria, 2-3h north of Munich) and the Nurburgring, the "Green Hell" race track on the other side of the country (West Germany near the border).
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I'm not sure but Emilime75 may be alluding to the difference between Nuremberg (a city in Bavaria, 2-3h north of Munich) and the Nurburgring, the "Green Hell" race track on the other side of the country (West Germany near the border).
He's likely asking for the video, etc. of this happening.
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I'm not sure but Emilime75 may be alluding to the difference between Nuremberg (a city in Bavaria, 2-3h north of Munich) and the Nurburgring, the "Green Hell" race track on the other side of the country (West Germany near the border).
I'm talking about the world famous test track that the e90 M3 dominated in almost every category, during its production run against a car's in its class.

The same exact parts like subframe bushings and control arms made by TRW found on that car can be put on the 335i. Unless you are tracking the car, I just don't see why anyone would need $500.00 control arms....

Jeezzz... $500.00 control arms belong on a Ferrari or something not a 335i.
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He's likely asking for the video, etc. of this happening.
No, I've honestly never heard of this track and was giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Something tells me he might've meant the Nurburgring, but maybe not.
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I'm talking about the world famous test track that the e90 M3 dominated in almost every category, during its production run against a car's in its class.

The same exact parts like subframe bushings and control arms made by TRW found on that car can be put on the 335i. Unless you are tracking the car, I just don't see why anyone would need $500.00 control arms....

Jeezzz... $500.00 control arms belong on a Ferrari or something not a 335i.
Ferrari control arms are more likely 5000$ or north of that. That said, how much are stock OEM M3 replacements?
Of course there's no "need" for $500 control arms on the street, just as much as there's no need to drive an M3 on the street. maybe even no real need on the track for these arms but it becomes very much more apparent there for sure. I find it's in everybody's own descretion to decide what they spend on parts though. Do we even "need" a car?

I never heard about that world famous test track that the E90 M3 dominated, and I guess I couldn't care less about that historical anecdote either. If you want to be productive, share some link and/or infos on it or just stop mentioning it like it was a secret that cool people like you were aware of and everyone else don't have a clue of anything.

On your point on the M3 parts though: you realize the M has a slightly different subframe and suspension setup than the AG models? So unless you change that you can't just go full M3 parts and even then, the M3 is/was sold as a street car with some kind of compliance and durability built into it, for street as well as track duty to certain extent, so there's not to say there are no better parts out there.. because mono balls, rod ends, spherical bearings, rose joints or whatever you wanna call them as a category, definitely are better (if you wanna use that simplified term), but just more expensive and not as durable (generalizing again here), as simple as that.
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I'm talking about the world famous test track that the e90 M3 dominated in almost every category, during its production run against a car's in its class.

The same exact parts like subframe bushings and control arms made by TRW found on that car can be put on the 335i. Unless you are tracking the car, I just don't see why anyone would need $500.00 control arms....

Jeezzz... $500.00 control arms belong on a Ferrari or something not a 335i.
Ferrari control arms are more likely 5000$ or north of that. That said, how much are stock OEM M3 replacements?
Of course there's no "need" for $500 control arms on the street, just as much as there's no need to drive an M3 on the street. maybe even no real need on the track for these arms but it becomes very much more apparent there for sure. I find it's in everybody's own descretion to decide what they spend on parts though. Do we even "need" a car?

I never heard about that world famous test track that the E90 M3 dominated, and I guess I couldn't care less about that historical anecdote either. If you want to be productive, share some link and/or infos on it or just stop mentioning it like it was a secret that cool people like you were aware of and everyone else don't have a clue of anything.

On your point on the M3 parts though: you realize the M has a slightly different subframe and suspension setup than the AG models? So unless you change that you can't just go full M3 parts and even then, the M3 is/was sold as a street car with some kind of compliance and durability built into it, for street as well as track duty to certain extent, so there's not to say there are no better parts out there.. because mono balls, rod ends, spherical bearings, rose joints or whatever you wanna call them as a category, definitely are better (if you wanna use that simplified term), but just more expensive and not as durable (generalizing again here), as simple as that.
Just because you haven't heard of the Nuremberg test track in Germany, isn't my problem. It's world famous. It's where all the top European Sports cars are tested to see how they measure up.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/f...ng-112133.html
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Just because you haven't heard of the Nuremberg test track in Germany, isn't my problem. It's world famous. It's where all the top European Sports cars are tested to see how they measure up.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/f...ng-112133.html
It's called the Nurburgring, located in Nurburg. Nuremberg is a different city in Germany.
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Just because you haven't heard of the Nuremberg test track in Germany, isn't my problem. It's world famous. It's where all the top European Sports cars are tested to see how they measure up.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/f...ng-112133.html
top kek I've actually been down that Nurburgring track 20 laps for my work already.

If you check your link again, you will find out it does NOT say Nuremberg (which I already politely enough pointed out some posts back, is a city in east Germany/Bavaria, you ignorant S.O.B.)
...but instead references the ring next to the village/castle of Nürburg, in west Germany next to the border. Basically that's like confusing New York City and San Francisco, although I get that these two German cities' similar names confuse your simple but yet arrogant smart ass brain.
[/rant off] (sorry for that)
No comment by you on the technical content that actually matters either huh? Well, why am I not surprised..
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