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      06-04-2021, 05:10 AM   #32297
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Seems like this thing's days are counted. With no AC going into it the humidity has taken a toll on the interior and being a 737-200 it's getting very old to mess with at the school. If it doesn't get bought at the auction It'll likely get cut up
I hate it also when these older aircraft go for scrap. Do the engines possibly get sold on say to countries with these older aircraft?
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I hate it also when these older aircraft go for scrap. Do the engines possibly get sold on say to countries with these older aircraft?
There might be a few 737-100s still flying, but there can't be many. That plane was way underpowered. Those planes are probably worth more as scrap.
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There might be a few 737-100s still flying, but there can't be many. That plane was way underpowered. Those planes are probably worth more as scrap.
I understand the alloy content worth would be justified.
I gather you're an airline pilot and was wanting to ask do FAA or Western world rules apply to these older planes in so called third world countries if they fly within their territories..
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There's been recently a few IFL Group 727s taking off from MIA that I've gotten to see and you automatically know it's either that or an MD80 from the sound. Haven't seen a 737-200 take off from here ever, at most a 300.

School will probably keep the engines if it gets cut up, number 2 worked at one point.. not the first time an old jet has gotten the saw here

Old 707 that was here way before me, some teachers say it had corrosion so they cut it up, but supposedly it turned out to be clean inside. By then it's too late
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Seems like this thing's days are counted. With no AC going into it the humidity has taken a toll on the interior and being a 737-200 it's getting very old to mess with at the school. If it doesn't get bought at the auction It'll likely get cut up
I took a tour of 205AU about a year ago. George T. Baker Aviation Technical College (formerly George T. Baker School of Aviation and in operation for over 60 years) Miami, FL. She has been here for about 10-11 years now, and as much as I hate the idea of scrapping aircraft, I am afraid that her next journey will be in pieces, and on trucks. Financially untenable at some point.
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Oh it hurts me to see an airframe cut up.
I get it - it's the best way, etc etc.
But at one time, that thing flew - it defied land-based travel - it was designed to fly.
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Oh it hurts me to see an airframe cut up.
I get it - it's the best way, etc etc.
But at one time, that thing flew - it defied land-based travel - it was designed to fly.
I live next to an airport where they repair or savage large craft and see them halved OFTEN and I feel quite the same.
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I live next to an airport where they repair or savage large craft and see them halved OFTEN and I feel quite the same.
Pinal County Airpark?
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Oh it hurts me to see an airframe cut up.
I get it - it's the best way, etc etc.
But at one time, that thing flew - it defied land-based travel - it was designed to fly.
I guess the plan is to just let all of these rot away...
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I took a tour of 205AU about a year ago. George T. Baker Aviation Technical College (formerly George T. Baker School of Aviation and in operation for over 60 years) Miami, FL. She has been here for about 10-11 years now, and as much as I hate the idea of scrapping aircraft, I am afraid that her next journey will be in pieces, and on trucks. Financially untenable at some point.
An interesting aside about the property. The building was erected in the late 1940's as a maintenance location for Eastern Airlines. It is located across what has always been a very busy road (Lejune Rd.) from Miami International Airport. Aircraft would taxi back and forth across the road when needed, and it was always a hoot to watch this. My dad would take me there on Sundays in the early 1950's to watch the aircraft come and go from MIA. Plus there was a drive in place with hamburgers and milkshakes nearby, and carhops on roller skates. Heaven for a kid with cravings for airplanes and greasy food.

By the way, that is a 737-200, not a -100, still a virtual pterodactyl. I would be willing to engage in a reasonable wager that there is not a flyable example left anywhere. I also think that this is one of only a handful of intact examples, if not the only one. It will be a shame to see her go.
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Pinal County Airpark?
No thatís further south in Tucson but I frequently pass by it though. Thatís more storage for Boeing as far as I know.
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Supposedly the school is named after the president or something of that sort of Eastern Airlines and the county tried to rename it a few times but it was donated under the condition the name wouldn't be changed which is pretty smart of a move from him. You can see the rails for the cranes for the hangar still in the classrooms and engine shop.


The practical tests for the A&P license are done with General aviation propeller airplanes so having a similar plane to the MD80 taking up space probably doesn't make sense to the school board. Maybe it would if we were allowed to run the engines on it since the MD80 has none attached to it, but overreaching safety craziness means you aren't allowed to operate jet engines hopefully it's just a bad rumor and we get to keep it
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do FAA or Western world rules apply to these older planes in so called third world countries if they fly within their territories..
No, those rules only apply when flying in the US, for the most part. The US and most other countries follow ICAO rules, so any airline wanting to operate in a country that follows ICAO rules needs to comply with the same rules. There are a bunch of airlines that are prohibited from flying in the US and EU due to their low operating standards.
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George T. Baker was the President of National Airlines headquartered here in Miami. National had taken over the maintenance facility from Eastern, and in 1958 he donated the site to the School Board of Dade County who was looking for a home for their existing Aviation Maintenance Program. In 1961 the school was named in his honor, and National Airlines made sure that it would continue under his name.

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