[benzy89]

Originally Posted by Turbo Frenetic

Oh man,you know how to convince.
Ok, first will buy COBB.

With exhaust car has less chance to be stolen))

Haha well there's no point in buying mods if you can't enjoy them. If COBB's your tune of choice, it's a great time to start using it now that ATR has come out

[benzy89]

Originally Posted by nodleecyrb

i actually think the first performane mod you buy should be an intercooler or downpipes, THEN a tune. running 14-16psi on the stock turbo's is fine and dandy, on a stock car. your turbo's lifespan will be decreased, however, with a tune-only car. with an intercooler, you'll have lower IAT's, the turbo's will run cooler. with downpipes, the less restrictive exhaust will also preserve turbo life and allow for greater efficiency.

tune-first mentality is alright for some people; i've always stressed properly preparing your car with bolt-ons ahead of time (intercooler at least)

By installing DPs on an un-tuned car, the DME will sense that the emissions are off & will trim your AFRs, which will decrease performance and can cause misfires. You'll also be forced to drive around with a SES/CEL. All the tunes (COBB, JB4, PROcede, GIAC, Dinan) run Stage 1 maps that are designed to bump up the performance without putting a damaging amount of stress on the other components of the car (turbos).

While I understand what you're saying, you're not gonna do any damage on your car unless you're running an overly aggressive tune without the required mods installed (in which case it's your own damn fault for not )

[nafoo]

Originally Posted by benzy89

By installing DPs on an un-tuned car, the DME will sense that the emissions are off & will trim your AFRs, which will decrease performance and can cause misfires. You'll also be forced to drive around with a SES/CEL. All the tunes (COBB, JB4, PROcede, GIAC, Dinan) run Stage 1 maps that are designed to bump up the performance without putting a damaging amount of stress on the other components of the car (turbos).

While I understand what you're saying, you're not gonna do any damage on your car unless you're running an overly aggressive tune without the required mods installed (in which case it's your own damn fault for not )

I went with FMIC first, but I'm from Texas.

[Turbo Frenetic]

Looks like will be better to install all together)))