[///AV_330i]

I know that a lot of companies, like dinan, have made ecu upgrades for the 325 but not the 330, because the 330's engine has already been tuned pretty agressivley and therefore not able to have that much more power extracted from it. I was looking at the TECNIC 330 (which is SO nice, btw) and saw that it had supersprint exhaust and headers, gruppe m air intake, and this ecu upgrade. I was planning on getting the BMW Performance intake/exhaust, as i was assuming that was really all that could be done to the car, until i saw this chip.

http://www.technikpower.com/site/pro...3D%26filter%3D

Do you guys think it would be effective, and really give the car +15 hp, which is what it states. (It also states that the gruppe intake will give it +15, and the supersprint headers alone will give it +14, when the BMW Performance intake and exhaust are said to give the car 5-10 each max. Just wanted your opinion on how accurate the specs for these parts are...thanks

[blackwidow99]

I dunno about technik.....but over here, we have the euro 330i (like mine) with approx 268hp (272ps). And big companies like G-power claim 15hp increase and hamann claims a +17hp with 25Nm increase. these companies are known for tuning bmw's.

Always make sure that the company have done other bmw's and do check on the forums if any member has that chip or ecu tune or watever...hope this helps.

[magmd]

meh....

My 330i is supposed to be 255hp....but when it was put on a dyno. Only 190 to the wheels.

I would make sure you know if they are talking about hp overall, or whp. If they quote up to +10 hp gain for any particular product....likely it is just an increase in 3-5 whp on a dyno based on product variability and power loss through the drivetrain.

So, only you can decide if the money you are investing is worth the whp you are getting.

Most people would tell you, that the whp gains are not worth the money you are being asked to put out for them.

[canucklion]

+ you can't 'add' all these mods' project HP together to come up with a 300+ hp figure

Originally Posted by magmd

meh....

My 330i is supposed to be 255hp....but when it was put on a dyno. Only 190 to the wheels.

I would make sure you know if they are talking about hp overall, or whp. If they quote up to +10 hp gain for any particular product....likely it is just an increase in 3-5 whp on a dyno based on product variability and power loss through the drivetrain.

So, only you can decide if the money you are investing is worth the whp you are getting.

Most people would tell you, that the whp gains are not worth the money you are being asked to put out for them.

[blackwidow99]

^ thats true.....i forgot to mention that all the numbers that ive posted are BHP not whp.

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[Willstophe]

Originally Posted by magmd

meh....

My 330i is supposed to be 255hp....but when it was put on a dyno. Only 190 to the wheels.

I would make sure you know if they are talking about hp overall, or whp. If they quote up to +10 hp gain for any particular product....likely it is just an increase in 3-5 whp on a dyno based on product variability and power loss through the drivetrain.

So, only you can decide if the money you are investing is worth the whp you are getting.

Most people would tell you, that the whp gains are not worth the money you are being asked to put out for them.

back when I dynoed my car with no 3-stage intake manifold, I dynoed it with the following and recieved 195 whp:

Dinan Ram-air Intake, DTE software, and RD Sport exhaust.

Those gave me 195 to the wheels. Now I have the 3-stage intake manifold with EVOTech's Stage I 330i software. I will be swapping my software for the Technik Stage II though.

[Willstophe]

What I'm saying is you had a bad dyno. Because if you're getting 190 to the wheels, basically a 325 with software intake and exhaust has more hp.

[magmd]

Originally Posted by Willstophe

What I'm saying is you had a bad dyno. Because if you're getting 190 to the wheels, basically a 325 with software intake and exhaust has more hp.

Well, the dyno was done by Technik when they used to be in Marina Del Rey...so, I believe those numbers were accurate on that day for my car (192-195 depending on the run).

Of course if you take a 325 and do software, intake and exhaust...you will gain some hp. But...you are still only approaching what a stock 330 can do. And if you are going above it....by how much? 5-15 hp? How much did all that cost? $250-$300 per hp? Plus, take a 330 to begin with...how much will the numbers change if you try to do any of those mods....NOT BY MUCH.

Not worth it to me. Because the OP is asking about ECU upgrades for the 330 and whether anything is worth it. If OP was asking about changes to 325....then you can consider things to be more bang for the buck. (but not by much!)

[magmd]

Ahhh...here we go. Found out our result for that day. All stock cars. 330 6MT vs 330 step vs 325 6MT vs 325 step. You be the judge of what is worth it or not based on what they are trying to sell you.

[canucklion]

Willstophe, post your dyno!!!

where's your dyno? every time we ask you for the dyno, you disappear for a long time, then come back again to make the same claim over and over again

Originally Posted by Willstophe

back when I dynoed my car with no 3-stage intake manifold, I dynoed it with the following and recieved 195 whp:

Dinan Ram-air Intake, DTE software, and RD Sport exhaust.

Those gave me 195 to the wheels. Now I have the 3-stage intake manifold with EVOTech's Stage I 330i software. I will be swapping my software for the Technik Stage II though.

[canucklion]

July 29, 2008

Originally Posted by Willstophe

Deffinently felt the change for sure. Huge gain in power and torque. Gonna get Technik Engineering Headers tomorrow. Nother 14 HP right there. I'm pretty curious to see what the dyno will be.

Right now my mods are as follows:

RD Sport exhaust (secondary cat deleted)

Dynan Ram-Air Intake

3-stage intake manifold along with stage I 330i performance software by EVOtech Engineering.

....This is gonna be interesting.

July 31, 2008

Originally Posted by Willstophe

Just ordered them. Will be here in 3 - 5 days. Very excited .

Dyno on the car this friday then after the headers.

Originally Posted by Willstophe

here we go:

I wanna do it in the daytime though so that you can see better so I'll do it again in the morning. And again if anyone has a stock 330i that lives around Orange County that would be willing to meet up that'd be great.

Originally Posted by Willstophe

There you go guys . I'm gonna do some runs. I'm trying to find a stock 330i to compare if anyone wants to help me out.

I want to see your modded 325 keeping up with a 335

Originally Posted by Willstophe

I never said it ran with the 335i...although yes it's deffinently keeping up. 335 is still ahead but the gap is a lot smaller than it was before.

My favorite quotes below:

Originally Posted by Willstophe

Guy 1: Nice Bimmer. Is it fast?

Guy 2: Yup I love it and it handles awesome.

Guy 1: Yah I bet but do you think you can take my Civic SI?

Guy 2: Let's go: VANOS v V-TEC bitch.



....I was laughing my ass off....

Originally Posted by Flea7

your 325i is not that much faster.

[///AV_330i]

Originally Posted by canucklion

Willstophe, post your dyno!!!

where's your dyno? every time we ask you for the dyno, you disappear for a long time, then come back again to make the same claim over and over again

Either way, i already have a 330, i was just trying to see if the ECU upgrade would be effective on my car, i kno it would help a 325. So when he says that he noticed a "HUGE DIFFERENCE IN PERFORMANCE," it probably just got it closer to the stock performance of my car, which...doesnt really mean that the chip will help mine.

[canucklion]

just as predicted, willstophe ran away AGAIN.

[blue2fire]

Hope he comes back for more Kinder Surprise.

[shahsk30]

http://www.technikpower.com/site/pro...3D%26filter%3D


Is this even possible? +37 hp just with a intake, chip and headers

[lookylookitzadam]

to the crank yes, you will only get about 10-15 to the wheels tho

[just4kickz]

Originally Posted by ///AV_330i

Either way, i already have a 330, i was just trying to see if the ECU upgrade would be effective on my car, i kno it would help a 325. So when he says that he noticed a "HUGE DIFFERENCE IN PERFORMANCE," it probably just got it closer to the stock performance of my car, which...doesnt really mean that the chip will help mine.

or he cud have been just hearing things... butt dyno. you can't tell how much power you have by just accelerating and going through the gears... which is probably what he did.

[shahsk30]

Originally Posted by lookylookitzadam

to the crank yes, you will only get about 10-15 to the wheels tho

so its a waste of money