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      03-11-2019, 09:23 PM   #1
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JB4+data cable + tablet?

I've posted this in a few different subforums and really don't know where it belongs, but I'll try here too:


I'm looking for workarounds to dropping $140 on JB4 Bluetooth connect. I've used Bluetooth transmitters/receivers for Bluetooth devices with my desktop such as keyboards, mice etc.

I am wondering if there's some way to connect the BMS data cable to a Bluetooth transmitter and then have a windows-OS (is Android an option?) tablet inside the car with a Bluetooth receiver. I haven't bought a tablet yet but I'm trying to see what my options are before I pick one up or run the data cable through the car.

Any ideas?

Edit: realized this sub is for n55 but I don't think it makes a difference in this case

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I got a JB4 bluetooth connect I'll sell you for $100 shipped.
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I got a JB4 bluetooth connect I'll sell you for $100 shipped.
I may end up having to go this route, but trying to look at other options before I do. I'll PM you once I'm out of ideas haha
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Looks like I can fish the BMS data cable through, then go through an OTG cable to an android device. Anyone have any experience with this sort of setup?
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For those wondering this can be had for very cheap.

Buy an Amazon fire 7
Usb male to female 5ft (to extend BMS data cable)
Usb to micro usb OTG Cable
Window mount tablet holder
Jb4 connect app

All together can be had for less than $100 which is at least 50% cheaper than the Bluetooth connect kit
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I've posted this in a few different subforums and really don't know where it belongs, but I'll try here too:


I'm looking for workarounds to dropping $140 on JB4 Bluetooth connect. I've used Bluetooth transmitters/receivers for Bluetooth devices with my desktop such as keyboards, mice etc.

I am wondering if there's some way to connect the BMS data cable to a Bluetooth transmitter and then have a windows-OS (is Android an option?) tablet inside the car with a Bluetooth receiver. I haven't bought a tablet yet but I'm trying to see what my options are before I pick one up or run the data cable through the car.

Any ideas?

Edit: realized this sub is for n55 but I don't think it makes a difference in this case
i have been thinking about this also for sometime... (jb4 homebrew bluetooth adapter) i ordered a few things and going to see what i can do. they will be here saturday. ill update you if it works or not.
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i have been thinking about this also for sometime... (jb4 homebrew bluetooth adapter) i ordered a few things and going to see what i can do. they will be here saturday. ill update you if it works or not.
I'm sure you're going to run into some kind of licensing/code issue. BMS doesn't even make the BT connect, that is a third party company providing that for BMS. I'm sure there is some kind of proprietary information between the two so they can connect.

In my experience, stick to the cable. The bluetooth will drop out during user adjustment settings and cause limp mode. In some cases the distance between the DME box and CD player was too far for it to even connect. I know I'm not the only one that had this issue. I had to make a RS232 extension into my cabin so the BT wouldn't loose connection.
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i have been thinking about this also for sometime... (jb4 homebrew bluetooth adapter) i ordered a few things and going to see what i can do. they will be here saturday. ill update you if it works or not.
Yeah let me know how it goes, but I ended up going with the parts I listed. In the end it's much cheaper than the Bluetooth connect kit and it includes a device dedicated to gages and a mount too. Seems like a no brainer to me if you're willing to pull a little cable under your dashboard (not difficult at all!)
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I'm sure you're going to run into some kind of licensing/code issue. BMS doesn't even make the BT connect, that is a third party company providing that for BMS. I'm sure there is some kind of proprietary information between the two so they can connect.

In my experience, stick to the cable. The bluetooth will drop out during user adjustment settings and cause limp mode. In some cases the distance between the DME box and CD player was too far for it to even connect. I know I'm not the only one that had this issue. I had to make a RS232 extension into my cabin so the BT wouldn't loose connection.
pretty sure your right, but its worth a shot. if it doesnt work ill just use it to convert something else to blue tooth. i ordered 2 possible solutions one would cost very little. but we will have to see first if it works. hopefully it does and if not owell haha.
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You’ll need all that hardware for MHD once you get tired of JB4.
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You’ll need all that hardware for MHD once you get tired of JB4.
doubt it, aint nothing like a backend + JB4 on my n54. But to each their own.
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pretty sure your right, but its worth a shot. if it doesnt work ill just use it to convert something else to blue tooth. i ordered 2 possible solutions one would cost very little. but we will have to see first if it works. hopefully it does and if not owell haha.
Did you get anywhere with making a Bluetooth adaptor for your jb4?

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Did you get anywhere with making a Bluetooth adaptor for your jb4?

Cheers

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both methods I tried did not work. they have it locked down pretty well lol. I would suggest just spending the cash on the official version. I ended up just getting one.
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