[Erebor]

Originally Posted by F93_88

Of course not; it was only recently decided from PK to build a G51 and a G88

Good to know. Curios when we will get the first news about this. If they want to start production in 28-29, they need to release their prototypes soon.

[F93_88]

Originally Posted by Erebor

Good to know. Curios when we will get the first news about this. If they want to start production in 28-29, they need to release their prototypes soon.

The synchronization plan for the G51 is currently being set up. The scheduled SOP for mid-2028 is currently under review. In order to keep this date, work on the virtual assembly must begin soon. The G88 will follow later.

[Sudtirol]

Originally Posted by F93_88

The synchronization plan for the G51 is currently being set up. The scheduled SOP for mid-2028 is currently under review. In order to keep this date, work on the virtual assembly must begin soon. The G88 will follow later.

What does this mean for the ZA1 in the US? I know ynguldyn said NA1 is doubtful

[Turbanator]

Originally Posted by F93_88

The synchronization plan for the G51 is currently being set up. The scheduled SOP for mid-2028 is currently under review. In order to keep this date, work on the virtual assembly must begin soon. The G88 will follow later.

You also mentioned a G89 SWB M3 (M4?) in another thread. Is there anywhere else we can find this information? G88 makes sense (other than chassis code, why not G85 as there's no G25 to confuse it with) since the Touring exists as the G51, but a G89 seems very questionable without a G52 to match.

[F93_88]

Originally Posted by Turbanator

You also mentioned a G89 SWB M3 (M4?) in another thread. Is there anywhere else we can find this information? G88 makes sense (other than chassis code, why not G85 as there's no G25 to confuse it with) since the Touring exists as the G51, but a G89 seems very questionable without a G52 to match.

The derivative code G85 was originally intended for the short M3 (a new entry-level M model). However, the code was later cancelled and replaced by the code G89. Of course, there will also be an AG model with the corresponding code.

And there will no longer be any logic behind the codes in the next G series for HP Cars. The codes will be assigned randomly, so there won’t be any need to follow a specific logic.

For the BEV models of the Neue Klasse, there is a logic behind the codes, and this will also exist again for all future ICE vehicles (after 2033) with completely new codes—provided that combustion engines actually remain.

[Turbanator]

Originally Posted by F93_88

The derivative code G85 was originally intended for the short M3 (a new entry-level M model). However, the code was later cancelled and replaced by the code G89. Of course, there will also be an AG model with the corresponding code.

And there will no longer be any logic behind the codes in the next G series for HP Cars. The codes will be assigned randomly, so there won’t be any need to follow a specific logic.

For the BEV models of the Neue Klasse, there is a logic behind the codes, and this will also exist again for all future ICE vehicles (after 2033) with completely new codes—provided that combustion engines actually remain.

I gotta say, what's the point of a short 3er/M3 if the G42/87 exists? The whole reason the 3er Compact ended was because it was replaced by the 1er and then 2er. That is unless the G85 was intended to be a successor to the G87... which would be a bit awkward.

[F93_88]

Originally Posted by Turbanator

I gotta say, what's the point of a short 3er/M3 if the G42/87 exists? The whole reason the 3er Compact ended was because it was replaced by the 1er and then 2er. That is unless the G85 was intended to be a successor to the G87... which would be a bit awkward.

The reason that a short M3 is even being considered is because there will no longer be a 2 Series. And since there will be no 2 Series anymore, the M GmbH also can no longer offer an M2 or offer a successor to an M2. And that is the whole story behind why they are thinking about building a short M3, and that would correspond to the successor of the M2, and that would be the new entry-level model for the M GmbH.

And what is currently being assessed, and the problem with that, is why the topic has also not yet been decided finally. If a successor M2 is built on the same platform as the 3 Series, then, of course, you cannot offer it as cheaply as the G87. And therefore, it is not yet 100% fixed that this model will actually be produced.

[javapro]

ynguldyn or hb,

apparently some dealers are telling some of our iX forum members that 2026 was the last year for iX and it has reached the end of its life. Indeed, currently, there are almost no allocations left for 2026 iX in the US. Do you know if it's because of a changeover to 2027 model year and iX will have its EOP on 06/2028 as reported in this thread or has iX been discontinued abruptly?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by javapro

ynguldyn or hb,

apparently some dealers are telling some of our iX forum members that 2026 was the last year for iX and it has reached the end of its life. Indeed, currently, there are almost no allocations left for 2026 iX in the US. Do you know if it's because of a changeover to 2027 model year and iX will have its EOP on 06/2028 as reported in this thread or has iX been discontinued abruptly?

45 is questionable. The rest are not.

[Sudtirol]

ynguldyn Does a G58 model actually exist or will NA8 exclusively become the new LWB 3 series?

Not sure if you leave it out because of regional differences or it doesn't exist/the business case was canceled. Seems logical that they'd kill it. China is electrifying rapidly and NA8 is much more advanced to keep up with local competitors and tuned to Chinese tastes. If you still want a LWB ICE car, you have the LWB 2 Series and 5 Series. Plus they keep dropping price on ICE model in the market and are looking to simplify number of offerings overall.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Sudtirol

ynguldyn Does a G58 model actually exist

I'm seeing everything that I would expect at this stage.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by MugF

Does anybody know the release date of the i3? I think it will be in march but when exactly.

Originally Posted by javapro

March? The new i3 hasn’t even been revealed yet! According to the info in the main message in this thread, i3 SOP is July, 2026.

Originally Posted by BMW Life

BMW just yesterday communicated that the "design premiere" (=final official photos and specs revealed) of the new NA0 i3 will be on the 18th of March: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...the-new-bmw-i3

This is almost record-early reveal compared to the SOP of July, usually the majority of official reveals for July SOP have been around May.

I think ynguldyn starts to have the specs as we speak. Personally I expect the range of i3 50 xDrive to be around 900 km.

The new BMW i3 50 xDrive | Info and Specs

[Mtaylor84]

ynguldyn does this mean the G81 end production in Feb now instead of predicted nov 27? If so when do we expect last order dates?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Mtaylor84

ynguldyn does this mean the G81 end production in Feb now instead of predicted nov 27? If so when do we expect last order dates?

That's what the top post already says. I don't answer dealership related questions.

[TurboSpecC]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

45 is questionable. The rest are not.

What does this mean? The rest are definitely dead or definitely alive?

[Sudtirol]

Originally Posted by TurboSpecC

What does this mean? The rest are definitely dead or definitely alive?

Per the leak on the BMW USA parts page it looks like the iX 45 will not get a 2027 model likely because the first iX5 will replace it. The other ones likely get phased out as the faster iX5s get released.

[TurboSpecC]

Originally Posted by Sudtirol

Per the leak on the BMW USA parts page it looks like the iX 45 will not get a 2027 model likely because the first iX5 will replace it. The other ones likely get phased out as the faster iX5s get released.

Do you have a link to this?

[Sudtirol]

Originally Posted by TurboSpecC

Do you have a link to this?

See screenshot