How safe is MHD Stg1+FMIC for DD

007_e350 · 10-02-2015, 10:23 PM

I've been on it for 10k miles or so, last night I got cyl 1 misfire & Injector plausability - I also have alpina B3 trans flash
Anyone using map for daily driving ?

stanlalee · 10-03-2015, 07:49 AM

Its a safe tune. Nothing like some of the aggressive custom Wedge tunes your probably referencing for concerns. You have OFT in your signature. If you ran that stage 1 on that has more boost and timing.

007_e350 · 10-03-2015, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by stanlalee

Its a safe tune. Nothing like some of the aggressive custom Wedge tunes your probably referencing for concerns. You have OFT in your signature. If you ran that stage 1 on that has more boost and timing.

OFT was a mess, but anyway this one feels stronger .. do u think its worth upgrading to v5, I heard boost kicks in way down in the rpm, I have alpina so I'm shifting at 1300 sometimes lol

theweebabySeamus · 10-03-2015, 02:54 PM

Just curious as I'm looking to start running it- what're the boost levels on stage 1? I'm at 108k and not looking to tax the turbos too much.

CarAbuser · 10-03-2015, 04:56 PM

I don't think are at risk of breaking anything with that map. If it's the one that targets 15PSI peak and tapers down to 11 then you can relax.

theweebabySeamus · 10-03-2015, 05:03 PM

Thanks Car.

Fresh off a belt in the crankcase and the following VCG, oil pan gasket, OFHG, and new injectors for bank 1, I've learned that relax doesn't work well for this car. Lol

CarAbuser · 10-03-2015, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by theweebabySeamus

Thanks Car.

Fresh off a belt in the crankcase and the following VCG, oil pan gasket, OFHG, and new injectors for bank 1, I've learned that relax doesn't work well for this car. Lol

Things break on the N54 regardless of the map. Part of the experience

montegokid94 · 10-03-2015, 06:34 PM

How's this compare to jb4 map 5?

I am interested in buying the tablet and this flash but only to pass inspection lol. Not really a fan of aggressive tunes or pushing car max never even ran e85 or meth.

I am FBO btw

007_e350 · 10-16-2015, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by montegokid94

How's this compare to jb4 map 5?

I am interested in buying the tablet and this flash but only to pass inspection lol. Not really a fan of aggressive tunes or pushing car max never even ran e85 or meth.

I am FBO btw

I think its stronger up top ... very smooth and consistent

parksjm7 · 10-16-2015, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CarAbuser

I don't think are at risk of breaking anything with that map. If it's the one that targets 15PSI peak and tapers down to 11 then you can relax.

The response I got from MHD is that the stage 1 plus maps for both octanes is 17PSI, and 14 PSI for non-fmic maps. Personally, I'd stick to the 14 psi for DD with stock downpipes

mike@x-ph.com · 10-16-2015, 04:00 PM

I hear OTS maps are very conservative, similar to Cobb's OTS maps.
If you are worried about it, all you have to do is post a log so we can check it out

JasW · 10-16-2015, 06:15 PM

I run a custom Wedge tune on an FBO car that's my daily. But I don't I beat the hell out of my car daily.

WedgePerformance · 10-16-2015, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by parksjm7

The response I got from MHD is that the stage 1 plus maps for both octanes is 17PSI, and 14 PSI for non-fmic maps. Personally, I'd stick to the 14 psi for DD with stock downpipes

Not sure why people assume the cats on this car are not high flow considering we have seen over 425 whp on DMACC's car with stock DPs back in the day when Shiv started playing with E85.

I ran over 600 whp with my stock cat back exhaust @ 28 psi. I highly doubt a 17 psi map would have an issue with stock down pipes. But making assumptions is what most people do with regard to this platform.

parksjm7 · 10-16-2015, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

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Originally Posted by parksjm7

The response I got from MHD is that the stage 1 plus maps for both octanes is 17PSI, and 14 PSI for non-fmic maps. Personally, I'd stick to the 14 psi for DD with stock downpipes

Not sure why people assume the cats on this car are not high flow considering we have seen over 425 whp on DMACC's car with stock DPs back in the day when Shiv started playing with E85.

I ran over 600 whp with my stock cat back exhaust @ 28 psi. I highly doubt a 17 psi map would have an issue with stock down pipes. But making assumptions is what most people do with regard to this platform.

That's why we need your input - would you say running at 17 shortens the life of stock turbos versus 14? I understand your point that the stock system can handle some abuse, my concern is, for how long?

Some Asian Guy · 10-16-2015, 11:27 PM

I've been on MHD stage 1+fmic for about 2 months/3k miles with no issues so far. I also have the alpina flash.

924er · 10-16-2015, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JasW

I run a custom Wedge tune on an FBO car that's my daily. But I don't I beat the hell out of my car daily.

Same but I don't think mine is aggressive

WedgePerformance · 10-17-2015, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by parksjm7

That's why we need your input - would you say running at 17 shortens the life of stock turbos versus 14? I understand your point that the stock system can handle some abuse, my concern is, for how long?

Anytime you increase power you put more stress on parts. Very important that you use a quality oil and change it more frequently. I ran my stock turbos at 20 psi for over two years before I upgraded them at 100k miles. Car has over 100k miles and makes over 600 whp now. Just because it has 100k doesn't mean it's glass.

TrollToll · 10-17-2015, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

Not sure why people assume the cats on this car are not high flow considering we have seen over 425 whp on DMACC's car with stock DPs back in the day when Shiv started playing with E85.

I ran over 600 whp with my stock cat back exhaust @ 28 psi. I highly doubt a 17 psi map would have an issue with stock down pipes. But making assumptions is what most people do with regard to this platform.

So do stage 2 maps not actually require exhaust modifications?

marcvtec · 10-17-2015, 08:25 PM

FYI
i've been running 19 psi on my stock turbo's with FBO since 2008.
Not a single issue, and i changed my turbos a few months ago because i hatted the rattle.
170xxxKM + on my car. Wedge is currently tuning and I am still running 19 PSI daily. And love it.
These turbos will hold 18-19 psi no problem for years in my experience.
its all about logging and tuning.

mex2309 · 10-17-2015, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 007_e350

OFT was a mess, but anyway this one feels stronger .. do u think its worth upgrading to v5, I heard boost kicks in way down in the rpm, I have alpina so I'm shifting at 1300 sometimes lol

I'm still on open flash table, map 1. I've had it for a while and to me it feels smooth and consistent. In your experience, how does MHD feel compare to OFT?

WedgePerformance · 10-18-2015, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere90

So do stage 2 maps not actually require exhaust modifications?

I honestly don't think you would see much change in power if you were to run the stage 2 with stock DPs vs Catless. If anyone is interested in testing this PM me. I would even consider splitting the cost of the dyno for a good write-up..

suprchrgd · 10-18-2015, 08:45 AM

ive been running the jb4/backend flash,e60 on 18-19# for 3 years. been running the mhd e40 map for a few months now on e45-e50. this is my daily driver and i "drive" it everyday. She typically sees wot everyday! zero issues so far.

my turbos were replaced at 60k under warranty by the previous owner. i now have 115000 miles on the car.

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stanlalee Major 261 Rep 1,093 Posts Drives: 07' E92 335i manual Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Newport News, Va iTrader: (0)	Its a safe tune. Nothing like some of the aggressive custom Wedge tunes your probably referencing for concerns. You have OFT in your signature. If you ran that stage 1 on that has more boost and timing.
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theweebabySeamus Captain 373 Rep 901 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (1)	Just curious as I'm looking to start running it- what're the boost levels on stage 1? I'm at 108k and not looking to tax the turbos too much.
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CarAbuser Lieutenant Colonel 468 Rep 1,535 Posts Drives: Z4 35i DCT / E92 335i DCT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	I don't think are at risk of breaking anything with that map. If it's the one that targets 15PSI peak and tapers down to 11 then you can relax.
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theweebabySeamus Captain 373 Rep 901 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (1)	Thanks Car. Fresh off a belt in the crankcase and the following VCG, oil pan gasket, OFHG, and new injectors for bank 1, I've learned that relax doesn't work well for this car. Lol
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Some Asian Guy Second Lieutenant 69 Rep 244 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW X5 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: DFW, TX iTrader: (0)	I've been on MHD stage 1+fmic for about 2 months/3k miles with no issues so far. I also have the alpina flash.
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marcvtec Banned 407 Rep 2,704 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: toronto iTrader: (0)	FYI i've been running 19 psi on my stock turbo's with FBO since 2008. Not a single issue, and i changed my turbos a few months ago because i hatted the rattle. 170xxxKM + on my car. Wedge is currently tuning and I am still running 19 PSI daily. And love it. These turbos will hold 18-19 psi no problem for years in my experience. its all about logging and tuning.
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suprchrgd Private First Class 16 Rep 185 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Noblesville, IN iTrader: (6)	ive been running the jb4/backend flash,e60 on 18-19# for 3 years. been running the mhd e40 map for a few months now on e45-e50. this is my daily driver and i "drive" it everyday. She typically sees wot everyday! zero issues so far. my turbos were replaced at 60k under warranty by the previous owner. i now have 115000 miles on the car. __________________ 2008 335i MHD e40 Flash,VRSF FBO,255 Walbro,Alpina Flash 11.993@119mph
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