[dwykstra]

This was posted in another thread about the SSTT

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=44


I haven't heard anything about the Dinan flash and blown turbos. Anyone know anything about this?

[5soko]

again like somone said, there have been engine blown up in stock condition, one of the first 335i to be released blew up, there pictures and everything.
i really doubt that the dinan had anything to do with it.

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by 5sokol335icoupe

again like somone said, there have been engine blown up in stock condition, one of the first 335i to be released blew up, there pictures and everything.
i really doubt that the dinan had anything to do with it.

+1, we can all say we heard that one tune blew up one car this one time.....

[dwykstra]

I've heard the rumor about blown turbos before, just never heard it linked to Dinan as suggested here.

[O-cha]

What a joke, dinans tune is extremely conservative. If something like that was blowing turbos every single JB procede and XEDE customer would be in the shop.

[Orb]

Originally Posted by dwykstra

This was posted in another thread about the SSTT

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=44


I haven't heard anything about the Dinan flash and blown turbos. Anyone know anything about this?

You think Jeff, a supporting vendor, doesn't have an agenda. Only have to read the threads were Shiv ass raped his products to know he is a con man.

There are a few TSB for turbos problem and most have to waste gate and seems to isolated to a production from what I read. Jeff is complete technical idiot for one and nothing more than mouth piece for his crappy resistor box. God, if only people knew what this Turbo Tuner system does as it is reactive and damage is done constantly. This is what happens when you mess with sensor for critical information for mass flow rationalization. You make a proactive system into reactive one because true mass flow can’t be know by the ECU.

Orb

[HyperM3]

Ive seen two bros get blown all the time in good porn.

[BzzzBom]

Originally Posted by Orb

You think Jeff, a supporting vendor, doesn't have an agenda. Only have to read the threads were Shiv ass raped his products to know he is a con man.

There are a few TSB for turbos problem and most have to waste gate and seems to isolated to a production from what I read. Jeff is complete technical idiot for one and nothing more than mouth piece for his crappy resistor box. God, if only people knew what this Turbo Tuner system does as it is reactive and damage is done constantly. This is what happens when you mess with sensor for critical information for mass flow rationalization. You make a proactive system into reactive one because true mass flow can’t be know by the ECU.

Orb

Over a dozen BMW dealerships sell the SSTT. Maybe they know somethng you don't.

[Terrance28]

And it also won an award, so what are you talking about. I guess they give out awards to people who make crappy resistor boxes.

[Bubbles]

Propaganda...the flash must be cutting into TT sales.

But if it is true and the failure is due to increased boost from the "moderate" Dinan Flash, those running more boost have a cause for concern.

Sounds like a fantastic test for the Dinan warranty.

[5soko]

no1 said it was the dinan flashes fault. just that the car had the flash on it. interesting would be the warranty experience for that person with the flash on it and who will take care of what.

for whats it worth, dinan reports a 13.2 psi max boost? where is this recorded from? anyone got dynos with boost log?
also 13.2 is not that moderate.
but like i said before there no proove it was directly related so, just another floater

[5soko]

Originally Posted by Orb

You think Jeff, a supporting vendor, doesn't have an agenda. Only have to read the threads were Shiv ass raped his products to know he is a con man.

There are a few TSB for turbos problem and most have to waste gate and seems to isolated to a production from what I read. Jeff is complete technical idiot for one and nothing more than mouth piece for his crappy resistor box. God, if only people knew what this Turbo Tuner system does as it is reactive and damage is done constantly. This is what happens when you mess with sensor for critical information for mass flow rationalization. You make a proactive system into reactive one because true mass flow can’t be know by the ECU.

Orb

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by 5sokol335icoupe

no1 said it was the dinan flashes fault. just that the car had the flash on it. interesting would be the warranty experience for that person with the flash on it and who will take care of what.

for whats it worth, dinan reports a 13.2 psi max boost? where is this recorded from? anyone got dynos with boost log?
also 13.2 is not that moderate.
but like i said before there no proove it was directly related so, just another floater

Agreed, it is my understanding the max boost is actually closer to 13.6 psi. Again, if it is true I look forward to the warranty results.

[Orb]

Originally Posted by Terrance28

And it also won an award, so what are you talking about. I guess they give out awards to people who make crappy resistor boxes.

I'm talking about the Turbo Tuner is nothing more than hack and most us know this. It is truly simple and robust but certainly not safe in the long term. I guess we shall give Terry Burger an award as well...no

Orb

[5soko]

Originally Posted by Orb

I'm talking about the Turbo Tuner is nothing more than hack and most us know this. it turly simple and roubst and certainly not safe long term

I'm talking about the Turbo Tuner is nothing more than hack and most us know this. It is truly simple and robust but certainly not safe in the long term. I guess we shall give Terry Burger an award as well...no

Orb

incorrect-sorry try again.


it was a god damn rumor. one of the mebers turbo blew up is everyone gonna blame the JB2HHR on it now? and yes it did have the jb2 on it, OMFG jb2 was the main cause.

cmon guys, ur getting a lil too sensitive, things happen, either directly or indirectly related to the tune, i thought we have seen enough exampels of this but it seems everyone wants some drama action on the internet.

[jaaz]

Guys, be careful what you say about a company's product, whether that company is Dinan, Split Second or another company. Unless what you are saying is true and you can prove it, these days making a comment (or in some cases even insinuating) that a company's product "blew the turbos in a car" or "damages the car constantly" can buy you a nice defamation lawsuit (libel, to be exact).

[Orb]

Originally Posted by 5sokol335icoupe

incorrect-sorry try again.


it was a god damn rumor. one of the mebers turbo blew up is everyone gonna blame the JB2HHR on it now? and yes it did have the jb2 on it, OMFG jb2 was the main cause.

cmon guys, ur getting a lil too sensitive, things happen, either directly or indirectly related to the tune, i thought we have seen enough exampels of this but it seems everyone wants some drama action on the internet.

There nothing incorrect in what I said and if don’t know your real mass flow then your reactive…it is that simple and not a good system control by any means. If you want to purpose how mass flow is interrupted then by all means the floor is yours.

Orb

[5soko]

Originally Posted by Orb

There nothing incorrect in what I said and if don’t know your real mass flow then your reactive…it is that simple and not a good system control by any means. If you want to purpose the how mass flow is interrupted then by all means the floor is yours.

Orb

what else can i say except prove it , it seems u kno alot about the product. or just ask split second themselves. from what i kno the SSTT is one of the best selling and popular products for the 335i out there. Split Second have been tuning cars for many years and have made the SSTT work awesome with the N54 while keeping a safe PSI, using there own built in heat temp protection system and still actively using the N54's safety system.
im not gonna come down to ur level and disgrace ur DINAN loving ways.

[Orb]

Originally Posted by 5sokol335icoupe

what else can i say except prove it , it seems u kno alot about the product. or just ask split second themselves. from what i kno the SSTT is one of the best selling and popular products for the 335i out there. Split Second have been tuning cars for many years and have made the SSTT work awesome with the N54 while keeping a safe PSI, using there own built in heat temp protection system and still actively using the N54's safety system.
im not gonna come down to ur level and disgrace ur DINAN loving ways.

Mass flow is partly determined by the T-map sensor which by the way is the signal that is altered by the Turbo Tuner. The T-map is not enough to determine mass flow so it must be rationalized. The missing a part to get mass flow is volumetric efficiency and RPM which is determine by a table a look up based on information of the T-map which again is being altered by the Turbo tuner. I doubt the table even has values for higher boost. The ambient temperature and O2 sensor will be used to assist in the rationalization of mass flow as well.

Please tell me how the Turbo Tuner can calculate mass flow. I know it can’t. It is a reactive situation and adjustments are made by other sensors to correct fuel/air mixture well after the fact. I do say as rationalization as tweaks to calculation can be done in many ways for other sources of data. The next question you should ask it what else is dependant on this system because you can be sure that there is more. For a company like Turbo tuner to characterize this system is beyond there resource so the assumption is they haven’t yet.

You got to be kidding me of that protection circuit. It should be called don’t let me go into limp mode because I’m not sure what to do. It is really a bit of a joke. There is no real intelligence with the product period and Shiv has beaten this to death already.

In the end it is a passive control system and nothing more than hack. BTW, if the facts sink me to a level of a troll so be it….it is only the internet.

Orb

[radgator1]

Originally Posted by Terrance28

And it also won an award, so what are you talking about. I guess they give out awards to people who make crappy resistor boxes.

It is a resistor box, but not a crappy one. Actually a very nice one with nice packaging and OEM clips and everything. It's a pretty safe product since it is pretty conservative in how much it raises boost.

[Biostockman]

Many legal cases have been decided solely upon electronic information such as email, blogs, etc... Good luck!

[Terrance28]

I have not read 1 post about the TT that put a car into limp mode, and every customer that bought one is very happy with it. And its being sold at more than a dozen BMW dealerships, so it must be doing something right, for a crappy resistor box.