Warranty Voided!!!! Procede Users Beware!!!

M3KILL3R · 09-26-2007, 08:57 AM

ok so basically...i took my car in for break change and some type of emmisions recall they had...they called back the next day, and my service consultant said "well it looks like you had a procede software installed on your car" funny thing is i tried to deny it and basically they told me that they voided my Engine warranty. now i took off all the wiring and everything off my car. now i have absolulty no clue of how they found out, but waht my service consultant told me is this "well the way we noticed is that one of your "boost" valve's is beign bypassed and thats caused from the procede"

still havnt picked up my car. will pick it up 2marrow and see whats going on...

just giving u guys an heads up for anyone going in for service!

ill keep you guys updated on this situation.

Any suggestions of what i should do!?

ArmyBimmerDude · 09-26-2007, 09:01 AM

Wow. They can't just up and say your warranty is voided. From other threads, I was led to believe the only way that can happen is if they prove that your modification caused the problem.

I think the Vishnu Procede is kinda well known to dealerships now and they're attempting to get you to confess. Either that or you didnt hook everything up correctly when you deinstalled it.

Orient330iNYC · 09-26-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by M3KILL3R

ok so basically...i took my car in for break change and some type of emmisions recall they had...they called back the next day, and my service consultant said "well it looks like you had a procede software installed on your car" funny thing is i tried to deny it and basically they told me that they voided my Engine warranty. now i took off all the wiring and everything off my car. now i have absolulty no clue of how they found out, but waht my service consultant told me is this "well the way we noticed is that one of your "boost" valve's is beign bypassed and thats caused from the procede"

still havnt picked up my car. will pick it up 2marrow and see whats going on...

just giving u guys an heads up for anyone going in for service!

ill keep you guys updated on this situation.

Any suggestions of what i should do!?

did you forget to redo the boost solenoid vacuum tubing?

KL2DC · 09-26-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Wow. They can't just up and say your warranty is voided. From other threads, I was led to believe the only way that can happen is if they prove that your modification caused the problem.

I think the Vishnu Procede is kinda well known to dealerships now and they're attempting to get you to confess. Either that or you didnt hook everything up correctly when you deinstalled it.

+1 I agree....

They can't just void the entire warranty like that.

Of course your 'Procede just kicked in yo' t-shirt didn't help matters much while you were at the dealership

BoostedBMW · 09-26-2007, 09:06 AM

I'm sorry to hear that... dealing with SA's and warranty claims when your car is stock is never fun, and when its modified its just even more stress. Best of luck with dealing with those tards, but if the procede itself wasn't in the car then I would just deny it. If there only proof is that one of your solenoids was bypassed then tell them that the vac line must of fell off. Now, get ready for all of the saints to chime in and tell you about morals and ethics, and how you are going to put that dealership and/or BMW out of business if you retain your engine warranty.

SMOKE EM IF U GOT EM!! · 09-26-2007, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KL2DC

Of course your 'Procede just kicked in yo' t-shirt didn't help matters much while you were at the dealership

lmfao dude!

M3KILL3R · 09-26-2007, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

I think the Vishnu Procede is kinda well known to dealerships now and they're attempting to get you to confess. Either that or you didnt hook everything up correctly when you deinstalled it.

it is actually well known a few of my friends told me to watch out that they've caught on.
i know for a fact i took all the harness cables out and everything. it looked stock! unless i fuckn missed a wire! god damnit. loll

sky · 09-26-2007, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by M3KILL3R

ok so basically...i took my car in for break change and some type of emmisions recall they had...they called back the next day, and my service consultant said "well it looks like you had a procede software installed on your car" funny thing is i tried to deny it and basically they told me that they voided my Engine warranty. now i took off all the wiring and everything off my car. now i have absolulty no clue of how they found out, but waht my service consultant told me is this "well the way we noticed is that one of your "boost" valve's is beign bypassed and thats caused from the procede"

still havnt picked up my car. will pick it up 2marrow and see whats going on...

just giving u guys an heads up for anyone going in for service!

ill keep you guys updated on this situation.

Any suggestions of what i should do!?

Which dealership did you go to?

M3KILL3R · 09-26-2007, 09:09 AM

I went to jumanji Bmw....

NPDAN · 09-26-2007, 09:10 AM

They cant just void your warranty like that. They need to be able to prove that a mod you had in place is what caused your issue. Without the PROcede in the car, they have no way of telling that you ever had it. Beside that, the warranty covers every little part that makes up the motor. So they cant go with. " Engine warranty void" Too broad. (at least this is what I was told)

S_M · 09-26-2007, 09:10 AM

Read the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

They absolutely cannot void your warranty.

Your warranty is only voided if that procede causes something to fail, and they need proof that it was the procede and nothing else that caused it.

M3KILL3R · 09-26-2007, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NPDAN

Beside that, the warranty covers every little part that makes up the motor. So they cant go with. " Engine warranty void" Too broad. (at least this is what I was told)

thats going to be usefull

thanks

herbz · 09-26-2007, 09:11 AM

that's unfortunate...... is this the first official report we've had of someone's warranty being voided?

M3KILL3R · 09-26-2007, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by reallyslow

Read the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

They absolutely cannot void your warranty.

Your warranty is only voided if that procede causes something to fail, and they need proof that it was the procede and nothing else that caused it.

well they said when they were testing my car they felt a rough idle, so they checked it out and found that the "boost" valve was beign bypassed.

now please. WTF IS A BOOST valve!?

Orient330iNYC · 09-26-2007, 09:13 AM

despite magnuson moss, its going to be an uphill battle if they flagged your car in the system.... it'll show up at any dealer when they call up your car's service records. basically, they have more lawyers and money to fight you. the regional reps do lurk and read the enthusiast boards so be careful what you say. they can easily figure out who you are by post info like dates, what dealer the car is in, etc.

Orient330iNYC · 09-26-2007, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by M3KILL3R

well they said when they were testing my car they felt a rough idle, so they checked it out and found that the "boost" valve was beign bypassed.

now please. WTF IS A BOOST valve!?

passenger side of the engine, back towards the firewall. part of the procede install is bypassing the boost solenoid by taking redoing the tee. if you forgot to redo the hoses, its a dead giveaway, as the solenoid is sitting there with nothing connected to it.

M3KILL3R · 09-26-2007, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by M3KILL3R

I went to jumanji Bmw....

betteR! much better ! lol

M3KILL3R · 09-26-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

passenger side of the engine, back towards the firewall. part of the procede install is bypassing the boost solenoid by taking redoing the tee. if you forgot to redo the hoses, its a dead giveaway, as the solenoid is sitting there with nothing connected to it.

ah so its the boost solenoid...ok well your talkin about the green, yellow, wires correct?

Orient330iNYC · 09-26-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by M3KILL3R

ah so its the boost solenoid...ok well your talkin about the green, yellow, wires correct?

no, the hoses.

HyperM3 · 09-26-2007, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

despite magnuson moss, its going to be an uphill battle if they flagged your car in the system.... it'll show up at any dealer when they call up your car's service records.

Actually, it doesnt. I thought it would happen when my one dealership wrote in the notes of my workorder "vehicle has many performance mods". However it didnt show up in the next dealership I went to when I asked.

Secondly, both my dealerships know I have a PROcede and still got my o2 sensor replaced under warranty(as discussed in one of my other threads).

The second dealership Ive been going to actually has a couple employees running the PROcede in their own cars. That is a dealership I like dealing with.

M3KILL3R · 09-26-2007, 09:20 AM

im pretty sure i took those out as well....
fuck. ima go pick up my car 2marrow. and see what i forgot. i bet its the SMALLEST thing watch.

HyperM3 · 09-26-2007, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

passenger side of the engine, back towards the firewall. part of the procede install is bypassing the boost solenoid by taking redoing the tee. if you forgot to redo the hoses, its a dead giveaway, as the solenoid is sitting there with nothing connected to it.

Apparently v2 of the PROcede will put this part back to stock configuration. That being said, v2 is still a rumor.

09-26-2007, 08:57 AM	#1
M3KILL3R Banned 44 Rep 454 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burbank iTrader: (2)	[Update]Warranty Voided!!!! Procede Users Beware!!![Update!!] ok so basically...i took my car in for break change and some type of emmisions recall they had...they called back the next day, and my service consultant said "well it looks like you had a procede software installed on your car" funny thing is i tried to deny it and basically they told me that they voided my Engine warranty. now i took off all the wiring and everything off my car. now i have absolulty no clue of how they found out, but waht my service consultant told me is this "well the way we noticed is that one of your "boost" valve's is beign bypassed and thats caused from the procede" still havnt picked up my car. will pick it up 2marrow and see whats going on... just giving u guys an heads up for anyone going in for service! ill keep you guys updated on this situation. Any suggestions of what i should do!? Last edited by M3KILL3R; 09-28-2007 at 02:07 PM..
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ArmyBimmerDude Major General 152 Rep 5,501 Posts Drives: Lola Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Georgia iTrader: (3) Garage List 02/2007 E92 335i [0.00]	Wow. They can't just up and say your warranty is voided. From other threads, I was led to believe the only way that can happen is if they prove that your modification caused the problem. I think the Vishnu Procede is kinda well known to dealerships now and they're attempting to get you to confess. Either that or you didnt hook everything up correctly when you deinstalled it. __________________ 2007 E92 Montego Blue 335i
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BoostedBMW Moderator 133 Rep 6,775 Posts Drives: TiAg E92 335 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (14) Garage List 2003 S2000 [0.00]	I'm sorry to hear that... dealing with SA's and warranty claims when your car is stock is never fun, and when its modified its just even more stress. Best of luck with dealing with those tards, but if the procede itself wasn't in the car then I would just deny it. If there only proof is that one of your solenoids was bypassed then tell them that the vac line must of fell off. Now, get ready for all of the saints to chime in and tell you about morals and ethics, and how you are going to put that dealership and/or BMW out of business if you retain your engine warranty. __________________ -Michael. Berlina Black S2000 CR is now in the garage l 19" Rial Daytona Race l KW V2 l Eisenhaus Race Exhaust l
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M3KILL3R Banned 44 Rep 454 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burbank iTrader: (2)	I went to jumanji Bmw....
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NPDAN Colonel 95 Rep 2,573 Posts Drives: AW DCT M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: So.Cal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2008 E92 M3 [8.00] 07' E92 335i [0.00]	They cant just void your warranty like that. They need to be able to prove that a mod you had in place is what caused your issue. Without the PROcede in the car, they have no way of telling that you ever had it. Beside that, the warranty covers every little part that makes up the motor. So they cant go with. " Engine warranty void" Too broad. (at least this is what I was told) __________________
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S_M Lieutenant 67 Rep 549 Posts Drives: Many Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: X5 iTrader: (0)	Read the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. They absolutely cannot void your warranty. Your warranty is only voided if that procede causes something to fail, and they need proof that it was the procede and nothing else that caused it.
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herbz hi 94 Rep 837 Posts Drives: '86 325e Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: outside boston MA iTrader: (0)	that's unfortunate...... is this the first official report we've had of someone's warranty being voided?
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Orient330iNYC Brigadier General 1469 Rep 3,553 Posts Drives: 2023 X7 40i Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wall St iTrader: (2)	despite magnuson moss, its going to be an uphill battle if they flagged your car in the system.... it'll show up at any dealer when they call up your car's service records. basically, they have more lawyers and money to fight you. the regional reps do lurk and read the enthusiast boards so be careful what you say. they can easily figure out who you are by post info like dates, what dealer the car is in, etc. __________________ Present: 2023 G07 40i ZDH/ZDU/ZMP/ZMQ/2NH/ZPK/ZPP/ZRC/300/3AC Past: 2013 335i 6MT ZMM/ZDH/ZTP/3AG/494/508 Past: 2016 F34 335i xDrive ZCW/ZDA/ZDH/ZTP/ZMP/2V5/5DL Past: 2019 G01 M40i ZDA/2VF/ZPP/ZPX/688/3AC
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M3KILL3R Banned 44 Rep 454 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burbank iTrader: (2)	im pretty sure i took those out as well.... fuck. ima go pick up my car 2marrow. and see what i forgot. i bet its the SMALLEST thing watch.
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