Warranty Voided!!!! Procede Users Beware!!!

stressdoc · 09-26-2007, 12:47 PM

One of the things that really worries me about, umm, how to put this diplomatically, less sophisticated piggybacks, is that some real problems are going to emerge, and BMW will take severe action against all such mods. The PROcede will get thrown out with the JB bathwater.

gbonc335i · 09-26-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stressdoc

The PROcede will get thrown out with the JB bathwater.

Uh-oh.

MBMWTECH · 09-26-2007, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperM3

First I was dealing with Flemington and they are good but a bit far. Princeton is 2 mins from me and thats where a couple guys are running PROcede on their own cars. Lew Shinkle is the SA I deal with there. Very cool guy.

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Originally Posted by hl0m4n

wow that is great news. gotta start going there now.

You guys need to find a mod friendly tech (cough) to overlook your mods

Sniz · 09-26-2007, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gbonc335i

Uh-oh.

*1000

HyperM3 · 09-26-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MBMWTECH

You guys need to find a mod friendly tech (cough) to overlook your mods

Feel free to PM me with where you work.

M3KILL3R · 09-26-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MBMWTECH

You guys need to find a mod friendly tech (cough) to overlook your mods

ye me to

turbojet3 · 09-26-2007, 01:11 PM

Use the BMW connectors for your wiring to prevent the electrical tape goo.

61-13-8-377-072 Universal socket housing uncoded
61-13-8-377-213 Universal Pin Terminal uncoded
order them from a on-line dealer

Hillstreet · 09-26-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by turbojet3

Use the BMW connectors for your wiring to prevent the electrical tape goo.

order them from a on-line dealer

Could you give us the partnumber or something?

sflgator · 09-26-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stressdoc

Couple of issues here.
First, you need to decide if you are willing to deliberately lie. If so, then you want to come up with a clear and solid lie explaining why your boost hose was not connected.
Second, in regard to dealers, what I have found to be important is a history of interaction, a long term relationship. A dealer may treat one customer well, but another not so well, based on the difference in the kind of relationship -- are you going to be a good customer for a long time for them? If so, then they are likely to take better care of you. "Dealer hopping" is not likely to be a good way to establish this kind of trust.

If I were you, I would do my best to communicate to my dealer (SA, CA) that you really like the dealership, and hope to be a lifelong customer that will moreover bring in lots of other customers because you say good things about them, but that this issue of an engine warranty is a deal-breaker. You do your best to take good care of your car, and expect them to honor their part of the bargain. If so, they can expect a valuable life-long loyal customer. If the issue is pushed, I would suggest asking their opinion of what the consequences of modding your car are, and that you had no idea that it would harm it, and void your warranty contra the Magnuson-Moss act.

+1. All excellent advice. As my grandmother used to say, "you get more with giving honey than salt." OR something like that anyway.

Carlito12 · 09-26-2007, 01:38 PM

to the OP...

man, sorry to hear. seems like u ran into a wrong SA...

hope it works out for u...

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Originally Posted by e.n335

Xede causes no limp mode

wow, eugene... u never cease to amaze me...

any chance u get, huh?

since u seem to have a lot of time on ur hand, can u please find some links to threads of Xede limp modes ??? i like to read about them...

OC Guy · 09-26-2007, 01:44 PM

Too much typing and not enough

IMO.

Boostin335 · 09-26-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by karliejai

which dealership did you go? JMK?

I am going to use JMK... any opinion on them? I brought my stock e46 M3 there and they were pretty good, fast with repairs, took care of the car, and seemed like a good place. I would be using them for repairs with my 335xi coupe on order... my question is.. how are they with mods?

Dascamel · 09-26-2007, 01:49 PM

I'm going to start sending my sales rep thank you cards and flowers....

Boostin335 · 09-26-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dascamel

I'm going to start sending my sales rep thank you cards and flowers....

LOL

F32Fleet · 09-26-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KL2DC

+1 I agree....

They can't just void the entire warranty like that.

Of course your 'Procede just kicked in yo' t-shirt didn't help matters much while you were at the dealership

The voided his engine warranty which is the right call IMO. Hard to hold the manufacturer liable for an engine problem when it can't be properly diagnosed because it has been running outside their specs. Makes perfect sense IMO, and to be honest, I'm enjoying it.

M3KILL3R · 09-26-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dascamel

I'm going to start sending my sales rep thank you cards and flowers....

i thought of that...and a bottle of Grey Goose

OC Guy · 09-26-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dascamel

I'm going to start sending my sales rep thank you cards and flowers....

Op should steal all of his SA's posted thank you card and replace them with random fake Your Service Sucks card. He'll never notice!

F32Fleet · 09-26-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by M3KILL3R

hmmm i have a friend in a different bmw dealership, ill go find out today or something see whats going on.

is O2 sensor considered under Engine warranty?

O2 sensor is different. It's a static part that just takes measurements.

F32Fleet · 09-26-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gbonc335i

That is the issue. Seems some dealerships may use mods as an excuse to void the warranty whether the problem is related to the mod or not.

Remember guys, the dealership doesn't do warranty work for free. They get paid by BMWNA.

Dealership won't void your warranty on paintwork or say your Xenons because u have a Procede. You must use some common sense and accept the potential for having some personal liability.

e.n335 · 09-26-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Socom

Remember guys, the dealership doesn't do warranty work for free. They get paid by BMWNA ...

That's why they normally don't reject warranty work ( orders ). They have to make a discount price for this kind of work but payment is 100% guaranteed. Somehow relevant in these times

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- Eugen

Orient330iNYC · 09-26-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by e.n335

That's why they normally don't reject warranty work ( orders ). They have a discount price for this kind of work but payment is 100% guaranteed.

- Eugen

they have been know to push back if BMWNA notices a large number of questionable warranty claims from said dealer

Beer Goggles · 09-26-2007, 02:16 PM

You have to talk to your SA, but that might not be that easy because of volume at some places. When my car was in for service, I saw a modded M5 pull in which was in for the 3rd time. THey never once mentioned anything about it being modded.

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