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E91 6 speed manual rare?
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05-07-2018, 02:28 AM | #3 |
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Pretty f**king rare. More likely to find a Minotaur unicorn hybrid than a 6 speed E91 for sale. Good luck.
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05-07-2018, 09:10 AM | #6 |
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A couple have sold recently for good money. They usually command a 25% premium over an automatic transmission.
There is an Uber rare E91 LCI LBM/Saddle Brown 6-speed RWD in the classifieds. He's asking $24k I believe. |
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05-07-2018, 10:45 AM | #8 |
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Europeans aren't petrified by that third pedal.
I've always thought it was strange - Americans, who have long straight highways, hate manual, yet Europeans, who generally live in closer quarters, all drive it.
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05-07-2018, 11:10 AM | #9 |
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you need to pass driving exam on manual car over there so no matter what you have to learn manual if you want to drive in Europe and they don't do trucks but very into wagons and diesel engines
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05-07-2018, 11:40 AM | #11 |
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I was at mid ohio this last weekend.
I wandered up to the BMW trailer and asked someone that looked important when we'd see fun wagons again in the US. He laughed at me. |
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05-07-2018, 11:41 AM | #12 |
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I picked up a Tasman Green/Saddle Brown 6sp E91 xDrive in January. Found it at a used car dealer in Denver who didn't know it was anything special!
I tried reaching out to the original selling dealer (Sewickley in PA) last week to get a NA production number breakdown, but no response as of yet. |
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05-07-2018, 12:26 PM | #14 |
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I believe the number of RWD 6-speed E91s imported to the US was 429.
Source: http://www.bmwblog.com/2016/11/01/dr...i-sport-wagon/ |
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05-07-2018, 12:34 PM | #15 |
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Just estimates, but BMW sold only around 3,000 s-series wagons per year. Last numbers I saw said that less than 20% were manuals; more like 10%-15%. so There are fewer than 15%*3000*7 = 3150 total in the USA/CA. Most manuals were special ordered and aren't for sale by the original owners.
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05-07-2018, 12:43 PM | #16 |
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back in a day people used to buy used and/or salvaged cars form US ship it to europe, replace headlights (because of european regulations) and make some nice profit selling it. Those days are over because europeans switched to diesel cars and gasoline cars became much cheaper over there. Now it seems it could be worth shipping used gasoline cars from europe back to us
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05-07-2018, 05:37 PM | #17 | |
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I've never seen or been able to get official BMW numbers. OP, why are you asking? |
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05-07-2018, 09:26 PM | #18 |
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In years of periodically watching classifieds in my area, I've seen precisely zero RWD e91 6MT's, though plenty of RWD sedans and coupes with a stick. Even the 6MT e91 xdrive is rare... The year I bought mine, only 4 sold over the whole year via Boston/Maine/Vermont/NH/CT/RI craigslist.
So, I'd believe that 400-something number... I haven't seen them demand a premium though. If anything they're worth even less (unless you ask at a used car dealership, then they're definitely a unicorn and worth thousands over book, but if you buy today...). |
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05-13-2018, 12:10 AM | #19 |
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I'm one of those original owners who ordered one new, and I am sooo not selling it. European Delivery in July of 2011. Drove all over Germany and Scandinavia.
I had been looking for YEARS for an e39 or e91 stick wagon worth buying, with no luck. Then BMW was hinting that '11 would be it for wagons in the US, period. So of course we got a 1/2 year of '12 e91s. But anyway, I sucked it up and ordered one just the way I wanted it. RWD, 6spd, and since I live in Maine, that makes it not just a unicorn, but a platinum-plated unicorn that poops diamonds. It's the only one the local dealer ever sold. The number I have always heard for the RWD stick e91 is about 50 per year, and as someone said, virtually all of them special order. So I really can't blame BMW for not offering that combo anymore in the F31, even though I still hate them for it. On the bright side, it means I have an extra $55K that I don't have any reason to give them for a new one. I'm up to 43K now, only putting about 3K a year on it since I now live in FL 9mo/yr. The wagon stays at my summer place in Maine. I have a GTI down south.
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