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      03-11-2015, 03:58 PM   #1
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5 Pin Power Folding Mirrors

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Does anyone know if you have 5 pin wing mirrors & install power folding wing mirrors with 5 pins..... will it be plug n play (with coding)?

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They should do. It's only when trying to fit 3 pin to 5 pin or vice versa they aren't compatible.

If you have 5 pin to 5 pin and fitting power fold then yes just code them.
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They should do. It's only when trying to fit 3 pin to 5 pin or vice versa they aren't compatible.

If you have 5 pin to 5 pin and fitting power fold then yes just code them.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking..... but can't find any info for sure! 5 pin power fold is rare!
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5 pin power fold is rare!
True, but it's the same principle as 3 pin non folding to 3 pin folding, it's just plug and play with the activation of the option through coding.
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True, but it's the same principle as 3 pin non folding to 3 pin folding, it's just plug and play with the activation of the option through coding.
Nice one.... I'll get them then! It's for the E87..... so far the retrofit parts have been more expensive than the E9x!!
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5 pin power fold is rare!
True, but it's the same principle as 3 pin non folding to 3 pin folding, it's just plug and play with the activation of the option through coding.
Is this true??

I thought it depends on if your current mirror runs of LINBus. If not you have to wire the LINBus to the FRM/Fuse box?? I'm looking into this at the moment, so if you have extra info that would be a great help
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Is this true??

I thought it depends on if your current mirror runs of LINBus. If not you have to wire the LINBus to the FRM/Fuse box?? I'm looking into this at the moment, so if you have extra info that would be a great help
Have you got 3 pins & memory seats? If so, then it's def a plug n play (with coding).
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Jammy, if going from 3 to 3 and 5 to 5, it's all plug n play.

But if going from 3 to 5 and vice versa, then clearly not.

I retrofitted M3 mirrors back in the day and it was plug n play as I had 3 pin connection
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Jammy, if going from 3 to 3 and 5 to 5, it's all plug n play.

But if going from 3 to 5 and vice versa, then clearly not.

I retrofitted M3 mirrors back in the day and it was plug n play as I had 3 pin connection
I've got no memory seats, just autodimming.

Pretty sure it'll be 3 pin on mine, and mirrows I'm looking at are 3 pin already.

If it's plug and play that would be great. But from what I've looked up so far the LINBus system is the key. If your old mirrows is powered through LINBus your fine, but if not, than you have to do addtional wiring ...
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I've got no memory seats, just autodimming.

Pretty sure it'll be 3 pin on mine, and mirrows I'm looking at are 3 pin already.

If it's plug and play that would be great. But from what I've looked up so far the LINBus system is the key. If your old mirrows is powered through LINBus your fine, but if not, than you have to do addtional wiring ...
If you have 3 pins mirrors and then its PNP and you need to code the car.
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As above really, from what I've read if going 3 to 3 or 5 to 5 then should be plug and play with the coding activation bit. Mines an 06 car with 3 pin (but I do have memory seats) and fitted the M3 mirrors with 3 pin too and coded it for the dimming as mine was folding equipped already.

Even did this on my old E60 530d when fitted genuine M5 mirrors and again was just plug and play.

Maybe it depends slightly on what options are already equipped on the car but in theory apart from the coding side should be plug and play. The folding part simply works off the switch being able to send the signal to the motor which on folding mirrors still has the same number of pin connections.
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Just to add.... not all E9x with memory seats have 3 pins! Sold mirrors to a M3 E93 owner & when I went to install - the car had 5 pins!!!! Very strange!!!!
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Ok, thanks for the advice.

Have bought the mirrors, will see if it work with just plug and play
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Ok, thanks for the advice.

Have bought the mirrors, will see if it work with just plug and play
Plus coding
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Plus coding
Coding I can sort my self, but E92 335i all come with memory seats, where as on the E90 it wasn't the case, so I'll wait and see...

In anycase, I'm sure there's plenty of help on this forum for me to get it working
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Plus coding
Coding I can sort my self, but E92 335i all come with memory seats, where as on the E90 it wasn't the case, so I'll wait and see...

In anycase, I'm sure there's plenty of help on this forum for me to get it working
I've just ordered pair of mirrors off a forum member and I to don't have heated mirrors, I may need advice about wiring. Or if anybody wants few beers
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Hi,

Does anyone know if you have 5 pin wing mirrors & install power folding wing mirrors with 5 pins..... will it be plug n play (with coding)?

Cheers
Jammy
Are you sure that there is 5 pins folding mirrors?
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Are you sure that there is 5 pins folding mirrors?
The seller said they are & comes with the power fold window switch.

This is for the E87 & memory seats are rare..... so maybe that's why? Do you think they won't be?
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The seller said they are & comes with the power fold window switch.

This is for the E87 & memory seats are rare..... so maybe that's why? Do you think they won't be?
I doubt it Jamel. Seller is not sure about his product and hence giving you BS.
You are more than welcome to try it and when you code it to folding mirrors, those mirrors will not even move.
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I doubt it Jamel. Seller is not sure about his product and hence giving you BS.
You are more than welcome to try it and when you code it to folding mirrors, those mirrors will not even move.
That's what I thought at 1st........ But he's just assured me they are & he saw them work!? Could be BS..... When they arrive a quick removal of the cap will answer
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3 pin is auto fold
5 pin is manual
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3 pin is auto fold
5 pin is manual
Isn't only 3 pin electric memory as well?

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