[sloweste9x]

Sup guys getting the first symptoms of turbo failure from sirening to underboost codes.


I'm looking to replace the OEM's with something that will provide me with more horsepower, but on somewhat of a budget.

Am I better off getting a kit like the Hexon RR600s, or a JPWorkz/ON3 Performance ST type kit? Is there a lot of fabrication that comes with the ST kits? I've spoken with both manufacturers and installers and I keep getting different answers.

Car already has upgraded clutch and lighter flywheel

[Chris@BoostConcepts]

what are your goals with the car? there is a big difference between upgraded twins and a single turbo conversion. both have their merits, it ultimately boils down to what you want out of the car and how you prefer the power delivery and what your power goals are.

single turbo kits tend to cost more because you are replacing quite a bit more rather then trading stock frames for upgraded stock frames. with the RR600's there is zero difference to installation of stock turbos. you can pretty much bank on book time for the actual turbo swap portion. adding inlets is a good idea if this is the route you decide to take.

Single turbo installation from good kit manufacturers is usually straight forward. I know that Motiv's kit is a simple installation and very neat and clean with minimal heat issues. the top mounts are a good idea to use some heat protection to maintain the longevity of parts in close quarters with the turbine housing and piping. budget also plays a significant role as most single kits will run at least $2k more by the time installation is done then the RR600's.

We sell the Hexon brand but I am not at all opposed to single kits and will likely have one when the twins are completely finished being tested on our manual shop car. one benefit I think single turbo kits really have is the ability to swap turbos in less then an hour or two with minimal cost involved on the installation side of things, as well as play with various turbine Housing AR sizes. however be prepared for additional lag but a stronger top end pull and flatter torque curve with higher boost pressure (once it comes online).

really it all boils down to you preferences. i would suggest trying to catch a ride in one of each if possible to determine which you prefer and then factor in the other pros and cons to base your decision off of.

Hope that helps!

Chris

[MM Performance]

Look at MMP turbos for high hp stage 3 twins on a budget

[csu87]

Doc race now has a top mount for $5k with 6266 turbo after a $1k off discount.

[ferocity02]

Budget means no single turbo. Even the high-end twins are cheaper than the low-end single.

RR600 is probably a good choice

[Velocity26]

Are the O2 sensor issues resolved with the single turbo set-ups?

[sloweste9x]

Originally Posted by Velocity26

Are the O2 sensor issues resolved with the single turbo set-ups?

Looks like it with the jp workz kit but I'm not sure

[csu87]

Originally Posted by Velocity26

Are the O2 sensor issues resolved with the single turbo set-ups?

havent seen any recently so i am going to go with yes.

There is a lot more info on some of the latest setups over on the other forum that may be worth a look.

[sloweste9x]

Originally Posted by ferocity02

Budget means no single turbo. Even the high-end twins are cheaper than the low-end single.

RR600 is probably a good choice

True, but think about it this way. If I buy twins, I still need to buy downpipes, inlets, and outlets which bring it up to the cost of the single kit

[Chris@BoostConcepts]

Originally Posted by mb21111

True, but think about it this way. If I buy twins, I still need to buy downpipes, inlets, and outlets which bring it up to the cost of the single kit

Downpipes and inlets and outlets do add about $900-1000, good point! but I don't think they quite get it up to a single kit. Not dissuading a single kit as they make some serious power, but be sure you delve in all the way when costing out your build path. It can often times end up a good bit more then most people throw together off the cuff. its all the little odds and ends with either setup that add the cost you forgot about... coolant, oil, filter, installation kit, relocation components, etc... I get many customers who call or email and I always make sure to review their expectation before letting them blindly buy turbos and get in over their head. Installation is a big factor as most shops see a single kit and without alldata support to get them through quoting it will throw a big number out there. not as bad of course if you are self install, but a consideration none the less.

Chris

[1BADM3]

I would go JP (as i already did) They just dropped there prices to $3500 shipped for 6266 full kit

http://www.jpworkz.com/product-p/a005.htm

[sloweste9x]

Originally Posted by CoreI5

I would go JP (as i already did) They just dropped there prices to $3500 shipped for 6266 full kit

http://www.jpworkz.com/product-p/a005.htm

Yeah I like that but am in love with the hexons. How long did the install take?

[BRD1234]

Originally Posted by Chris@BoostConcepts

Downpipes and inlets and outlets do add about $900-1000, good point! but I don't think they quite get it up to a single kit. Not dissuading a single kit as they make some serious power, but be sure you delve in all the way when costing out your build path. It can often times end up a good bit more then most people throw together off the cuff. its all the little odds and ends with either setup that add the cost you forgot about... coolant, oil, filter, installation kit, relocation components, etc... I get many customers who call or email and I always make sure to review their expectation before letting them blindly buy turbos and get in over their head. Installation is a big factor as most shops see a single kit and without alldata support to get them through quoting it will throw a big number out there. not as bad of course if you are self install, but a consideration none the less.

Chris

Can't forget about an upgraded clutch/flywheel to handle that single power.
I guess you can say that you'll have to do that for both upgraded twins or single but more so on the single.

[1BADM3]

Originally Posted by mb21111

Yeah I like that but am in love with the hexons. How long did the install take?

Removing the stock twins is what kicked my butt. The single only took a few hours to install.

[chris98m3]

How's the hexon hybrid 1 turbos?

[sloweste9x]

Originally Posted by chris98m3

How's the hexon hybrid 1 turbos?

I'm also wondering this. Are they actually bigger compressors than the stockies or are they identical?

[bradsm87]

Originally Posted by mb21111

I'm also wondering this. Are they actually bigger compressors than the stockies or are they identical?

They're bigger 14T compressors.

[mweisdorfer]

Originally Posted by mb21111

Sup guys getting the first symptoms of turbo failure from sirening to underboost codes.


I'm looking to replace the OEM's with something that will provide me with more horsepower, but on somewhat of a budget.

Am I better off getting a kit like the Hexon RR600s, or a JPWorkz/ON3 Performance ST type kit? Is there a lot of fabrication that comes with the ST kits? I've spoken with both manufacturers and installers and I keep getting different answers.

Car already has upgraded clutch and lighter flywheel

You should look at the Dinan rebuild program they have.

The Mitsubishi turbos that you can buy at ECS tuning for example are just replacements for the stock turbo, but reportedly fix the all known issues with the e90 turbo chargers.

The Dinan turbo takes the stock turbo and puts a larger compressor on it.

Something to think about.

http://www.dinancars.com/product/r31...-e93-335i-n54/

[Grand_hustle17]

Pure Stage 2