[TheMidnightNarwhal]

So I'm a bit of noob to manual transmission, my 2nd manual car but my 1st one did have a long time and was wondering why it's doing this.

Basically something if I start in 1st gear and then depress the clutch, I will hear clunk and car shudders a bit. I do this because there is a stop sign right after pulling out of my driveway for example.

Am I depressing clutch to quickly and stop putting gas to quickly to or?

[Indyeah]

Does it happen every time or just when cold?
Have you verified you have proper fluid/oil levels in tranny and diff?

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by Indyeah

Does it happen every time or just when cold?
Have you verified you have proper fluid/oil levels in tranny and diff?

Not nessecarly, but now that you mention it I think it happen more when car just start up.

Don't know for the fluid got the car at 56k miles 2-3 weeks ago.

Will be doing a transmission fluid change tho pretty soon before winter.

[tlow98]

Are here doing the gas while you do this?

Ideally, as you’re coming off the gas you should be going in on the clutch such that there is a smith transition.

The clink and shutter is typically from the dual mass flywheel doing its thing and shouldn’t be a worry. There is the off chance one of your motor mounts could be on its way out.

[Camery]

I am having the same 'problem'. Not sure what it is but I would like to find out.

I noticed it happens when I let my foot of the gas, so the engine doesn't rev up, but rather starts to drop in rpm, then immediately depressing the clutch.

To prevent this I depress the clutch first, and then directly after that I let go of the gas.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by Camery

I am having the same 'problem'. Not sure what it is but I would like to find out.

I noticed it happens when I let my foot of the gas, so the engine doesn't rev up, but rather starts to drop in rpm, then immediately depressing the clutch.

To prevent this I depress the clutch first, and then directly after that I let go of the gas.

Yes I've been doing this to, keep the gas at least the same while pushing in clutch and it stops doing it.

[Pladi]

oh man basics of driving standard.. this happens to every manual car not just BMW..

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by Pladi

oh man basics of driving standard.. this happens to every manual car not just BMW..

Ok but why, so is it because I'm depressing clutch to quickly?

[tadaska]

Originally Posted by Pladi

oh man basics of driving standard.. this happens to every manual car not just BMW..

Not really. I always take my foot off accelerator first and depress the clutch later as I'm closer to stopping. No clucking in my car. If the windows are open and it's quiet around me I sometime gear a gentle "thud" or "clunk" as the clutch disengages. But nothing that raises concern.

[Pladi]

its a combination usually of depressing to quick and not enough gas. It comes with time. Its a fine balance. As soon as you feel some vibration press the clutch a few inches in and add more gas and then release clutch it all happens usually within a few milliseconds and its second nature by now for me. My bmw is my first automatic car ever owned..

Whatever you do dont ride the clutch.. vibration is better than riding the clutch.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by Pladi

its a combination usually of depressing to quick and not enough gas. It comes with time. Its a fine balance. As soon as you feel some vibration press the clutch a few inches in and add more gas and then release clutch it all happens usually within a few milliseconds and its second nature by now for me. My bmw is my first automatic car ever owned..

Whatever you do dont ride the clutch.. vibration is better than riding the clutch.

The more I rid the clutch the more faster wear I put?

Also I noticed my starts are not super super great.

How high of an RPM should I get the car to when rolling off just to give me an idea? Like I'm surprised that I have to put more RPM to get off smoothly.

[tlow98]

You can leave the line with no gas at all. It takes time. You’ll get a feel for it

[tadaska]

Originally Posted by Pladi

its a combination usually of depressing to quick and not enough gas. It comes with time. Its a fine balance. As soon as you feel some vibration press the clutch a few inches in and add more gas and then release clutch it all happens usually within a few milliseconds and its second nature by now for me. My bmw is my first automatic car ever owned..

Whatever you do dont ride the clutch.. vibration is better than riding the clutch.

I'm confused. Are we talking about pushing the clutch pedal down or releasing it? I'm pretty sure "depress the clutch" means to push the pedal down and disengage the clutch. But why worry about giving enough gas when disengaging it?

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by tadaska

I'm confused. Are we talking about pushing the clutch pedal down or releasing it? I'm pretty sure "depress the clutch" means to push the pedal down and disengage the clutch. But why worry about giving enough gas when disengaging it?

Yeah original thread was depress (pushing pedal down) but my last reply was just for that specefic situation.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by tlow98

You can leave the line with no gas at all. It takes time. You’ll get a feel for it

But doesn't that grind or use the clutch more?

[Pladi]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

But doesn't that grind or use the clutch more?

no.. the clutch is used when there is load.. when u just release the clutch or depress slowly with no gas that is a no load scenario.

[Pladi]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

The more I rid the clutch the more faster wear I put?

Also I noticed my starts are not super super great.

How high of an RPM should I get the car to when rolling off just to give me an idea? Like I'm surprised that I have to put more RPM to get off smoothly.

I cant give u a specific RPM that depends on the load on the engine.. up hill straight downhill.. how fast you want to go and more..

The idea is to get out of the clutch riding zone as fast as possible with as much smoothness as possible..

Typically 1200 RPM for a normal acceleration.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by Pladi

I cant give u a specific RPM that depends on the load on the engine.. up hill straight downhill.. how fast you want to go and more..

The idea is to get out of the clutch riding zone as fast as possible with as much smoothness as possible..

Typically 1200 RPM for a normal acceleration.

Ok I'll practise some more.

And for the shake and clunk notice more and more if I keep my throttle steady while pushing in clutch it stops doing it.

[axe127]

Originally Posted by Camery

I am having the same 'problem'. Not sure what it is but I would like to find out.

I noticed it happens when I let my foot of the gas, so the engine doesn't rev up, but rather starts to drop in rpm, then immediately depressing the clutch.

To prevent this I depress the clutch first, and then directly after that I let go of the gas.

I have this exactly. It didn't happen (at least as loudly) in the 7 years I drove my manual B5 A4, so it does seem to be somewhat unique to our cars.