European air intake mod.

MediaHI · 02-02-2011, 05:02 AM

so the lid and box is 370, and assuming the lid box and filter for 420?

1QuikWS6 · 02-02-2011, 05:15 AM

Just box/lid = $370 + shipping

box/lid/filter = $400 + shipping

But the filter they offer is not hi-flow, it is the factory BMW Euro paper filter, and according to the site not in stock with ETA of April 6

So you're better off just buying the K&N & spending the xtra $20. So total for all would be $420 as you stated. You would need to order the K&N from someone else though.

rothwem · 02-02-2011, 09:10 AM

Dyno?

StealYourFace · 02-02-2011, 11:42 AM

Any change in sound?

psre08 · 02-02-2011, 12:24 PM

Very interesting.. I hate the standard air box. And yeah, what about the sound?

MediaHI · 02-02-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 1QuikWS6

Just box/lid = $370 + shipping

box/lid/filter = $400 + shipping

But the filter they offer is not hi-flow, it is the factory BMW Euro paper filter, and according to the site not in stock with ETA of April 6

So you're better off just buying the K&N & spending the xtra $20. So total for all would be $420 as you stated. You would need to order the K&N from someone else though.

Thanks!

Wlew · 02-02-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by StealYourFace

Any change in sound?

+1

twistedm3 · 02-02-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by StealYourFace

Any change in sound?

Under normal driving and cruising conditions the intake sounds stock, but put your foot into it and you know there is business going on under the hood, no sucking sounds, just the sound of a good solid and strong performance engine. Is it louder than without .. a little, but then again now that I think about it .. after adding scoops it seems to make less noise.

I'm still amazed at the improvement, you have to watch yourself when merging into traffic using an on ramp .. if you put your foot into .. man they come up quick ..

StealYourFace · 02-03-2011, 05:50 AM

Testimonials are the best sales pitch.

I think I will pick it up and install the day it gets nice enough outside to put my summer wheels back on.

benzo23 · 02-03-2011, 12:00 PM

Do any of you have the OEM part # for the euro box?

psre08 · 02-03-2011, 12:06 PM

Agreed, I'm going with that and adding to my to-do list... great value mod.

benzo23 · 02-03-2011, 12:07 PM

Oh and what did you guys do about your MAF in the pics it looks like it comes with one? or did you guys swap yours into it?

twistedm3 · 02-03-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by benzo23

Do any of you have the OEM part # for the euro box?

I got mine at http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E90-330...ake/ES2072577/ they list the BMW PN# in the listing.

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Originally Posted by benzo23

Oh and what did you guys do about your MAF in the pics it looks like it comes with one? or did you guys swap yours into it?

The MAF sensor that it came with, is a two wire connector version vis our 4 wire, yep just swap in the MAF off the US intake.

It's interesting that BMW does not sell the box alone, so you get the air box, seven screws, MAF sensor and round paper filter.

bpas328xi · 02-03-2011, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ModProjeKt.com

nice strut bar

Genuine!!

bpas328xi · 02-03-2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by msrothwell

Dyno?

Sorry, I don't live near one. I'm probably pushing 240hp easy though.

bpas328xi · 02-03-2011, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by psre08

Very interesting.. I hate the standard air box. And yeah, what about the sound?

Yeah, the standard air box is kinda ugly and a PITA to replace the filter on (you have to remove the WHOLE damn thing).

On the topic of sound. It is very sedate at 2k and below. If and when you put your foot down, the car really comes alive. It definitely tells people that you have something NaStY under the hood. I'll try to take a video of hard acceleration and normal driving asap.

Killer · 02-05-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by twistedm3

I got mine at http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E90-330...ake/ES2072577/ they list the BMW PN# in the listing.

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It's interesting that BMW does not sell the box alone, so you get the air box, seven screws, MAF sensor and round paper filter.

Just got mine from ECSTuning as well. I ordered just the box, but like yours, mine came with the Euro MAF and paper filter as well.

Sidnito · 02-07-2011, 03:24 PM

i want this now haha

bpas328xi · 02-08-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sidnito

i want this now haha

Yes, yes you do. It is a worthwhile mod that takes very little time to do and makes a very noticeable improvement in the car's performance.

CobraMarty · 02-18-2011, 01:03 PM

When we did the install and all the pieces were off, I used a digital air flow meter to test the stock and EURO box. I connected it to a shopvac and then the flow meter and then the boxes. Here are the results:

1239 CFM - Stock box with paper filter and carbon filter
1257 CFM - EURO box with paper filter
1265 CFM - Euro box with K+N filter
1300 CFM - OPEN no box, max flow on my DIY flow system

What does all this mean? EURO box with K+N filter flows 2.1% more air than stock box. 230HP = 2.1% more air flow + 4.8 HP, So I estimate a 5 HP increase. Sounds about right and the math backs it up.

OlivaresAnthony · 02-18-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CobraMarty

When we did the install and all the pieces were off, I used a digital air flow meter to test the stock and EURO box. I connected it to a shopvac and then the flow meter and then the boxes. Here are the results:

1239 CFM - Stock box with paper filter and carbon filter
1257 CFM - EURO box with paper filter
1265 CFM - Euro box with K+N filter
1300 CFM - OPEN no box, max flow on my DIY flow system

What does all this mean? EURO box with K+N filter flows 2.1% more air than stock box. 230HP = 2.1% more air flow + 4.8 HP, So I estimate a 5 HP increase. Sounds about right and the math backs it up.

Any idea what the flow is with stock box, charcoal delete and K&N?

CobraMarty · 02-18-2011, 01:21 PM

Sorry no. I didn't have that setup to test.

Interesting that the air intake upper elbow made no difference in the flow. I also blew air into the intake opening, like to stimulate an air scoops and the airflow definitely went up but was unstable and hard to get an exact steady reading. I was just trying to blow air in with a hair blow drier.

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CobraMarty Major 619 Rep 1,402 Posts Drives: 2007 328xi e90 + e92 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: BimmerMILVs.com iTrader: (7)	When we did the install and all the pieces were off, I used a digital air flow meter to test the stock and EURO box. I connected it to a shopvac and then the flow meter and then the boxes. Here are the results: 1239 CFM - Stock box with paper filter and carbon filter 1257 CFM - EURO box with paper filter 1265 CFM - Euro box with K+N filter 1300 CFM - OPEN no box, max flow on my DIY flow system What does all this mean? EURO box with K+N filter flows 2.1% more air than stock box. 230HP = 2.1% more air flow + 4.8 HP, So I estimate a 5 HP increase. Sounds about right and the math backs it up.
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CobraMarty Major 619 Rep 1,402 Posts Drives: 2007 328xi e90 + e92 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: BimmerMILVs.com iTrader: (7)	Sorry no. I didn't have that setup to test. Interesting that the air intake upper elbow made no difference in the flow. I also blew air into the intake opening, like to stimulate an air scoops and the airflow definitely went up but was unstable and hard to get an exact steady reading. I was just trying to blow air in with a hair blow drier.
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