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      07-28-2020, 10:42 PM   #89
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Keep in mind driver has something to do with it. I know drew, and I have way more mods then him and he is just as fast as me if not faster.
Drew is the man when it comes to racing.
Awww shucks. Thanks brother.

Imagine if I lost that whole other person sitting the driver seat with me. lmao
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stock inlets for me, stock air box and downpipes as well. only stuff it had was psp 750 intercooler and stage 1 fuel it pump. custom e50 rfp tune.

best dragy 0-60 was 3.4 and 3.2 with 1 foot rollout
Yeah and keep drooling kid, Drew runs a best time of 11.66 in perfect weather with a >>AWD car and a E50 CUSTOM TUNE<< but yet a perfectly launched M340i from a dig is doing 12. Go figure that out, "but but but, 400hp beats 382hp". So if we based Drew's race on your theory, the Challenger running 500hp should have beat Drew's BMW which I'm guessing with a custom e50 custom tune without inlets is running anywhere from 475-490hp to the wheels.
I'd like to argue and almost unnecessary point but I don't believe I had anywhere near that power. My turbos were very tired and did not hold boost well to the shift.

I did a log dyno graph with one of my datalogs before and it was high 300s. Which seems reasonable for an almost no bolt ons tune only car with 170k miles.

I do believe that was in worse da that log, but it could not have been much over 400 at best imo.

I of course cannot back yours or my statements with a dyno. So take it with a grain of salt.
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i dont think N54 can run 12.2 on any pump gas tune with stock turbos. That m340 is quick
This is my best run on my custom 93 tune. Although not the greatest DA. I'd imagine a rwd with a tire could do similar on pump. Especially being lighter. Unsure.
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      07-28-2020, 11:32 PM   #93
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i dont think N54 can run 12.2 on any pump gas tune with stock turbos. That m340 is quick
It's insanely quick for a stock car. And you feel it too driving it.

I've driven a Stage 2+ Cobb 100 octane map and the MHD Stage 2+ for about 5 years or more, neither feels like the force of driving the M340i except the MHD e30 and e40 maps or more.

If you watch the first video around the 4:30 mark, you get a cockpit view/feel of how quick it is. Just doesn't let up for a under -400hp car.
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i dont think N54 can run 12.2 on any pump gas tune with stock turbos. That m340 is quick
This is my best run on my custom 93 tune. Although not the greatest DA. I'd imagine a rwd with a tire could do similar on pump. Especially being lighter. Unsure.
Maybe with drag radials. The RWD just can't put the power down in 1st and 2nd. SilentN54 I think doesn't even put his car in 1st when doing his 1/4 miles. The ability of the AWD to hook from a dig and launch control is such an advantage. I wish I got an XDrive when shopping for an N54 I'd I know beforehand how sloppy the rear end is and lack of an LSD.
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stock inlets for me, stock air box and downpipes as well. only stuff it had was psp 750 intercooler and stage 1 fuel it pump. custom e50 rfp tune.

best dragy 0-60 was 3.4 and 3.2 with 1 foot rollout
Yeah and keep drooling kid, Drew runs a best time of 11.66 in perfect weather with a >>AWD car and a E50 CUSTOM TUNE<< but yet a perfectly launched M340i from a dig is doing 12. Go figure that out, "but but but, 400hp beats 382hp". So if we based Drew's race on your theory, the Challenger running 500hp should have beat Drew's BMW which I'm guessing with a custom e50 custom tune without inlets is running anywhere from 475-490hp to the wheels.
I'd like to argue and almost unnecessary point but I don't believe I had anywhere near that power. My turbos were very tired and did not hold boost well to the shift.

I did a log dyno graph with one of my datalogs before and it was high 300s. Which seems reasonable for an almost no bolt ons tune only car with 170k miles.

I do believe that was in worse da that log, but it could not have been much over 400 at best imo.

I of course cannot back yours or my statements with a dyno. So take it with a grain of salt.
Over 400 on a E50 custom tune...? At the crank or at the wheels? What's your PSI output and boost target at WOT?
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That's a 60-130 race, generally speaking the higher torqued car is always going to win, already moving that fast and momentum established. Gearbox, LSD and hooking doesn't really come in to play at that point.

From a good old fashioned 1/4 mile drag race from a dig that 135i would lose every time.
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