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      06-19-2021, 01:53 PM   #1
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Cic Retrofit VIN change issue

Hi all, i know there are loads of posts regarding the VIN change on a cic but i can't find anything specific to my problem.

I have fitted the cic and everything works apart from the navigation (Greyed out). i have a working set of bmw tools (ediabas, inpa, etc) on my laptop and a few different k+dcan cables that work for everything apart from my problem.

following this guide here.. https://www.car-auto-repair.com/how-...dia-by-tool32/

i can load the job, CMEDIAR but get a " no response from controller" error everytime. I have since found out this is for the combox and as i don't have this yet then that would explain the error. Is this correct?

When i run the job, CICR i get an "OKAY" status but the nav still is greyed and checking in cicmafia show the original cic vin (not mine)

I then found the info here..http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forum...sc-code.39240/
This suggest different jobs, etc but on each time i run a job i get the error "JOB STATUS : ERROR_VEHICLE_IDENTIFICATION_NR"

looking around, this should be pretty straight forward but whatever i do doesn't work. Does anyone have a definitive guide or any tips to help me.

The unit is a cic business (Code 606A)
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Hi all, i know there are loads of posts regarding the VIN change on a cic but i can't find anything specific to my problem.

I have fitted the cic and everything works apart from the navigation (Greyed out). i have a working set of bmw tools (ediabas, inpa, etc) on my laptop and a few different k+dcan cables that work for everything apart from my problem.

following this guide here.. https://www.car-auto-repair.com/how-...dia-by-tool32/

i can load the job, CMEDIAR but get a " no response from controller" error everytime. I have since found out this is for the combox and as i don't have this yet then that would explain the error. Is this correct?
Correct, thats the combox

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When i run the job, CICR i get an "OKAY" status but the nav still is greyed and checking in cicmafia show the original cic vin (not mine)
?? its not just a case of changing the vin in the cic.

You need to load the FSC vin set for your car from the repair pack (or write your own).


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I then found the info here..http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forum...sc-code.39240/
This suggest different jobs, etc but on each time i run a job i get the error "JOB STATUS : ERROR_VEHICLE_IDENTIFICATION_NR"

looking around, this should be pretty straight forward but whatever i do doesn't work. Does anyone have a definitive guide or any tips to help me.

The unit is a cic business (Code 606A)
OK, you will need to virgin the cic, then get the repair pack, then upload the FSC's to the cic (using fstools or Dr gini).

Then it will work.

Changing the vin will do nothing, except change the vin. The nav will still be grayed out, its not just the vin that controls whether the nav woks, its the FSC certificates stored on the cic, they have to match with the vin (and the cars vin in the CAS) and currently they don't (the cas and the cic do, but not the FSC and the vin).

TBH, its not worth doing for the business cic, might be an idea to upgrade to the PRO nav (609).
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Might be an idea to look for a nav emulator, they are about £50 from ebay mate.
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Cheers for the reply, I'll look into the signing of the certs. What I don't understand though is that if I've changed the vin on CICR then why would cic mafia still report the old vin back.

If i had the cash to go for the pro nav then I would but the business nav, screen and dashboard were virtually free, hence why I fitted it
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Also. How do you virginize the cic. I've read the posts about the script but mine isn't the latest C1A firmware so it doesn't work. Is there another way
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Cheers for the reply, I'll look into the signing of the certs. What I don't understand though is that if I've changed the vin on CICR then why would cic mafia still report the old vin back.
In the Pro cic, the unit has 3 places where the vin code is stored, cic-r, cic-hd and cci-gw, so i would assume that the small cic has r and gw, you need to change the vin in the gateway.

It still wont make the nav work though.

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If i had the cash to go for the pro nav then I would but the business nav, screen and dashboard were virtually free, hence why I fitted it
Ah ok, cool.

Have a look at getting the emulator then, or scripting the cic
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Also. How do you virginize the cic. I've read the posts about the script but mine isn't the latest C1A firmware so it doesn't work. Is there another way
Im not sure that you can use the self signed in the small cic. but it would need to be running c1a (so you would need to flash the cic using an icom to the latest version

You should be able to script or emulate though.
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Hi I have a CIC nav. I can get the 1b file from usb but it's a doner CIC. It doesn't produce the correct map code. I'm not sure if I have an emulator I took the system apart and couldn't see anything obvious as to an emulator.


It's been a while but I remember one of the programs used to gain FSC or 1b files it showed the vins are miss matched also stated there is an emulator. Although I can't see it on the harness.


If anyone knows what software I can use to bypass the vin and emulator be helpful.
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just a side note, i gave up on this and bought an emulator, that didn't work either so ive got nowhere
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You can always script activate. That’s what I did because my unit wasn’t on c1a firmware and I didn’t want to pay $200 to have someone update it.

But tbh I think you’re better off just installing a mmi box so you can use CarPlay or android auto. I don’t even bother with the factory cic navigation now and only use CarPlay cause it’s so much more modern and has a lot more functionality.
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are there any really foolproof instructions to follow for script activating?
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all sorted now via script activation. thanks to all that helped
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all sorted now via script activation. thanks to all that helped
Hello,
I'm dealing with the same situation. Can you help me? How do you do the script activation?

Thank you.
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I'm dealing with the same situation. Can you help me? How do you do the script activation?

Thank you.
Script activation is only needed for CIC not on the latest firmware. If you are on C1A google CIC patcher.
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