Track Pad Reccomendation with Rattle Clip

rallycobra · 07-14-2019, 04:47 PM

I have PFC 06 pads in the front and PFC 11 in the rear. In the summer months I run the track pads on the street when I'm going to HPDE events. The fronts are obnoxiously loud since there are no clips and every time I hit a bump in the road they rattle and scare pedestrians.

What endurance track pads have rattle clips for a 2008 M3? Pagid RSL29? Hawk DTC-70? Carbotech XP12? CL RC6E?

Thanks in advance!

r4dr · 07-17-2019, 10:22 PM

Your primary concern with track pads and the reason you want to switch from PFC is that they rattle on the street?

Am I reading this right?

bbnks2 · 07-18-2019, 07:50 AM

uhm why didn't you swap over the stock backing plates? This is why people burn up dust boots too... you need to carry over the stock backing plate since PFC don't come with one.

paddock__club · 07-22-2019, 07:37 AM

Something to consider when your picking a track pad is the potential brake torque possible with that pad. It's easy to buy a track pad that has enough brake torque to easily overwhelm a 200 treadwear tire with modest brake pressures. You'll be getting into the ABS very easily and will have less success steering the car using subtle brake inputs. Braking is a big part of turning on a track. You want a pad that is going to modulate well.

I've used HAWK pads on my track E90 with good success. However, if you have some cash to play with I would suggest calling the importers for Endless. I have heard more and more people suggesting them for quiet, effortless street and track use. I've called for a basic consultation and was surprised by the high level of technical support. Might be worth a shot.

rallycobra · 07-22-2019, 07:33 PM

Yup. My track pads rattle on the street. In the summer I commute to and from work with 275 RE71's on all four corners and track pads. Occasionally I find time to catch an HPDE on the weekend.

Neither my stock or track pads have 'removable backing plates'. Any dust boots on a stock caliper will get cooked. There is no kind of titanium shim that is going to prevent that.

I don't have trouble modulating the brakes with track pads. The purpose of a track pad is to be able to handle the temperature range at the track, not to generate more brake torque. I'll cook hybrid street/track pads in less than a day. E92 M3 is heavy, and there is not enough brake cooling.

Not a big deal, I was just wondering if anyone had RSL19 or Hawk DTC-70 pads for this application. It looks like they have anti rattle clips

https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-M3.../Braking/Pads/

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rallycobra Private First Class 14 Rep 135 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central NJ iTrader: (1)	Track Pad Reccomendation with Rattle Clip I have PFC 06 pads in the front and PFC 11 in the rear. In the summer months I run the track pads on the street when I'm going to HPDE events. The fronts are obnoxiously loud since there are no clips and every time I hit a bump in the road they rattle and scare pedestrians. What endurance track pads have rattle clips for a 2008 M3? Pagid RSL29? Hawk DTC-70? Carbotech XP12? CL RC6E? Thanks in advance!
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r4dr First Lieutenant 172 Rep 392 Posts Drives: various BMWs Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (0)	Your primary concern with track pads and the reason you want to switch from PFC is that they rattle on the street? Am I reading this right?
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bbnks2 Colonel 1207 Rep 2,026 Posts Drives: 135i N55 Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	uhm why didn't you swap over the stock backing plates? This is why people burn up dust boots too... you need to carry over the stock backing plate since PFC don't come with one.
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paddock__club Registered 3 Rep 3 Posts Drives: BMW M3 E36, BMW X5 Diesel e70 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Beacon NY iTrader: (0)	Something to consider when your picking a track pad is the potential brake torque possible with that pad. It's easy to buy a track pad that has enough brake torque to easily overwhelm a 200 treadwear tire with modest brake pressures. You'll be getting into the ABS very easily and will have less success steering the car using subtle brake inputs. Braking is a big part of turning on a track. You want a pad that is going to modulate well. I've used HAWK pads on my track E90 with good success. However, if you have some cash to play with I would suggest calling the importers for Endless. I have heard more and more people suggesting them for quiet, effortless street and track use. I've called for a basic consultation and was surprised by the high level of technical support. Might be worth a shot.
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rallycobra Private First Class 14 Rep 135 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central NJ iTrader: (1)	Yup. My track pads rattle on the street. In the summer I commute to and from work with 275 RE71's on all four corners and track pads. Occasionally I find time to catch an HPDE on the weekend. Neither my stock or track pads have 'removable backing plates'. Any dust boots on a stock caliper will get cooked. There is no kind of titanium shim that is going to prevent that. I don't have trouble modulating the brakes with track pads. The purpose of a track pad is to be able to handle the temperature range at the track, not to generate more brake torque. I'll cook hybrid street/track pads in less than a day. E92 M3 is heavy, and there is not enough brake cooling. Not a big deal, I was just wondering if anyone had RSL19 or Hawk DTC-70 pads for this application. It looks like they have anti rattle clips https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-M3.../Braking/Pads/
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