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      04-05-2010, 05:00 PM   #1
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So I've been bringing my car in to two different dealerships for rough idling on cold start and after the engine is warm. The dealerships have both told me that the rough idling is within spec and that it is similar to other 328i's. I have taken it in about 5-6times for this issue already. 49,6xxmiles on the car. Please let me know what your thoughts are on this.

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bump... please help!
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I do have a rough idle sometimes but it's very minor and it's beed doing it since it was new. It goes away after a few seconds. It doesn't seem have an effect on anything.
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I'm having the same issue in my 335, it started after my spark plugs were replaced. Two dealers told me it's normal.

Search for "seafoam" I'm going to try using it to clean my valves this weekend.
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I had rough idle in my 330xi which led to stalling, took it to two different dealers who both told me it was bad gas. The second dealer provided a gas analysis showing 15% alcohol in the gas. Switched gas stations (3 tanks ago) and so far no stalling and the idle has improved.
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couple others cleared this up with a new airfilter (not the microfilter), fuel injector cleaner and MAF sensor cleaner.
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I'm having the same issue in my 335, it started after my spark plugs were replaced. Two dealers told me it's normal.

Search for "seafoam" I'm going to try using it to clean my valves this weekend.
i have heard great things about seafoam and some horror stories. search.
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Hi everyone,

So I've been bringing my car in to two different dealerships for rough idling on cold start and after the engine is warm. The dealerships have both told me that the rough idling is within spec and that it is similar to other 328i's. I have taken it in about 5-6times for this issue already. 49,6xxmiles on the car. Please let me know what your thoughts are on this.

Thanks!
I had the same problem. Fixed it by pouring Chevron Techron fuel injector cleaner in the gas tank. My theory is that the e90 does not have a user friendly way of replacing the fuel filter (it is integrated with the fuel pump and costs over $240 to replace) therefore dirty fuel is fouling up the injectors. Good luck and post an update.

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Here are some other suggestions

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=1#post7371785
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Fyi, autozone is having a sale. Chevron Techron, buy 1 get 1 free
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Hi everyone,

So I've been bringing my car in to two different dealerships for rough idling on cold start and after the engine is warm. The dealerships have both told me that the rough idling is within spec and that it is similar to other 328i's. I have taken it in about 5-6times for this issue already. 49,6xxmiles on the car. Please let me know what your thoughts are on this.

Thanks!
haha, I'm sure they'll find the problem once you go out of warranty.
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^ boy that is sooooo true. I would bring it back after the warranty expires (maybe take it to another dealer before the warranty expires) and then they will tell you that you need all your injectors replaced. I would then whip out all my past complaints and see if they will repair it for free. If not, I would ask to see the general manager and then take it up with BMW NA.
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i had the same problem. After i took it in two times before warranty was up. Said everything was good. Now that I am out of warranty today the belt tensioner bolt head was broken off. the belt was loose thats why it was riding rough this should be interesting come Monday.
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I have been having a similar problem (2007 335i), but only on cold start ups usually in the morning or when i'm leaving work after a long day (problem is exagerrated when i start the car when it is parked in a front down angled position in the lot. At first if i gave it a little gas, the problem would just go away. Then one day i let it continue to idle by itself and eventually a engine malfunction light came on. It said engine malfunction, reduced power. Drive with caution and take it to the dealership. I then powered off the car and powered it back on an the problem went away.

I have about 33k miles on it and have taken it to the dealer 3 times now. First time they replaced the fuel pump and reprogrammed the car. Then it happened again, and they said the reprogramming can sometimes cause that and they had to replace a sensor. Now it happened again, coincidentally on the day i had the appointment as i was getting ready to go to the dealership. So this time instead of turning it off and restarting it, I kept it like that and drove it there with the malfunction light on. There was a big difference in driving it, I had no power to accelerate fast at any speed. They are saying it is probably the fuel pump and will check it out, but to me it seemed as if the turbo didn't kick in.

We'll see what they say about this.
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I wouldn't worry about rough idle @ cold start on N52's. My 330i had this but I haven't noticed it lately.

It would do a "brm brm brm brm brm brm and (then a normal) brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I started using shell 93 octane fuel and maybe that helped get rid of it.

BTW I'm at 77k mi.

Funk74, yours seems to be the HPFP.
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I have been having a similar problem (2007 335i), but only on cold start ups usually in the morning or when i'm leaving work after a long day (problem is exagerrated when i start the car when it is parked in a front down angled position in the lot. At first if i gave it a little gas, the problem would just go away. Then one day i let it continue to idle by itself and eventually a engine malfunction light came on. It said engine malfunction, reduced power. Drive with caution and take it to the dealership. I then powered off the car and powered it back on an the problem went away.

I have about 33k miles on it and have taken it to the dealer 3 times now. First time they replaced the fuel pump and reprogrammed the car. Then it happened again, and they said the reprogramming can sometimes cause that and they had to replace a sensor. Now it happened again, coincidentally on the day i had the appointment as i was getting ready to go to the dealership. So this time instead of turning it off and restarting it, I kept it like that and drove it there with the malfunction light on. There was a big difference in driving it, I had no power to accelerate fast at any speed. They are saying it is probably the fuel pump and will check it out, but to me it seemed as if the turbo didn't kick in.

We'll see what they say about this.
Please give an update on your 335i. I experienced the same issues. Did you take it in? Thank you!
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Alright! I just picked up my e92 335i equiped with a new HPFP. Thanks BMWNA!
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